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About to spend 5000 dollars on a computer.

EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
edited April 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
And I cannot for the life of me find a case that I like to put it all in. I want something that looks bad ass, but not gaudy or blingy, I cant seem to find that after flipping through both new egg and tiger direct. Could you guys give me any recommendations on other places to look or specific cases you think I might have missed. Taste wise, I would love to get my hands on an empty black bird case as I think those look incredibly cool, but buying one is out of the question since it is to slow for the money. I would really appreciate any help at all.

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    EvilMuffin wrote: »
    And I cannot for the life of me find a case that I like to put it all in. I want something that looks bad ass, but not gaudy or blingy, I cant seem to find that after flipping through both new egg and tiger direct. Could you guys give me any recommendations on other places to look or specific cases you think I might have missed. Taste wise, I would love to get my hands on an empty black bird case as I think those look incredibly cool, but buying one is out of the question since it is to slow for the money. I would really appreciate any help at all.

    $5000.... Owch.

    Anyway:
    Antec P182 http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81820
    Cooler Master Centurion 5

    I have both of these cases. The centurion 5 is simple and understated, but may not be good enough for a $5k system. The P182b is an awesome looking case IMO with sold cooling and sound deadening, although it is slightly too complicated in some aspects.

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  • pacbowlpacbowl Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    noobert wrote: »

    Hey, that's the same case I have and I love it. It's very solid and I like the removable/reusable air filters in the front.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Uh..If you're putting it together yourself, how the heck are you spending $5000 on it, even triple-SLIing 9800s and getting a $1k quad core, that shouldn't be more than 2 or 3 thousand

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Going with the quad core SLI set up. Best pieces I can get all around, a raptor main drive and two Tera raids.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I love the Antec Sonata I/II/III. Best case design I've seen. It's super quiet and the perpendicular hard drive bays are invaluable.

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  • RaereRaere Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Would there be a way to get hands on an empty black bird case?

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    EvilMuffin wrote: »
    Going with the quad core SLI set up. Best pieces I can get all around, a raptor main drive and two Tera raids.

    You may want to go with this case then. It's much larger, has much better cooling and dual PSU's.
    EvilMuffin wrote: »
    Would there be a way to get hands on an empty black bird case?

    Maybe Ebay?

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  • splashsplash Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Wow, there's some interesting cases out there. I watched the video demo of the Antec P182.. no idea it could take 5 minutes to explain a case's features. I like my Cooler Master Centurion 5 though.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Antec's 18X series is very solid, I have a 180 in silver and it does me well. The only thing you need to remember is that it is a fairly big case (though by the sounds of it you do need the size).

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Damn, if I spent that much money on a computer, it's case would be a cardboard box (edit: which would double as my house) :(. Damn science carrier doesn't pay academics anything!

    Out of curiosity, what can you possibly have that makes it so expensive?

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  • GlocjtGlocjt catstronaut in spaaace.Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    pacbowl wrote: »
    noobert wrote: »

    Hey, that's the same case I have and I love it. It's very solid and I like the removable/reusable air filters in the front.

    Ditto that. :)

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    It may not help if you've already made up your mind, and I know this isn't exactly what you asked about, but the way computer technology goes, you would be roughly 1000x better off getting a $2500 computer now, and a $2500 computer 2-3 years from now, or at least something along those lines.

    I can't see any reason to spend that much on a computer. You very quickly get to the point where a $5000 computer is probably going to be about 4% better than a $2500 machine. Or you could look at it as a $5000 machine will last about 2 months longer than a $2500 machine before you replace it. It just doesn't scale well enough or last long enough to spend that much in my opinion.

    Unless of course you just won the lottery, or $3000 of that cost is going into a shitload of LCDs.

    My 2 cents.

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Nocturne wrote: »
    It may not help if you've already made up your mind, and I know this isn't exactly what you asked about, but the way computer technology goes, you would be roughly 1000x better off getting a $2500 computer now, and a $2500 computer 2-3 years from now, or at least something along those lines.

    I can't see any reason to spend that much on a computer. You very quickly get to the point where a $5000 computer is probably going to be about 4% better than a $2500 machine. Or you could look at it as a $5000 machine will last about 2 months longer than a $2500 machine before you replace it. It just doesn't scale well enough or last long enough to spend that much in my opinion.

    Unless of course you just won the lottery, or $3000 of that cost is going into a shitload of LCDs.

