The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Got an iPhone- need setup/jailbreak H/A

SamSam Registered User regular
edited April 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi, I just purchased a 16 Gig iPhone. Well yesterday, and I have it with me, and haven't activated it yet, so all it can do is call the cops I'm guessing. I intend to use AT&T and had my number ported over. I don't have an SSN, so it seems to be basically giving me the same plan through their prepaid pickyourplan thing, where you basically authorize and autopay out of your bank account or credit card each month.
I'm not clear on how long I'm gonna have this autobilled- also I don't know if EDGE works under this thing (it looks like it does though), or if they are going to shaft me with exorbitant prices per minute like other companies do for prepaid.

Right now I'm in a spot of trouble as I'm having a replacement visa card mailed to me, and my old card is shut down. I'm going to try giving them my checking account details, although I thought I should ask here if that's such a good idea.

Finally, Jailbreaking. Right now nothing even tells me the firmware details. How do I go about adding apps to this thing, and is there actually a reliable restoring utility to set it back to factory settings?

I need to jailbreak for A) the fact that it becomes a device well worth the money, and B) I travel, and don't want to pay retarded ass international roaming. I want to put in a new simcard when I leave the U.S. Which brings me to

How the hell do you get that SIM tray open? Does doing it void the warranty?

Even if you can't answer any of those, for anyone using an iPhone or in the know, I'd appreciate any tips, app recommendations, etc.

Sam on

Posts

  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The SIM tray pops open at the top, with a paper clip (think of an old floppy drive). I dropped mine once, and had to reseat the SIM card.

    I don't know much about jailbreaking or firmware (haven't tried any), but I do know that if something goes wrong, you can reset the machine to factory settings using iTunes. So you won't ruin the phone if you screw around with it, from a software point of view.

    Edit - by 'the top', I mean to the immediate right of the headphone jack - just stick a paperclip in the little hole, and the tray will pop out.

    jkylefulton on
    tOkYVT2.jpg
  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    http://gizmodo.com/348719/iphone-113-jailbreak-is-here

    Jailbreak instructions for 1.1.3., courtesy of gizmodo.

    matt has a problem on
    nibXTE7.png
  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    The SIM tray pops open at the top, with a paper clip (think of an old floppy drive). I dropped mine once, and had to reseat the SIM card.

    I don't know much about jailbreaking or firmware (haven't tried any), but I do know that if something goes wrong, you can reset the machine to factory settings using iTunes. So you won't ruin the phone if you screw around with it, from a software point of view.

    Edit - by 'the top', I mean to the immediate right of the headphone jack - just stick a paperclip in the little hole, and the tray will pop out.

    Not true. If you update a jailbroken phone the way it is to a new version of Apple's firmware, it will get bricked. There are unbricking tools, but its' basically a race between apple and the modding community as apple adds bricks that undo unbricking, while the hackers undo those. And it's really hard to keep up with it all.

    Sam on
  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    and i thought they were already up to 1.1.4?

    Sam on
  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I have never heard of anyone bricking an iphone, that couldn't restore it back easily.

    edit: I dunno, I wouldn't even go to 1.1.3 yet, quite buggy still, especially 1.1.4. I am on 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

    mooshoepork on
  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I have never heard of anyone bricking an iphone, that couldn't restore it back easily.

    edit: I dunno, I wouldn't even go to 1.1.3 yet, quite buggy still, especially 1.1.4. I am on 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

    Not now. But Apple is doing an update for when they launch the app store that's basically written to counteract the current unbrickers, and apparently wont be unbrickable once bricked, at least not in the same way. I don't know how successful it'll be, or how the modders can deal with it, but it's scary since pretty much everyone is going to need that update.

    Sam on
  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    why will everyone need that update? To use the app store? The whole point of jailbreaking is so you don't need to use the app store. Sorry, but am I missing something here?

    mooshoepork on
  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I have never heard of anyone bricking an iphone, that couldn't restore it back easily.

    edit: I dunno, I wouldn't even go to 1.1.3 yet, quite buggy still, especially 1.1.4. I am on 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I've found my jailbroken 1.1.4 phone to be at least, if not more, stable than my 1.1.2 not-hacked phone was.

