So, I signed up and started playing a bit. I'm under the name Xachariah.
Does anyone know if two swords actually gives you anything, or do people just have a second one in case the first overheats? On the same note, does double spears work the same way?
Spears never overheat. Never, ever. So don't try dual wielding them. Swords, however, I'm starting to believe there's merit to. How much is that damn shield really helping me?
Seriously, that Apogee-C thing is bullshit. I couldn't even find it in the weapon shop. It is obviously some sort of mythical beast.
Anyone got any plans for where they're spending their points?
Cheers for the matches Lanson, bottling them up in that little canyon in the training level was awesome. I'll get a set of replicators and I'll return the favor.
I went 15/1 in the match from the heals, once I can heal you back we'll be set.
Also, Rifles are awesome.
Edit: Thor, I picked up a new booster and set of arms and it makes a world of difference. Unless you're talking about some level up thing. I have no idea what gaining levels gives me yet.
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Edit: Thor, I picked up a new booster and set of arms and it makes a world of difference. Unless you're talking about some level up thing. I have no idea what gaining levels gives me yet.
Click the "Pilot Info" button and you can spend your level up points on things like health, accuracy, speed etc.
I put my first points into HP - a small bonus, yeah, but as I play more, my plan is to shift to Heavy parts - I don't have the credits to jump to that JUST YET, but I'd be stacking the HP bonus on top of the part bonuses, as well.
Meh. I want to try out healing, but I don't want to spend the credits to get the rectifiers.
I want new mech pieces. We should also look into getting a PA color scheme going on for that 'Hey look at those kickass guys in Pink and Purple mechs' comments.
I'm already rolling with purple and red, so obviously I'm down with that since it means less work on my part.
Mind posting a shot? I messed around with it a bit but couldn't come up with anything I liked. Getting a good colour for the legs was what was giving me the most trouble.
I'm going to ask for some advice people. Thinking-caps at the ready!
So as some of you guys know, I've been playing this game for a couple of days now, rolling with the PA guys, but I think my game could be a lot better. I'm frequently getting very low ranking in games and I wondering if I either need to go a new route with my loadout or else perservere and hope that once I get all the kit I need my bull-headedness will pay off.
I'm using an SMG/Rifle combo for my primary weapons, and for my secondary I haven't decided, as I almost never, ever need to swap out. SMG/Rifle combos seem like they have potential, but they require a lot of thought in how you play. You can either lead an attack with rifle rounds, wait til the enemy notices and closes in on you and surprise them with the SMG, or there's actually a sweet spot where both weapons are in range at the same time, a sort of middling ground. You can really hurt people here, but then overheating should be controlled. The weakness to this is that in tight quarters you are fucked. If you get surrounded, you are fucked. The best position is normally in team situations where teammates can crowd control with melee at the front and you can be in the middle ground and pick off targets with a rifle and finish up anyone close range with SMGs if they break forward defense. However, I have several times defeated SMG and melee players in one on one duels because I'm a boost heavy motherfucker who can backpedal and strafe like no one's business and eventually win out through attrition. I can't win on all out firepower and I need to be quick.
On that note, I got a new booster which is the one with the built in power supply for prolonged boosting. It makes a huge difference to EN consumption but I've not had the chance to really try it out in battle yet. I also got a Marauder instead of the ol' Marauder C's, and whilst I'm noticing slightly more damage, it's not really enough. I'm thinking maybe one of those stunning rifles is the way to go next time.
As for mechnaught, I'm trying to not rely on the panacea of a new suit making a huge difference to my game. If I can get by in a Pinkett that means that my skills are there, and any stat boost on top is only going to be a boon. I feel like I'm holding my own in face of the odds, but I still come short. I'm thinking about getting the Rushnik mechnaught so that I can be really nippy, outflank enemies more often and get into my ideal firing range faster and stay there. My other choice was the Trooper, but it doesn't really seem to offer much in the stats area over the Pinkett, apart from some general improvements but nothing special. I'm not sure how much more protected I'd be with it over the Rushnik.
As for pilot stats, I've so far just dropped everything into speed and aiming. The aiming takes a while to build up but makes a difference, or at least it seemed to at first. Speed is always noticable. I don't plan on dropping points into anything else. It seems pointless (no pun intended).
Maybe I should pick up a rocket launcher secondary for those close-nit battles? Seems pretty effective if you can blast and run.
Suggestions are most welcome. Sorry it's such an essay.
I'm already rolling with purple and red, so obviously I'm down with that since it means less work on my part.
