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so, I want to get an iPhone. Not with AT&T. I live in Asia but go to college in the states. I refuse to commit to a contract anywhere, because I don't want to pay for months I'm abroad or have to use different phones in different countries. Like most reasonable people, I think. Also, installer.app. Holy fucking shit.
Questions- is it really as simple as downgrading with a bundled app from appsnap before getting itunes updates? Does itunes try to automatically shove updates when it's connected?
The itunes app store. This is where a lot of the real action is going to be at. Definitely a huge part of my wanting to get it. Can I still use app store apps if I'm using the stuff you can get now?
I'm assuming there's a required update to use the app store. Rumor is that apple is working on a new brick for 9/27 that also thwarts current resurrectors, etc.
Yes, Iphone hacking is that easy. You can always count on people who hack the iphone to be one step ahead of apple as far as cracking goes. I think the appstore firmware is 1.2, which is already cracked -- and someone cracked the SDK firmware already. Seeing how there are jailbreaks and unlocks for every firmware version, I'd say go ahead and just get one and crack it now. There is a considerable difference between OTB firmware and upgraded firmware (as in OTB is usually harder to crack, takes a few more steps) but in the end it's absolutely worth it.
Use Ziphone for your unlocking. Its free and basically you just press unlock and let it run!
But sadly, does not let you select which firmware version you want. You can no longer upgrade to 1.1.3(and I can't find the firmware anywhere), you have to go straight to 1.1.4 which may or may not screw up any custom made ring-tones you've created through the iTunes workaround.
But sadly, does not let you select which firmware version you want. You can no longer upgrade to 1.1.3(and I can't find the firmware anywhere), you have to go straight to 1.1.4 which may or may not screw up any custom made ring-tones you've created through the iTunes workaround.
Hold down shift before clicking "restore" or "update" and it will let you pick any firmware image from your HDD. Copies of all of them can be found everywhere. I can also confirm that homemade ringtones work just fine on 1.1.4.
I ask this because I've interest iPhones, but a devotion to Verizon. I also have a devotion to not breaking the law; since I was under the impression it was a bad bad thing to unlock and iPhone I resigned myself to hoping the excluive contract AT&T has with Apple goes away sometime soon. If there's really no legal problems here, I'll have to look into it some.
There's hardly a point in using an iPhone without AT&T anyway. Visual Voicemail is too awesome to forget about. Also as far as this forum goes, Jailbreaking is the iPhone equivalent of a R4DS-type work around for enabling homebrew.
There's hardly a point in using an iPhone without AT&T anyway. Visual Voicemail is too awesome to forget about. Also as far as this forum goes, Jailbreaking is the iPhone equivalent of a R4DS-type work around for enabling homebrew.
My friend just got an iPhone back in Hong Kong, where there is no partnered provider. EDGE works fine for him, (has a subscription with a 3G provider) and he can connect to his own provider's (PCCW if anyone cares) citywide wifi.
I'm pretty sure he couldn't get visual voicemail to work. But I think most people just text you if they can't reach you. Voicemail is pretty cumbersome in general.
There's hardly a point in using an iPhone without AT&T anyway. Visual Voicemail is too awesome to forget about. Also as far as this forum goes, Jailbreaking is the iPhone equivalent of a R4DS-type work around for enabling homebrew.
My friend just got an iPhone back in Hong Kong, where there is no partnered provider. EDGE works fine for him, (has a subscription with a 3G provider) and he can connect to his own provider's (PCCW if anyone cares) citywide wifi.
I'm pretty sure he couldn't get visual voicemail to work. But I think most people just text you if they can't reach you. Voicemail is pretty cumbersome in general.
There's hardly a point in using an iPhone without AT&T anyway. Visual Voicemail is too awesome to forget about. Also as far as this forum goes, Jailbreaking is the iPhone equivalent of a R4DS-type work around for enabling homebrew.
My friend just got an iPhone back in Hong Kong, where there is no partnered provider. EDGE works fine for him, (has a subscription with a 3G provider) and he can connect to his own provider's (PCCW if anyone cares) citywide wifi.
I'm pretty sure he couldn't get visual voicemail to work. But I think most people just text you if they can't reach you. Voicemail is pretty cumbersome in general.
That's the point in having visual voicemail. It isn't cumbersome, and is actually really awesome. I'm able to go to voicemail that I got a week ago, with like 3 taps on the screen. Much better than dialing into voicemail, and skipping messages until you get to the correct one. Visual voicemail will only work on the ATT side, because it has something server side as well as client side. But I have been working on a visual voicemail that works with sip providers for the iPhone.
That's the point in having visual voicemail. It isn't cumbersome, and is actually really awesome. I'm able to go to voicemail that I got a week ago, with like 3 taps on the screen. Much better than dialing into voicemail, and skipping messages until you get to the correct one. Visual voicemail will only work on the ATT side, because it has something server side as well as client side. But I have been working on a visual voicemail that works with sip providers for the iPhone.
That sounds awesome. Do you know how AT&T/Apple plan to disallow voip on EDGE? I guess since they are hand-picking apps for their store, they simply won't pick any voip apps which work over EDGE, but is AT&T doing any traffic shaping on their side?
How exactly does unlocking the phone help you? Does it let you use the phone with any service provider you want, or does it make it so that you don't need a provider at all to use the phone? If the latter, how does that work?
the former. Although not literally any provider, only providers that support GSM (SIM cards)
In the US, that excludes Verizon and Sprint. Coincidentally 2 of the worst providers.
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Use Ziphone for your unlocking. Its free and basically you just press unlock and let it run!
Yes, I'm serious.
Hold down shift before clicking "restore" or "update" and it will let you pick any firmware image from your HDD. Copies of all of them can be found everywhere. I can also confirm that homemade ringtones work just fine on 1.1.4.
Here's the sweet hack you are talking about.
I ask this because I've interest iPhones, but a devotion to Verizon. I also have a devotion to not breaking the law; since I was under the impression it was a bad bad thing to unlock and iPhone I resigned myself to hoping the excluive contract AT&T has with Apple goes away sometime soon. If there's really no legal problems here, I'll have to look into it some.
My friend just got an iPhone back in Hong Kong, where there is no partnered provider. EDGE works fine for him, (has a subscription with a 3G provider) and he can connect to his own provider's (PCCW if anyone cares) citywide wifi.
I'm pretty sure he couldn't get visual voicemail to work. But I think most people just text you if they can't reach you. Voicemail is pretty cumbersome in general.
My friend just got an iPhone back in Hong Kong, where there is no partnered provider. EDGE works fine for him, (has a subscription with a 3G provider) and he can connect to his own provider's (PCCW if anyone cares) citywide wifi.
I'm pretty sure he couldn't get visual voicemail to work. But I think most people just text you if they can't reach you. Voicemail is pretty cumbersome in general.
That's the point in having visual voicemail. It isn't cumbersome, and is actually really awesome. I'm able to go to voicemail that I got a week ago, with like 3 taps on the screen. Much better than dialing into voicemail, and skipping messages until you get to the correct one. Visual voicemail will only work on the ATT side, because it has something server side as well as client side. But I have been working on a visual voicemail that works with sip providers for the iPhone.
In the US, that excludes Verizon and Sprint. Coincidentally 2 of the worst providers.