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West Coast Train Trip 2008: Communist Edition

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  • Darkblade_1Darkblade_1 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    What news on group rates?

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  • DStalefishDStalefish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I was under the impression that we'd have internet access on the train. If not, then I'm sure we can score a 360 with downloaded songs.

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    kazuo wrote: »
    eelektrik wrote: »
    Unless they changed something recently, I was under the impression that redownloading does not change the DRM in the file unless Microsoft sets it to on their end like they supposedly do when you send a console in to be repaired and they just send you a different one.

    In fact, using my gamertag on my friend's 360 to play Rock Band, i downloaded all the songs I had already purchased at home, and everything worked fine until their internet went out and I couldn't play any of the songs I had purchased on my console.

    From what I've read, If you send your console to M$ and they send a new one to replace it, the DRM will be busted and you will be unable to access any marketplace content if you are offline (read: not connected to XBL).

    So, if you're planning to play XBL Arcade games or access DLC, and you purchased the DLC/software previous to having your console repaired, it ain't gonna happen on the train.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I had my console replaced once already (I just sent it in again this week, ugh), and I always use my XBL gamertag to play, so I have no idea if this is accurate or not. I've seen plenty of threads bitching about it on other forums, though.

    Its the same as trying to play it on someone elses console, since its tied to a different serial number so it has to be online to make sure you aren't trying to play it from multiple places.

    However with a replacement console, they set the content to renew the DRM when you next redownload it. I'm under the impression that this is something Microsoft has to do on their end, and if they didn't with yours then its worth calling them up to get it fixed.

    I just tested it with mine as I got mine back in January and had never gotten around to redownloading the old stuff. Geometry Wars wouldn't work while offline as expected since it was an old download on the HD from when I had my original 360. Connected to live, deleted and redownloaded, and its playable offline again.

    But normally redownloading doesn't renew the DRM, as far as I'm aware. It certainly didn't in the case of using my gamertag on a memory card on my friend's 360 to download my Rock Band DLC again on his box. It ceased to work when offline, something that will happen regularly on the train if one was to bring just their hard drive and put it in another 360.

    Basically the whole point is, whoever is bringing the 360, needs to be the one with the DLC. Otherwise its not going to work for the train if we want to have access to more songs.
    DStalefish wrote: »
    I was under the impression that we'd have internet access on the train. If not, then I'm sure we can score a 360 with downloaded songs.

    Yeah, there should be internet access, but if its like last year, we won't have it the whole trip. There are pockets through the train ride where there just isn't any access via whatever we were using last year, so you can't count on it being up the whole time.

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  • Eco-MonoEco-Mono Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    kazuo wrote: »
    So, if you're planning to play XBL Arcade games or access DLC, and you purchased the DLC/software previous to having your console repaired, it ain't gonna happen on the train.

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I had my console replaced once already (I just sent it in again this week, ugh), and I always use my XBL gamertag to play, so I have no idea if this is accurate or not. I've seen plenty of threads bitching about it on other forums, though.
    We're probably going to have internet on the train, if that helps.

    EDIT: Sarnath'd.

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  • AugustusAugustus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    No news yet on group rates, sorry. Update on group rates Monday, MONDAY, MONDAY! YOU PAID FOR THE SEAT BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    According to wikipedia:

    Recently, Union Pacific has been giving Amtrak priority on its tracks. The Coast Starlight has been relatively on time and early since mid-August 2007.

    Was the train on time last year?

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    According to wikipedia:

    Recently, Union Pacific has been giving Amtrak priority on its tracks. The Coast Starlight has been relatively on time and early since mid-August 2007.

    Was the train on time last year?

    The way up might of been. The way back down was like 2-3 delay of them letting other trains pass us so they don't get delayed and driving off when handicapped people were in the middle of boarding and having to go back and get them. Gave us some more party time but we were tired when we finally got off in L.A.

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  • Dee KaeDee Kae Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well... there was that delay caused by that nude guy taking a stroll in the wilderness somewhere in oregon.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Augustus wrote: »
    No news yet on group rates, sorry. Update on group rates Monday, MONDAY, MONDAY! YOU PAID FOR THE SEAT BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE

    I'm about ready to fall off the edge! The suspense is killing me!

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm telling my uncle to board in Dunsmuir, CA at 5:04 am on 28-AUG-08. I hope that's correct.

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  • Victor15bVictor15b Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Me, plus 2 and possibly one more will be boarding at LAX.

    This will be a great opportunity to re-kindle my love for tabletop games,

    The WOW Board Game caught my attention. Anyone care to throw down?

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  • Foxy_RoxyFoxy_Roxy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Uh guys, we aren't gonna be on the train. We decided to go with the cheaper drive. Long live Freedom!

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  • DStalefishDStalefish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Fine, we didn't want you hogging up all the fun anyway.

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    also you smell and we hate you

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  • Dee KaeDee Kae Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    For that, I'll bring cake, and we'll have cake, and all the people who didn't come won't have cake and we'll even take pictures of us eating the cake and enjoying the cake too.

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  • DStalefishDStalefish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    That's a lie, and you know it.

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  • AugustusAugustus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm on the phone with Amtrak now. Sorry I didn't get ahold of them yesterday, I was busy. Update in 30 mins.
    Edit 1: Updated roster. Main track line is at 69 people. We're about to break the 70 mark. Removed Foxy. Damn shame.

    Edit 2: God damn it. Someone lost our paperwork. I just re-set up our convention stuff with Amtrak. Should get a call back soon.

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  • Victor15bVictor15b Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Augustus wrote: »
    I just re-set up our convention stuff with Amtrak. Should get a call back soon.