Mind posting a shot? I messed around with it a bit but couldn't come up with anything I liked. Getting a good colour for the legs was what was giving me the most trouble.
Well to be honest it's really easy for me since I'm rocking a combination of Stark core and arms, Boom legs, Stallion head and a Tomahawk booster. All of these have a healthy amount of red as a secondary colour on them already, which means I just needed to find a shade of purple I was happy with and viola, complete colour scheme with the minimum of work. Hell I even dropped NCoin on the annihilator blades because of the red energy finish on them being more suitable to compliment the paint job. Same goes for dropping coin on the red finished Planet Eagles.
Here it is:
To be fair it's not the best angle for the pic sicne you don't get to see all of the red trim, however it is there. So far it's the most acceptable paint job I have found since trying to mix and match different limb colours just always seems to turn out really imbalanced and very vulgar--which sometimes is nice, and will probably be how I go with my next mecha. However I wanted something more aesthetically pleasing with the first.
Cheers for the matches Lanson, bottling them up in that little canyon in the training level was awesome. I'll get a set of replicators and I'll return the favor.
I went 15/1 in the match from the heals, once I can heal you back we'll be set.
Also, Rifles are awesome.
Edit: Thor, I picked up a new booster and set of arms and it makes a world of difference. Unless you're talking about some level up thing. I have no idea what gaining levels gives me yet.
It's what I do man. Just having one healer on a team can make the difference in TDM matches.
Alright, I am breaking down since I haven't really heard any cries of imbalance. I'll be on in about 5 minutes when the download finishes. Hope to see some people in the PA channel!
Right now I've been rocking out a pair of Rifles, just the basic ones at the moment since they get the job done as my primary weapons, then a healing gun and shield as the second set.
And Runwiled, you can definately get by in a Pinkett, I've been using one since I started out last night and they're great if you like to run around the edges of a fight picking people off. The only thing I found that needed improving was the booster pack for better energy lasting power and a new set of arms to reduce the cooldown if your weapons overheat. You said you've upgraded the booster, so I'd just grab the arms and you should be good.
Alright, I am breaking down since I haven't really heard any cries of imbalance. I'll be on in about 5 minutes when the download finishes. Hope to see some people in the PA channel!
Actually, I have some problems fighting people with rockets, but that may just be me. Still, fuck rockets.
Alright, I am breaking down since I haven't really heard any cries of imbalance. I'll be on in about 5 minutes when the download finishes. Hope to see some people in the PA channel!
Actually, I have some problems fighting people with rockets, but that may just be me. Still, fuck rockets.
Really? As a rocket user myself, I have problems with people using SMG's/Melee running right up to me.
Long Range Rocket Secondary with dual blade primary. Since your speed is based on your currently equipped weapon, the really light beam swords let me get into and out of combat quickly. Plus, it doesn't hurt to have something to deal with people who get in close.
Edit: P.S. I uninstalled this game but you guys have all dragged me back in. You better be able to live with that on your conscience.
Alright, I am breaking down since I haven't really heard any cries of imbalance. I'll be on in about 5 minutes when the download finishes. Hope to see some people in the PA channel!
Actually, I have some problems fighting people with rockets, but that may just be me. Still, fuck rockets.
Really? As a rocket user myself, I have problems with people using SMG's/Melee running right up to me.
Long Range Rocket Secondary with dual blade primary. Since your speed is based on your currently equipped weapon, the really light beam swords let me get into and out of combat quickly. Plus, it doesn't hurt to have something to deal with people who get in close.
Edit: P.S. I uninstalled this game but you guys have all dragged me back in. You better be able to live with that on your conscience.
Well, the only solution, as my cannon's too slow comparitively, is to whip out my sword/shield and bumrush them. Unfortunately, they have rockets. They can hit me as I fly/weave/dodge towards them. Meaning I lose like 3/4 of my hp on the way there, if they're good.
I'm not super pro or anything so these are just my suggestions. Doing SMG+Rifle is versatile but it also means you never have the upper hand. With dual-SMG, you can rush rifle and heavy weapon users to get in closer than their minimum range while staying out of the range of melee users, whereas with dual-Rifles you can try to out range SMG and melee users. With a combination you can't really take advantage of these properties as easily. You really should use your secondary slot too, with my dual-rifle primary I have SMG/sword secondary for when I'm fighting in small spaces and can't get the range (like in tunnels or underground) or for when I want to ambush another rifle user.
