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Xbox Cheaters (now with less Live!)

Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my worldRound Rock, TXRegistered User regular
edited March 2008 in Games and Technology
I didn't see a thread on this, so if there is one, I apologize. Provide a link and I'll have this one locked.

I just noticed this on Yahoo news of all places.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/87620

http://majornelson.com/archive/2008/03/25/gamerscore-correction.aspx

Basically, Microsoft is now punishing people who cheat through save game hacking to unlock Achievements they didn't earn. They are resetting your Gamerscore to zero, not allowing you to get points from previously unlocked Achievements again (whether cheated or legit), and adding a line to your profile that lets everyone know you're a cheater. You can still get points through unlocking new Achievements.

I think this a great thing. I'm all for single-player cheating, but not when it affects others, like through leaderboards, and that's basically what a Gamerscore is.

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  • GertBeefGertBeef Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    This thread needs a picture of that grinning kid with braces.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    GertBeef wrote: »
    This thread needs a picture of that grinning kid with braces.

    The best part about live isn't cheating, its showing all my friends online that I did.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    They're actually starting to obviously crack down on racist/bad profiles too. I went to check a guy on my recent players list that I reported a couple hours earlier that had a whole bio on "fags", "jews" and the n word in combination with other bad words, they had blanked out his profile with "Code of Conduct".

    Apparently his gamertag which amounted to saying "Sucking Dick" wasn't enough for them to change though.

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I think this a great thing. I'm all for single-player cheating, but not when it affects others, like through leaderboards, and that's basically what a Gamerscore is.
    Why do people care about gamerscore? How does this compare to people who farm points on easy games (launch generation sports titles, etc.)?

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  • mrsnackroadmrsnackroad Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I always have a small, sad little laugh when I see people who've only gained points from playing Halo online.

    Mostly because it seems like they've gone and bought a 360 and a game and a Live subscription just to play ONE GAME online.

    That said, if you really cared enough to cheat to get the achievements, getting caught and having your achievements completely reset to zero is a fitting punishment.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I always have a small, sad little laugh when I see people who've only gained points from playing Halo online.

    Mostly because it seems like they've gone and bought a 360 and a game and a Live subscription just to play ONE GAME online.

    That said, if you really cared enough to cheat to get the achievements, getting caught and having your achievements completely reset to zero is a fitting punishment.

    If you saw my gamerscore, Halo 3 is all you'd see, because all my points are on a non-live profile.

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  • mrsnackroadmrsnackroad Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I always have a small, sad little laugh when I see people who've only gained points from playing Halo online.

    Mostly because it seems like they've gone and bought a 360 and a game and a Live subscription just to play ONE GAME online.

    That said, if you really cared enough to cheat to get the achievements, getting caught and having your achievements completely reset to zero is a fitting punishment.

    If you saw my gamerscore, Halo 3 is all you'd see, because all my points are on a non-live profile.

    Okay - I hadn't thought of people doing that, honestly. Out of curiousity and completely serious, may I ask why?

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I always have a small, sad little laugh when I see people who've only gained points from playing Halo online.

    Mostly because it seems like they've gone and bought a 360 and a game and a Live subscription just to play ONE GAME online.

    That said, if you really cared enough to cheat to get the achievements, getting caught and having your achievements completely reset to zero is a fitting punishment.

    If you saw my gamerscore, Halo 3 is all you'd see, because all my points are on a non-live profile.

    Okay - I hadn't thought of people doing that, honestly. Out of curiousity and completely serious, may I ask why?

    I bought the wireless adaptor a few months after the console, and upgrading an existing profile to a live one deletes everything. If there's a way to upgrade without deleting things, I'm far too lazy to find it.

    I mainly use my PC for online games, and live to download stuff like songs for Rockband and whatnot.

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  • mrsnackroadmrsnackroad Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Oh... I hadn't known that, yeah... thank you for answering!

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  • GertBeefGertBeef Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    They're actually starting to obviously crack down on racist/bad profiles too. I went to check a guy on my recent players list that I reported a couple hours earlier that had a whole bio on "fags", "jews" and the n word in combination with other bad words, they had blanked out his profile with "Code of Conduct".

    Apparently his gamertag which amounted to saying "Sucking Dick" wasn't enough for them to change though.

    What about that guy the other day whose name was "Kill all muslims".

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    GertBeef wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    They're actually starting to obviously crack down on racist/bad profiles too. I went to check a guy on my recent players list that I reported a couple hours earlier that had a whole bio on "fags", "jews" and the n word in combination with other bad words, they had blanked out his profile with "Code of Conduct".

    Apparently his gamertag which amounted to saying "Sucking Dick" wasn't enough for them to change though.

    What about that guy the other day whose name was "Kill all muslims".

    Well, I mean that name is patriotic, we can't go changin' that now can we?

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Um, no, upgrading an existing account to Live doesn't delete anything. That's how I set up my wife's Live account.

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  • RosettiRosetti Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I always have a small, sad little laugh when I see people who've only gained points from playing Halo online.

    Mostly because it seems like they've gone and bought a 360 and a game and a Live subscription just to play ONE GAME online.

    That said, if you really cared enough to cheat to get the achievements, getting caught and having your achievements completely reset to zero is a fitting punishment.

    I find the naming and the shaming even more delicious. Although both are a truly excellent method of snipping off the e-penis.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah, if you create a new Live profile you can't merge the two, but you can upgrade once you're signed in with no effort. I have no idea why people have problems with this, to be honest.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    GertBeef wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    They're actually starting to obviously crack down on racist/bad profiles too. I went to check a guy on my recent players list that I reported a couple hours earlier that had a whole bio on "fags", "jews" and the n word in combination with other bad words, they had blanked out his profile with "Code of Conduct".

    Apparently his gamertag which amounted to saying "Sucking Dick" wasn't enough for them to change though.

    What about that guy the other day whose name was "Kill all muslims".

    I haven't checked up on him yet. And if they forced a name change I wouldn't be able to tell :P

    edit: looks like he's been deleted.

    edit2: no he hasn't. It looks like they ordered a name change and he simply changed a couple of letters:

    http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=DIE%20MUZLIMZ%20DIE

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Bama wrote: »
    I think this a great thing. I'm all for single-player cheating, but not when it affects others, like through leaderboards, and that's basically what a Gamerscore is.
    Why do people care about gamerscore? How does this compare to people who farm points on easy games (launch generation sports titles, etc.)?

    I personally don't care about Gamerscores, but some people obviously do if they're willing to cheat to get them. With the easy games, they at least still had to put in a little time and effort to get them. I think it's one thing to say, "I beat this game", but it's another to have a Gamerscore to show for it.

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  • rvcontre78rvcontre78 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Does anyone remember the Waaahmbulance tha Bungie had a while back? Where they would post the e-mails from people they found cheating? That was hilarious. I can't seem to find a working link anymore though. : P

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