    DeathPrawn on
    Signature not found.
  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    I have never heard of anyone bricking an iphone, that couldn't restore it back easily.

    edit: I dunno, I wouldn't even go to 1.1.3 yet, quite buggy still, especially 1.1.4. I am on 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I've found my jailbroken 1.1.4 phone to be at least, if not more, stable than my 1.1.2 not-hacked phone was.

    Yeah, I wasn't 100% on it, it was just things I heard. Sorry to hijack but, if you don't mind, could you tell me the benefit of going to 1.1.4? As I said I am on 1.1.2, and everything works, I haven't had any issues except hotmail not working. Thanks :)

    mooshoepork on
  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    I have never heard of anyone bricking an iphone, that couldn't restore it back easily.

    edit: I dunno, I wouldn't even go to 1.1.3 yet, quite buggy still, especially 1.1.4. I am on 1.1.2 and everything works fine.

    I have to respectfully disagree. I've found my jailbroken 1.1.4 phone to be at least, if not more, stable than my 1.1.2 not-hacked phone was.

    Yeah, I wasn't 100% on it, it was just things I heard. Sorry to hijack but, if you don't mind, could you tell me the benefit of going to 1.1.4? As I said I am on 1.1.2, and everything works, I haven't had any issues except hotmail not working. Thanks :)

    There very well may be more new stuff, but off the top of my head:
    - You can make webclips, which are essentially Safari bookmarks that live as icons on the springboard
    - In the same vein, you can now move all the icons around however you want, including creating multiple pages and changing the dock.
    - Maps got a significant overhaul. The interface is different, and you can use Google Maps faux-GPS "Locate Me" function either to pinpoint you on a map or get directions from your (roughly) current location.
    - You can send a text message to multiple recipients.

    All of these can be done via 3rd party apps, but the Apple solutions are as always better integrated and (especially in the case of rearranging the springboard) easier to use.

    DeathPrawn on
    Signature not found.
  • mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Regarding "is giving my checking account number a good idea": it's not any worse than giving a Visa or Mastercard, because you still have dispute rights.

    If you write them a paper check then that's one thing, but if you just given them an account and ABA routing number, they can only take money from your account via an ACH (automated clearing house) draft. ACH drafts can be reversed as 'unauthorized' up to 30 days after they've posted, for consumer demand deposit accounts. (Business accounts I think only have one day.)

    So if you're picturing a dispute scenario where you give them account details and they start debiting money automatically; you then discontinue their service, but they keep charging you, and you want them to stop: YES you can wait for them to charge you again, go talk to your bank, and they will send the ACH debit back as a fatal item. I'm not an expert in NACHA regs but I believe regs prohibit them from sending another ACH debit without your explicit (written) permission.

    (I am a banker but not an ACH expert. You can find your own bank's ACH department by taking your routing number and putting it here: http://www.fededirectory.frb.org/search_ACH.cfm )

    mspencer on
    MEMBER OF THE PARANOIA GM GUILD
    XBL Michael Spencer || Wii 6007 6812 1605 7315 || PSN MichaelSpencerJr || Steam Michael_Spencer || Ham NOØK
    QRZ || My last known GPS coordinates: FindU or APRS.fi (Car antenna feed line busted -- no ham radio for me X__X )
  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm still debating jailbreaking my phone, but I've never gotten a satisfying answer about the degree to which a jailbreak can be undone. Is the baseband irreversibly updated? If so, it seems like Apple could find that out if I sent it in for repairs and void my warranty.

    Septus on
    PSN: Kurahoshi1
  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Septus wrote: »
    I'm still debating jailbreaking my phone, but I've never gotten a satisfying answer about the degree to which a jailbreak can be undone. Is the baseband irreversibly updated? If so, it seems like Apple could find that out if I sent it in for repairs and void my warranty.

    It depends on what software you use to jailbreak. I'm fairly certain that iPlus offers baseband reversibility - that was the big argument for it over Ziphone when it first came out.

    DeathPrawn on
    Signature not found.
  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    why will everyone need that update? To use the app store? The whole point of jailbreaking is so you don't need to use the app store. Sorry, but am I missing something here?

    not sure about you but I want to play super monkey ball and Spore

    Sam on
Sign In or Register to comment.