    My 2 cents.

    I agree with this. This is a good thread.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Nocturne wrote: »
    It may not help if you've already made up your mind, and I know this isn't exactly what you asked about, but the way computer technology goes, you would be roughly 1000x better off getting a $2500 computer now, and a $2500 computer 2-3 years from now, or at least something along those lines.

    I can't see any reason to spend that much on a computer. You very quickly get to the point where a $5000 computer is probably going to be about 4% better than a $2500 machine. Or you could look at it as a $5000 machine will last about 2 months longer than a $2500 machine before you replace it. It just doesn't scale well enough or last long enough to spend that much in my opinion.

    Unless of course you just won the lottery, or $3000 of that cost is going into a shitload of LCDs.

    My 2 cents.

    If I limed the whole thing it would be annoying but uh, this. In fact you'd be better off spending 1.5k now and 1.5k later and 1.5k later and spending the extra 500 on ten games.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Care posting specs for this rig?

    5k seems a little high - even for a High End machine.

    I just built a new computer this past X-Mas and used a Cooler Master AMMO 533. It was a nice case, had a lot of space for a Mid-Tower. Sounds like you're wanting a full tower though.

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Honestly. A company that wanted me to sign a contract with them is paying for it as a sign on bonus, I can actually spend up to 7000 dollars total. Does anyone know of a company that makes a HAL like computer case, I think that would be pretty bad ass. Ill post specs when I have them finalized. Deffinatly going with a tera raid and a solid state drive as well just for the novelty.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I can actually spend up to 7000 dollars total.

    Well shit, encase that bastard in high carbon steel with a liquid nitrogen cooling system

    On a serious note, I assume you're already planning to get an unnecessarily huge monitor? I was in our graphics department room the other day and the guy had a widescreen LCD, larger than a 24 inch, but not like a TV screen or anything, just a normal monitor, it may've been like goddamned 32 inches

    It made me cry

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I was thinking either a 30 or a 42 wide screen for the monitor.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Lian Li makes solid (but expensive) cases.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Might it not be better to eschew the 'novelty' components and super high-end parts? I mean, if the warranties are air-tight and you're guaranteed the best support in the event of anything going wrong you yourself can't address, but otherwise ... replacing a $1000 part costs $1000. Something to keep in mind, maybe? You don't mention if they're also willing to pay maintenance/repair on the machine, just that they'll foot the initial costs. :)

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    He could always get the expensive good'uns and then replace them with "normal" parts on his own dime if they break!

    The problem is like if his super high end mega video card he needs to run minesweeper in a 74563487x756397 resolution breaks, you can't really downgrade that without having to downgrade the resolution, which probably means downgrading the monitor and so on...

    Though replacing your RAM that stores data in dimensional rifts with normal RAM probably wouldn't be a big deal

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I do not mind having to replace parts out of pocket if it comes to that.

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  • embrikembrik Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Lian Li makes solid (but expensive) cases.

    That's my vote if you want to DIY.
    However, if you've got 7K to burn, consider a Falcon Northwest system. They'll put damn near anything in those things, and you can even get custom paint jobs on the case if you're willing to pay for it.

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  • gogglesgoggles Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Get a Mac Pro. You can easily spend $7k getting a really pimped out burner.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    goggles wrote: »
    Get a Mac Pro. You can easily spend $7k getting a really pimped out burner.

    Agreed. I've built my last four computers, but my next one will be an Apple. My work gave me a MacBook Pro running Vista and I've never been as impressed with hardware performance.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Well, the problem with a Mac is that you can't upgrade it later when you want it to get faster, and seeing as he's spending 5 motherfucking THOUSAND dollars on a computer I would bet that obsolescence is something he's going to want to stave off with something other than a completely new computer.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Well, the problem with a Mac is that you can't upgrade it later when you want it to get faster, and seeing as he's spending 5 motherfucking THOUSAND dollars on a computer I would bet that obsolescence is something he's going to want to stave off with something other than a completely new computer.

    It's not 1990 anymore.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    If the software you principally run is available on the Mac, a Mac is a great way to go - the main reason I don't have one is that Macs cost roughly twice as much as a comparably powered PC, but they're beautiful machines if you can afford them. If you want to game or run PC-exclusive software most of the time, it's kind of silly to buy a Mac and then run Parallels the entire time.