    Convention stuff?
    Is there gonna a PAX car or something?

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  • DStalefishDStalefish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    If all goes according to plan, yes. We're hoping to get the old kiddie car for ourselves.

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  • Dee KaeDee Kae Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    DStalefish wrote: »
    That's a lie, and you know it.

    Do I have to buy a cake to prove you wrong? I don't even know if they'll let me on with the cake.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Victor15b wrote: »
    Augustus wrote: »
    I just re-set up our convention stuff with Amtrak. Should get a call back soon.

    Convention stuff?
    Is there gonna a PAX car or something?

    Depending on how you define the word "convention" then yeah.

    Soooooo does Amtrak have a policy for portable kitchen appliances like blends, electric stoves, and Foreman grills. Cause I sorta want some smoothies(with booze) and some milkshakes(with more booze) I just want to know if we can open that option up.

    Edit: On the subject of cake my B-day is on Sept 1st so we should be having a cake.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You know, eventually we reach a point where the train becomes equal to or greater than PAX itself.

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  • Moe FwackyMoe Fwacky Right Here, Right Now Drives a BuickModerator mod
    edited April 2008
    I think the train would derail before it hit that point.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    You know, eventually we reach a point where the train becomes equal to or greater than PAX itself.

    Well I could try talking the Minibosses into join me from AZ for 09 at PAX this year. Then we can find out if Amtrak likes the idea of live concerts on the train.

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  • TransparentTransparent Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    We should all pitch in for some sleeper rooms to host panels in.

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  • SakebombSakebomb Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Is there alot of hassle invovled boarding the train like there is with airlines?

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited April 2008
    Add me to the list, I'll be getting on at LA.

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Sakebomb wrote: »
    Is there alot of hassle invovled boarding the train like there is with airlines?

    Nope none at all.

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  • LindygamerLindygamer Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I remember reading somewhere that amtrak was beefing up security in the coming year. I dont think it will be as bad as airlines but we may get some looks for all the equipment we will be bringing on.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Gonna work something out so I can be a part of this. Currently working out some details with my sister but overall I'd be looking at getting on at LA since it seems that even thought I live in Pomona with a pretty decent sized AmTrak hub it doesn't even connect to LA. :|

    So looks like I'll be getting a ride to LA and going from there. Unless there's an Amtrak hub near Pomona that connects to LA that I don't know about.

    EDIT: Looks like I'll have everything wrapped up on Friday.

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  • AugustusAugustus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Holy shit, we broke the 70 mark. Added Arikado and robothero - welcome aboard!

    Current word from Amtrak is: Nothing. I'm back in touch with Dolores, the group manager, though, and she's sending me some stuff I was apparently supposed to get already. However, last we heard is this:

    - We're getting our own car
    - Kiddie car available to us exclusively

    Dunno about appliances. That's a weird question and I don't know if that counts as muscling in on the train staff's turf. I know we are allowed to bring food and beverages but beyond that I don't know. I'll ask :)

    I really want to finish this Amtrak shit so I can get us group rates ASAP.

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Strongly considering hopping on board. It would be my first PAX, and I've been wanting to go ever since the first one. My only problem is that I'll be down in San Diego for school and don't know whether I'll have to go back up to LA to take the train. Anyone know if I can be the caboose(or front if you look at it the other way)?

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Also, I'm planning on bringing my Xbox HD which contains my DLC (see sig) which is over half of what has been put up for download so far. It is the least I can promise to bring this early. I'll bring my DS along with some books and perhaps my Magic cards.

    One of the reasons I'll be going to PAX is for the rumored Rock Band tourney of which I was recruited in. I was planning on going and someone pointed me here, so yeah, this is gonna be kickass awesome.

    Shady, its during the Labor Day weekend. What school has class during that time?

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The current terminus of the train is Los Angeles. You can take the Pacific Surfliner from SD to LA, though.

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Arikado wrote: »
    Shady, its during the Labor Day weekend. What school has class during that time?

    Friday is a school day, smarty pants. I guess I'll have to get back to LA early. :|

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Arikado wrote: »
    Also, I'm planning on bringing my Xbox HD which contains my DLC (see sig) which is over half of what has been put up for download so far. It is the least I can promise to bring this early. I'll bring my DS along with some books and perhaps my Magic cards.

    One of the reasons I'll be going to PAX is for the rumored Rock Band tourney of which I was recruited in. I was planning on going and someone pointed me here, so yeah, this is gonna be kickass awesome.

    Shady, its during the Labor Day weekend. What school has class during that time?

    Yeah, as I mentioned on the last page. Just the HD won't work since we aren't guaranteed to have internet up the whole way and without the original Xbox the downloads are tied to, it needs to be online to work.

    So who is bringing the 360 anyways? Perhaps we could organize a fund to get them all the DLC... If we all chipped in 5 bucks or so we could probably afford everything.

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  • HighfireHighfire Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You know, I was talking to my friend that is bring his HD. And he said that he's played the songs on other people 360s. Are you sure you're right? Have you tried this yourself?

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  • eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Highfire wrote: »
    You know, I was talking to my friend that is bring his HD. And he said that he's played the songs on other people 360s. Are you sure you're right? Have you tried this yourself?

    Yes, it only works if its online. Tried playing songs I've downloaded on my friends 360, worked fine until the internet cut out and they magically disappeared from the setlist until we reset his router and modem and got it connected again.

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  • HighfireHighfire Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well if we are all lucky, then there will be internet on the train. Like there was last year.
    Kind of....

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  • TNTrooperTNTrooper Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I really got half a mind to save up like $60-80 and just grab everything Rock Band got DLC wise and just lug my 360.
    Let's me play against some suckers in Lumines Live as well.

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