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Chop LogicChop Logic Registered User regular
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  • tendoboy101tendoboy101 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Do it. Right now the cash is more important to you than your labor is to them. If you don't take the job, someone else will. Plus working with the public is an interesting and I think important thing to do. It's eye opening to say the least if you haven't done that kind of work already.

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I think it's in your best interest to let your feelings about the large chains take a backseat. We've all done jobs we don't like but in the end are for the best. I would apply to Starbucks if I were you.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I hear you. The same situation happened to me by interviewing for a military defense corporation, which is obviously a lot larger scale.

    Take solace in the fact that you're getting money in a temporary job that would be filled by someone regardless. You're not drinking their coffee and supporting them by paying steep prices, you're earning money from them with time that would be wasted over the summer. You're also not going to be there forever, and getting a summer job with Starbucks does help your social skills, discipline, and work ethic.

    Even the most leftist organizations need a structured chain of command.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Try to think of it as you putting a drain on their budget by being on staff. Even though that is completely and utterly false.

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  • KilljoyKilljoy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    Shit in the urinal a couple of times.

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  • Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    A lot of life is about perspective. You may feel strongly about your views now, but in the future they may change. You may be better served by taking a more open view on life, experiences, how you choose to define them, and how you let them define you.

    The blunt truth is I seriously doubt you have obtained the experience necessary to make a truly informed judgment on politics and ethics (then again, I seriously doubt anyone really has the "necessary" experience to make fully informed judgments on those subjects). You may hate corporations now, but you have yet to actually work for one. You have yet to actually be "in the workforce" (a dubious concept to many, I'm aware), period.

    Not wanting to be hypocritical is a good thing, as many people are often too-willing to look past their own inconsistencies to further their own views and desires. But at the same time, you don't want to close yourself off to learning something new or obtaining a new perspective just because you happen to have decided upon a certain opinion early on. Real intellectual maturity brings a willingness to review old ideas and an openness to new points of view. Sometimes you're going to be wrong. Hell, most of the time you're going to be wrong. Welcome to life.

    The above is my long-winded way of saying take the damn job. If you are unwilling to bend on your own established ideology, you can just lie to yourself and take it as a learning opportunity. That way when you rail against corporate America during your happy years at college you can truss up your opinion with the phrase, "I worked at Starbucks so this entitles me to have an opinion on everything vaguely related to the topic of corporations, economics, and public policy." I'm guessing you'll probably want to phrase that in your own terms.

    Plus, it sounds like you could use the money. Which might help inform your opinion on matters such as making decisions based on necessity rather than principle (e.g., being dirt poor and being forced to choose from a myriad of shitty options). It might also help inform your views on what actually constitutes a corporation (e.g., the people who work for them, the people who make them up, the type of work corporations actually do at the end of the day, etc. etc. etc.) from a more grounded framework than reading opinions from a book and thinking, "Gee golly, that sounds real smart! I think I'll follow what this guy is saying!"

    If I sound harsh, it's because I care.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Just remember, this is just a summer job. You aren't making a career out of this. Suck it up for the summer, you might come to find that you enjoy the atmosphere and the people you are working with. Even if you disagree with the company.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    We are of course ignoring the fact that Starbucks is pretty much considered the shinning light when it comes for multinational corporations. I mean why don't you do some reading instead of painting something as evil, I mean the head of starbucks wants to earn a few dollars so do you. Isn't this a bit hypocritical?

    Regardless your question seems to be. "My friend has pretty much lined up a perfectly cuisey part time job which I am ethically opposed to. Should I lower my values to take it or continue to sit on my lazy arse and complain that there are no jobs out there at places I would like to work for."

    I mean shit have you even given a resume at a place that you would like to work at? I don't care if they don't have a hiring sign in the window, walk in and have a chat to the manager.

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  • Penguin_OtakuPenguin_Otaku Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Swallow your pride and get over this "corporations are evil" bit. They suck, limit competition, but without them we'd be fucked in some form or another.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Take it. I don't think Starbucks is despised because of the way it treats it's employees. And unlike refusing to buy coffee from there, refusing to take a job there will have absolutely zero effect on Starbucks evil plans of global domination.

    If I were you I'd just take the job and continue (well, I assume you are already) boycotting them. That probably sounds dumb but I do think working there and paying them money are a lot different.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whether or not you are a register jockey for Starbucks is going to make exactly zero difference to their bottom line. They're not going to go out of business just because you refuse to work there. If you need the money, take the job.

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  • Soviet WaffleSoviet Waffle Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Take it, you're going to need the money, and the major corporations don't need you to keep on running. Obviously don't persue a career in that direction, but getting a job to pick up some cash is worth it.
    (Don't work at Chevron)
    (It sucks)

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