so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You learn to differentiate "cheese" from "better than me," and/or realize that whatever they're doing is a crappy tactic and learn the counter.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
oh yeah I know, I was talking about the tether recovery characters.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
all olimar can do is throw a purple pikmin, which means having whistle set up at all times to queue purple next, and have aim to throw a purple at someone edge guarding, and hoping you have enough pikmin left and close enough to tether.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
And that's exactly what can get easily edgehog'd. If they roll over the edge as you dash at it, you'll still swing (and fall to your death) and they will be unharmed.
Of course, under a lot of situations you can just go well over the edge.
so what do you guys do when every single person you play with uses extreme cheese to win and is the super leat supreme ruler of brawl because of said cheese?
You should give some examples of these ultimate techniques so I may beat people with them if I am not already doing so.
Probably just edgehogging or something silly like that.
I have to say, while I hated it in melee (because captain falcon and ganondorf couldn't do anything even if said person wasn't invulnerable), it is beyond legit in Brawl considering the auto sweet spotting in addition to all characters damaging you with their recovery move.
Yeah, really. Though it still really hurts some characters. Namely anyone who relies on a tether recovery, and Ike.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
And that's exactly what can get easily edgehog'd. If they roll over the edge as you dash at it, you'll still swing (and fall to your death) and they will be unharmed.
Of course, under a lot of situations you can just go well over the edge.
You can't edgehog while rolling back onto the stage anymore though. You have to actually be hanging on the edge, which means to edgehog an attack you have to grab the edge just as they try to recover.
Using Ike's side B to get back is often your only choice but you get screwed if people just jump into you. Recovery is one of Ike's weaknesses and the same for the tether dudes and I think it is intentional.
Added; although you're in FL (and I'm in SoCal) I've had good luck with latency since going wired and am therefore willing to give it a shot. Besides, despite having 45 codes I rarely have anyone on.
Idraw also added. I just got some wifi action going in my house. I've dithced the dongle.
It's actually a lower-case L. My handle is based on a useful Lego CAD open standard (MLCAD is what I actually used to model things with when I used to be more into the hobby).
On topic: Anyone up for a game? I'm just idling online now.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
And that's exactly what can get easily edgehog'd. If they roll over the edge as you dash at it, you'll still swing (and fall to your death) and they will be unharmed.
Of course, under a lot of situations you can just go well over the edge.
You can't edgehog while rolling back onto the stage anymore though. You have to actually be hanging on the edge, which means to edgehog an attack you have to grab the edge just as they try to recover.
I'm pretty sure that Ike swings at the person who is rolling up. So instead of just grabbing the edge, he falls and dies.
Either way, I know that edgehogging is a primary cause of death for my Ike against a few of my friends.
1. Snake is absurdly awesome, but somehow having grenades, prox mines, det mines, missiles, mortar, not to mention rpg is almost overkill. almost.
Although, i can't find a good use for the 'nades
2. How do i get toon link/ pirate ship?
3. GCN controller is ace to the max, although the smash moves feel smoother, so now the c-stick almost goes unused.
i love this game.
Snake is also inticing me to go buy the collection for 30 and the PSP and games.
ugh.
Grenades are useful in FFAs, against crappier opponents, or against people who spam moves that prematurely detonate them (like PK Fire). They can also be useful to bait attacks (due to the lag/holding animation associated with them) and to discourage some forms of camping.
Pirate Ship comes with Toon Link iirc; play a set amount of matches (this is how I got him - something like 350?) or go through some door in SSE. I'm sure someone else knows more.
Switch your C-Stick to specials and practice b-sticking. Very useful for characters like Lucas (whom I've played a lot these days for some reason...kid's got style). You lose aerial control though so the value in this trade-off is character dependent.
Oh snap I can see people now. Maybe I can finally get my fight on.
I'm ready to battle now if you can/want to.
Edit: You appear offline to me. I assume this is a bad sign?