As for mech parts, I have a full suit of Rushnik, other than the head (bought them individually without realizing) and while it is a nice speed boost, it ends up being a little harder to control due to needing more time to decelerate from boosting.
I'm not super pro or anything so these are just my suggestions. Doing SMG+Rifle is versatile but it also means you never have the upper hand.
This. Your secondary weapons completely change your playstyle and abilities.
For example, I usually run Lance/Shield as my primary with either Double Healguns or a siege weapon as secondary. Healguns mean that I typically stick behind the team healing them up as they close to the enemy, then crash into the front with a lance once the fight has gone to point blank range; once the combat is joined, I spend most of my time on the front trying to be as big a threat as possible. With a siege weapon, I mostly go independent and use the speed of the lance to get in position; should anyone manage to close with me, I can just switch and start meleeing them.
Now, suppose I just do a small switch and change to Lance/Shotgun instead. It means when I've got healguns, I should instead be working anti-melee (since shotguns stun and disrupt). And when I've gone siege, I can't jet around as fast and I can't just switch weapons when someone gets on me because shotguns drain energy when you switch while shields don't. On the other hand, it's a superior loadout for trying to defend a flag or defend a point.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you've got to look at all four weapons together as an aggregate.
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edited March 2008
Yeah, I'm looking to get some healing guns. Is it better to double up or should I got shield/heal?
And how would you guys say an SMG/Sword combo fairs since that's my primary?
I'd recommend using 2 healguns just because when you're healing someone, you're either in combat and the heal beam is painting a giant target on them so you want it doing as much as possible, or you're behind the combat line and just want it finished as quickly as possible so they can rejoin the combat.
I like SMG/sword, its somewhat versatile but still focused on closing range, alternately SMG can be swapped for shotgun and/or sword for lance. I saw an interesting combo of lance and stun rifle yesterday, seemed like it has potential.
and I know its just me and the server that have issues because it totally lags it up during the training. Basically there are long perioids of time I am unable to fire (this is not due to overheating...) or swap guns, and during that time most my movement will be undone when the lag spike is over.
anyone experience anything like this? does anyone have any solutions. the only funky thing going on with my internet was that I dedicated a lot of ports to my wii...think opening these ports back up would help?
and I know its just me and the server that have issues because it totally lags it up during the training. Basically there are long perioids of time I am unable to fire (this is not due to overheating...) or swap guns, and during that time most my movement will be undone when the lag spike is over.
anyone experience anything like this? does anyone have any solutions. the only funky thing going on with my internet was that I dedicated a lot of ports to my wii...think opening these ports back up would help?
Yeah, I generally have about 70 ping but I'd say every 2 outta 3 games I'll run around killing mans for 30 seconds, then lag out for for 10. Unfreeze to see my mech is dead and repeat until it boots me out of the server and I get no points.
In that facet it does hold true the to the gunz comparison quite well
Awesome games earlier guys. Lanson, if I seem to be trying to shoot you on purpose, its only because I you.
I'm so badly tempted to go to twin SMGs but I like my rifles too much to part. I think it's time to upgrade though.
Yeah, I was gunning for you. Healers on the other team always make me angry.
To the other guys. I roll with dual smg's main and rifle/medgun secondary. The rifle I end up using is the one that slows mech dash movement. It's good to use while escaping.
I like SMG/sword, its somewhat versatile but still focused on closing range, alternately SMG can be swapped for shotgun and/or sword for lance. I saw an interesting combo of lance and stun rifle yesterday, seemed like it has potential.
I run lance/shotgun and it works very well. I use the stun shotgun (hellgun, I believe) so it probably works out similar to the stunrifle only more close range oriented. Fire a shot, it stutters the enemy, then you spear em'.
melee/ranged, i find, really only works well in team battles. Team DM or CTF or something.
Normal DM or Last Stands, splitting your damage up like that is a death sentence. If you're at range you can only do half the damage as your opponent, assuming they're dual wielding, and in melee a lot of swords and stuff overhead quickly and if you only have one you'll likely not get a chance to take them down.
Also, vultures are pretty standard in FFA games, you might think you're duking it out with someone but there's usually a guy with a rocket sitting back and waiting to pick the two of you off.
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Does anyone know if two swords actually gives you anything, or do people just have a second one in case the first overheats? On the same note, does double spears work the same way?
At least, that's how I roll.
Seriously, that Apogee-C thing is bullshit. I couldn't even find it in the weapon shop. It is obviously some sort of mythical beast.
Anyone got any plans for where they're spending their points?