    If they let you, you should get a bad-ass PC and a MacBook Pro.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    If the software you principally run is available on the Mac, a Mac is a great way to go - the main reason I don't have one is that Macs cost roughly twice as much as a comparably powered PC, but they're beautiful machines if you can afford them. If you want to game or run PC-exclusive software most of the time, it's kind of silly to buy a Mac and then run Parallels the entire time.

    If they let you, you should get a bad-ass PC and a MacBook Pro.

    Apple Boot Camp lets you run Windows native, and it has ever since Apple switched to X86 Intel processors.

    Aside from that, Apple machines use PCI express and normal video cards and RAM.

    Hell, the processors ALONE on this machine would cost $1500 to buy. Best of luck finding a machine with similar specs for $1400.
    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?node=home/shop_mac/family/mac_pro

    It's not 1990 any more.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    You really need to think about spending some of that money on something that will have some lasting value. Quad SLI is like setting money on fire. Hell hasn't 2x SLI been shown to have very very little impact on framerates.

    Get a pair of these, and then when you upgrade your computer in 2 years you still have a sexy fucking setup.

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  • Totally BonerTotally Boner __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Ya I really think your going about buying this computer the wrong way. Putting all your eggs in one basket is a little rediculous. Why not just go with a high end pc for 2-3gs. go duel 30inch lcd. and drop the rest on peripherals. Sweet 7.1 sound, ipod, etc. Or go with a Mac and drop the rest on monitors. I really dont think SLI is the way to go. And if I had that much to drop I'd get something that had a warranty and some support.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    do they have like some form of an ultimate lifetime apple care? that would the way to go

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    A friend of mine recently bought one of the newer Mac Pro's (or whatever they're called) with dual quad-core CPU's. Oh my God, the performance from that beast... he hasn't been able to max out the cpu's yet, he keeps running out of RAM first (and he has 6gb).

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I already own one of the dual quad core mac pros, its actuality what I am typing this own. I thank you all for the advice though. I may go the dual monitor route.

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  • EvilMuffinEvilMuffin Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Can you game across a dual monitor set up or does it just revert back to one?

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    EvilMuffin wrote: »
    Can you game across a dual monitor set up or does it just revert back to one?

    Depends on the game.

    TF2 will just use 1.

    Supreme Commander can use both.

    The frustrating thing about dual monitors is that, most of the time, when running a game full screen you still need to alt tab to move focus to the 2nd monitor.

    I used dual monitors a lot when i was doing a lot of coding and playing a lot of WoW. Game in window mode on 1 screen, 2nd screen for thottbot/msn/dvds. Obviously the dev speaks for its self.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Have you considered yet that using the entirety of the alloted $7000, just for the sake of using the entirety of the alloted $7000, may not reflect all that well upon you with this company? They're obviously rather serious about you signing on with them in whatever capacity this is, and they obviously have some money, but I'm not sure you want to come into the workplace as "the guy who sent us a $6999.96 bill when we gave him a ceiling of $7000."

    If the best machine you can envision building is only a few thousand dollars, for Christ's sake, curtail your spending at a few thousand dollars.

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  • Dark MoonDark Moon Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    Have you considered yet that using the entirety of the alloted $7000, just for the sake of using the entirety of the alloted $7000, may not reflect all that well upon you with this company? They're obviously rather serious about you signing on with them in whatever capacity this is, and they obviously have some money, but I'm not sure you want to come into the workplace as "the guy who sent us a $6999.96 bill when we gave him a ceiling of $7000."

    If the best machine you can envision building is only a few thousand dollars, for Christ's sake, curtail your spending at a few thousand dollars.

    This seems highly unlikely. If they wanted him to spend less than $7k, they would have given him a ceiling of less than $7k. I see no reason for the employer to look down on him for spending within his allotted budget, as doing so would make him and his company look like idiots who don't know how to budget.

    I highly recommend a dual or, if you can swing it, triple monitor setup. Three Dell 24" monitors side by side would be dreamlike if you ever have to do spreadsheets, use photo editing software, browse the internet or have a large number of text documents on screen at once. And that's not considering the possibility of games using multiple monitors, which many can.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    He doesn't make it sound like it's a for-work PC, though ... I don't know, I'm not from corporate so I don't really know the proper etiquette here. It just seems silly to me, since $7000 is such an absolutely absurd amount of money to spend on a personal, non-profession-specific PC.

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