I think Nintendo's (Gamespy's) servers are still messed up. I can't connect to Improvolone, for example. I hear that earlier today they didn't allow anyone online period.
Beyond this, of course, there's always the following explanation: wifi sucks.
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You learn to differentiate "cheese" from "better than me," and/or realize that whatever they're doing is a crappy tactic and learn the counter.
that is true and it sucks for them, but I believe all those characters have a projectile attack that could help them out, also if the person messes up the timing, they all damage.
Ike doesn't have a projectile, but his side B is often a better recovery anyway, in my experience.
alright i added you. now we see.
oh yeah I know, I was talking about the tether recovery characters.
Yeah, Olimar's Up+B is a nasty spike if it reaches them. But you're still gonna die.
It's that stupid moving motherfucker on the right side. I cannot get it without fucking up somehow.
It just so happened I was close enough that I grabbed the thing anyway~ What really got me was that he was using ivysaur.
There should be a law against Ness or Lucas in the "Team X" levels. New Pork City is far too huge for that.
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And that's exactly what can get easily edgehog'd. If they roll over the edge as you dash at it, you'll still swing (and fall to your death) and they will be unharmed.
Of course, under a lot of situations you can just go well over the edge.
You can't edgehog while rolling back onto the stage anymore though. You have to actually be hanging on the edge, which means to edgehog an attack you have to grab the edge just as they try to recover.
yes I guess it was dramatic irony that I was ivysaur and thus had no chance at saving myself.
Added; although you're in FL (and I'm in SoCal) I've had good luck with latency since going wired and am therefore willing to give it a shot. Besides, despite having 45 codes I rarely have anyone on.
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
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Idraw also added. I just got some wifi action going in my house. I've dithced the dongle.
Responding to Improvolone for Brawl FCs
Well, if you aren't going for speed you can wait for it to pop up above the ice, and simply stand there and swipe it.
Unless you are talking about a different moving motherfucker on the right side that I can't think of.
It's actually a lower-case L. My handle is based on a useful Lego CAD open standard (MLCAD is what I actually used to model things with when I used to be more into the hobby).
On topic: Anyone up for a game? I'm just idling online now.
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
Either way, I know that edgehogging is a primary cause of death for my Ike against a few of my friends.
Edit: I'm hosting a game now
Interesting. I'll exit out of the game I've made; you can try making I suppose.
e: 86240 all the way out of wifi when I try to connect to you. Could this be related to Nintendo's (Gamespy's) earlier server troubles?
e2: Can you connect to other people? I just connected fine to a Basic Brawl (got to 3/4 filled and then I exited).
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman
I'm ready to battle now if you can/want to.
Edit: You appear offline to me. I assume this is a bad sign?
1. Snake is absurdly awesome, but somehow having grenades, prox mines, det mines, missiles, mortar, not to mention rpg is almost overkill. almost.
Although, i can't find a good use for the 'nades
2. How do i get toon link/ pirate ship?
3. GCN controller is ace to the max, although the smash moves feel smoother, so now the c-stick almost goes unused.
i love this game.
Snake is also inticing me to go buy the collection for 30 and the PSP and games.
ugh.
Grenades are useful in FFAs, against crappier opponents, or against people who spam moves that prematurely detonate them (like PK Fire). They can also be useful to bait attacks (due to the lag/holding animation associated with them) and to discourage some forms of camping.
Pirate Ship comes with Toon Link iirc; play a set amount of matches (this is how I got him - something like 350?) or go through some door in SSE. I'm sure someone else knows more.
Switch your C-Stick to specials and practice b-sticking. Very useful for characters like Lucas (whom I've played a lot these days for some reason...kid's got style). You lose aerial control though so the value in this trade-off is character dependent.
I think Nintendo's (Gamespy's) servers are still messed up. I can't connect to Improvolone, for example. I hear that earlier today they didn't allow anyone online period.
Beyond this, of course, there's always the following explanation: wifi sucks.
AKA: mdraw, dux, milkman