I went 15/1 in the match from the heals, once I can heal you back we'll be set.
Also, Rifles are awesome.
Edit: Thor, I picked up a new booster and set of arms and it makes a world of difference. Unless you're talking about some level up thing. I have no idea what gaining levels gives me yet.
Click the "Pilot Info" button and you can spend your level up points on things like health, accuracy, speed etc.
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I want new mech pieces. We should also look into getting a PA color scheme going on for that 'Hey look at those kickass guys in Pink and Purple mechs' comments.
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But it could use more mech parts.
Also more classes of weapons. Two-handed swords and spears? Miniguns?
Also remove the whole repair system, that's just balls.
Also more / larger levels.
Also add the ability to pick an alternate mode and transform into it.
Basically every time I play a game with giant robots I mentally map out how far away it is from becoming a totally awesome Transformers game.
I'm up for this. I already blew a bunch of money on paint to mess around with colour schemes.
But bitches complained so we went with grey and blue
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Speed points are pretty noticable.
Mind posting a shot? I messed around with it a bit but couldn't come up with anything I liked. Getting a good colour for the legs was what was giving me the most trouble.
Red/Purple:
Red/Blue Version 1:
Red/Blue Version 2:
So as some of you guys know, I've been playing this game for a couple of days now, rolling with the PA guys, but I think my game could be a lot better. I'm frequently getting very low ranking in games and I wondering if I either need to go a new route with my loadout or else perservere and hope that once I get all the kit I need my bull-headedness will pay off.
I'm using an SMG/Rifle combo for my primary weapons, and for my secondary I haven't decided, as I almost never, ever need to swap out. SMG/Rifle combos seem like they have potential, but they require a lot of thought in how you play. You can either lead an attack with rifle rounds, wait til the enemy notices and closes in on you and surprise them with the SMG, or there's actually a sweet spot where both weapons are in range at the same time, a sort of middling ground. You can really hurt people here, but then overheating should be controlled. The weakness to this is that in tight quarters you are fucked. If you get surrounded, you are fucked. The best position is normally in team situations where teammates can crowd control with melee at the front and you can be in the middle ground and pick off targets with a rifle and finish up anyone close range with SMGs if they break forward defense. However, I have several times defeated SMG and melee players in one on one duels because I'm a boost heavy motherfucker who can backpedal and strafe like no one's business and eventually win out through attrition. I can't win on all out firepower and I need to be quick.
On that note, I got a new booster which is the one with the built in power supply for prolonged boosting. It makes a huge difference to EN consumption but I've not had the chance to really try it out in battle yet. I also got a Marauder instead of the ol' Marauder C's, and whilst I'm noticing slightly more damage, it's not really enough. I'm thinking maybe one of those stunning rifles is the way to go next time.
As for mechnaught, I'm trying to not rely on the panacea of a new suit making a huge difference to my game. If I can get by in a Pinkett that means that my skills are there, and any stat boost on top is only going to be a boon. I feel like I'm holding my own in face of the odds, but I still come short. I'm thinking about getting the Rushnik mechnaught so that I can be really nippy, outflank enemies more often and get into my ideal firing range faster and stay there. My other choice was the Trooper, but it doesn't really seem to offer much in the stats area over the Pinkett, apart from some general improvements but nothing special. I'm not sure how much more protected I'd be with it over the Rushnik.
As for pilot stats, I've so far just dropped everything into speed and aiming. The aiming takes a while to build up but makes a difference, or at least it seemed to at first. Speed is always noticable. I don't plan on dropping points into anything else. It seems pointless (no pun intended).
Maybe I should pick up a rocket launcher secondary for those close-nit battles? Seems pretty effective if you can blast and run.
Suggestions are most welcome. Sorry it's such an essay.
Well to be honest it's really easy for me since I'm rocking a combination of Stark core and arms, Boom legs, Stallion head and a Tomahawk booster. All of these have a healthy amount of red as a secondary colour on them already, which means I just needed to find a shade of purple I was happy with and viola, complete colour scheme with the minimum of work. Hell I even dropped NCoin on the annihilator blades because of the red energy finish on them being more suitable to compliment the paint job. Same goes for dropping coin on the red finished Planet Eagles.
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It's what I do man. Just having one healer on a team can make the difference in TDM matches.
And Runwiled, you can definately get by in a Pinkett, I've been using one since I started out last night and they're great if you like to run around the edges of a fight picking people off. The only thing I found that needed improving was the booster pack for better energy lasting power and a new set of arms to reduce the cooldown if your weapons overheat. You said you've upgraded the booster, so I'd just grab the arms and you should be good.
Actually, I have some problems fighting people with rockets, but that may just be me. Still, fuck rockets.
Really? As a rocket user myself, I have problems with people using SMG's/Melee running right up to me.
Long Range Rocket Secondary with dual blade primary. Since your speed is based on your currently equipped weapon, the really light beam swords let me get into and out of combat quickly. Plus, it doesn't hurt to have something to deal with people who get in close.
Edit: P.S. I uninstalled this game but you guys have all dragged me back in. You better be able to live with that on your conscience.
Well, the only solution, as my cannon's too slow comparitively, is to whip out my sword/shield and bumrush them. Unfortunately, they have rockets. They can hit me as I fly/weave/dodge towards them. Meaning I lose like 3/4 of my hp on the way there, if they're good.
I'm not super pro or anything so these are just my suggestions. Doing SMG+Rifle is versatile but it also means you never have the upper hand. With dual-SMG, you can rush rifle and heavy weapon users to get in closer than their minimum range while staying out of the range of melee users, whereas with dual-Rifles you can try to out range SMG and melee users. With a combination you can't really take advantage of these properties as easily. You really should use your secondary slot too, with my dual-rifle primary I have SMG/sword secondary for when I'm fighting in small spaces and can't get the range (like in tunnels or underground) or for when I want to ambush another rifle user.
As for mech parts, I have a full suit of Rushnik, other than the head (bought them individually without realizing) and while it is a nice speed boost, it ends up being a little harder to control due to needing more time to decelerate from boosting.
This. Your secondary weapons completely change your playstyle and abilities.
For example, I usually run Lance/Shield as my primary with either Double Healguns or a siege weapon as secondary. Healguns mean that I typically stick behind the team healing them up as they close to the enemy, then crash into the front with a lance once the fight has gone to point blank range; once the combat is joined, I spend most of my time on the front trying to be as big a threat as possible. With a siege weapon, I mostly go independent and use the speed of the lance to get in position; should anyone manage to close with me, I can just switch and start meleeing them.
Now, suppose I just do a small switch and change to Lance/Shotgun instead. It means when I've got healguns, I should instead be working anti-melee (since shotguns stun and disrupt). And when I've gone siege, I can't jet around as fast and I can't just switch weapons when someone gets on me because shotguns drain energy when you switch while shields don't. On the other hand, it's a superior loadout for trying to defend a flag or defend a point.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that you've got to look at all four weapons together as an aggregate.
And how would you guys say an SMG/Sword combo fairs since that's my primary?
I like SMG/sword, its somewhat versatile but still focused on closing range, alternately SMG can be swapped for shotgun and/or sword for lance. I saw an interesting combo of lance and stun rifle yesterday, seemed like it has potential.
and I know its just me and the server that have issues because it totally lags it up during the training. Basically there are long perioids of time I am unable to fire (this is not due to overheating...) or swap guns, and during that time most my movement will be undone when the lag spike is over.
anyone experience anything like this? does anyone have any solutions. the only funky thing going on with my internet was that I dedicated a lot of ports to my wii...think opening these ports back up would help?
Yeah, I generally have about 70 ping but I'd say every 2 outta 3 games I'll run around killing mans for 30 seconds, then lag out for for 10. Unfreeze to see my mech is dead and repeat until it boots me out of the server and I get no points.
In that facet it does hold true the to the gunz comparison quite well
I'm so badly tempted to go to twin SMGs but I like my rifles too much to part. I think it's time to upgrade though.
Yeah, I was gunning for you. Healers on the other team always make me angry.
To the other guys. I roll with dual smg's main and rifle/medgun secondary. The rifle I end up using is the one that slows mech dash movement. It's good to use while escaping.
I run lance/shotgun and it works very well. I use the stun shotgun (hellgun, I believe) so it probably works out similar to the stunrifle only more close range oriented. Fire a shot, it stutters the enemy, then you spear em'.
Normal DM or Last Stands, splitting your damage up like that is a death sentence. If you're at range you can only do half the damage as your opponent, assuming they're dual wielding, and in melee a lot of swords and stuff overhead quickly and if you only have one you'll likely not get a chance to take them down.
Also, vultures are pretty standard in FFA games, you might think you're duking it out with someone but there's usually a guy with a rocket sitting back and waiting to pick the two of you off.
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For the skill of barriage and some of the other skills, yes.