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ideas for jobs for inexperienced 55y.o.?

-bean-bean Registered User regular
edited April 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi, I'm trying to help a friend find a job that requires no experience and not too much training; a man who's 55.

Training seems to be a big deal at this age as companies have been reluctant to teach him as he will only be with them about 10 more years maximum.

So, does anyone have any ideas where he could start out? Things he's tried for are salesman jobs, shop clerk, working behind a bar.

Any help's much appreciated!

He used to be a plumber, but recently there's become too much competition in the field and he's not been getting work.

edit: Living in England.

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  • ShamuuuShamuuu regular
    edited April 2008
    Walmart? I'm serious.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Yeah I was going to come in and say Wal-mart too. Not sure if the pay would be worth it for him though.

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  • -bean-bean Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Thanks. He tried shop clerk at various outlets. But he's not tried any supermarkets, I'm guessing Sainsburys or Tescos or something is the closest equivalent to walmart?

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    If you do a search on google for "jobs for seniors" there's some interesting results that might give you some ideas, especially with experience with plumbing. I don't know, why'd you put "inexperienced" in the title if this guy has been a plumber his whole life? (Just curious is all). Is he a good plumber? It's a skill that could be quite useful if he was applying for maintenance jobs and such even if its hard to run a small business as a plumber.

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  • -bean-bean Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Thanks, I tried googling different ages but didn't find much, never thought to write "seniors".

    I put inexperienced as it doesn't seem to matter that he's got plumbing experience, as he hasn't been able to get into a firm (he was self employed before).

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  • honkymcgoohonkymcgoo Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I have no idea what you brits do in regard to airline security, but I know here the TSA seems to hire tons of older people, and I doubt that many of them were experienced with that before.

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  • TheungryTheungry Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Apartment building concierge. Seriously, being older and not having big upwardly mobile aspirations are an asset for the job. All you need is a pleasant personality, and the ability to challenge delivery people to sign a log book.

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  • Farout FoolioFarout Foolio Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I don't know if it's the same in the UK, but pretty much everyone and their mom and their dog can get a job at a call centre. Just make sure he stresses his great customer service ability and he should do just fine. :)

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Depending on where he lives (big city versus small city versus village/rural area)...

    1. Get him to take a bartending course (they're short, cheap, fun, and fairly easy to do), then apply as a bartender, to the right sort of places: hotels designed for businessmen, well-established pubs, that sort of thing. If he applies for a job flipping bottles at some trendy nightclub, of course he's going to lose out to some wet-behind-the-ears hipster punk so young he hasn't even *seen* Tom Cruise in Cocktail. But if he cleans himself up well, puts on a good suit, and puts his application directly in the hand of the manager of a quiet, upscale hotel, he'd have a much better chance.

    2. If he's willing to move, his plumbing experience could probably get him a fairly easy job as the superintendent of an apartment building, especially if he brushed up a bit on basic electrical repair too. Again, that's the sort of job for which people would honestly rather hire a stable, dependable 55 year old guy than a 20something kid. Supers usually get free rent in a place on-site, plus a monthly salary, in exchange for unclogging toilets, fixing leaky pipes, and taking care of other low-grade maintenance stuff.

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Has he tried finding contract plumbing work for another business? Like working for a Hotel or Public School System?

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Asda = WalMart. Asda are also good at employing older people.

    Pub work is also a good idea, but pubs are usually run by the landlord anyway, so there probably aren't any jobs there.

    Could he perhaps teach plumbing at a vocational school?

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  • -bean-bean Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Thanks all! fantastic. input's much appreciated!

    The superintendent and apartment concierge aren't avenues he's tried yet, so I'll pitch those too.

    He's done apprenticeships before, but I don't think he's done teaching at a school. The airport and call centre ideas are not really feasible because the city he's in is relatively small.

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  • fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    He is an experienced plumber? He should get a job at the UK version of Home Depot(Bix box hardware store) The best ones here have guys retired from the field working their proper departments.

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  • HorusHorus Los AngelesRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I know in Los Angeles there are non profit organizations who hire that type of demographics. Its a federal sponsored program, for retired or older people who companies don't want to hire nor train because of age. Helps a lot of people. Maybe try some organizations that help people find jobs government and non -profit.

    Hope this may give you ideas.

    Good luck, I know how that feels, my dad has been there.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    fuelish wrote: »
    He is an experienced plumber? He should get a job at the UK version of Home Depot(Bix box hardware store) The best ones here have guys retired from the field working their proper departments.

    Fuck, yes. There is no better shopping experience than having some old hand at plumbing / home repair walk me through what I need to buy and what I need to do.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    All the Home Depots in my area laid off the people who knew what they were doing, as they were more expensive to employ than idiots who don't know what aisle the paint is on.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I don't know if it's the same in the UK, but pretty much everyone and their mom and their dog can get a job at a call centre. Just make sure he stresses his great customer service ability and he should do just fine. :)

    From somebody who's worked in call centres most of his adult life - The old guys who had to do telesales after doing something decent their wholelives are always rubbish at it, and usually get sacked within weeks.

    Generally the adaptation from being responsible and respected to being a worker bee where the only thing to worry about is what to have from the sandwich lady and "oooohhh my gawd did you see what Tasha were wearing last night dehn club?! " is too much for them.

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    b & q actively employ older, skilled people. also, try local councils.

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  • -bean-bean Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    thanks again! Didn't realise h/w stores do that sort of thing.
    B&Q and local council seems good.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    -bean wrote: »
    He used to be a plumber, but recently there's become too much competition in the field and he's not been getting work.

    edit: Living in England.

    What? Seriously? This isn't supposed to happen with tradesmen. If it's true, why are they all still charging extortionate callout fees?

    Also, I should point out that if he's a plumber, he isn't unskilled or inexperienced. DIY shops sounds like a good idea. What about janitorial work at a school or some other large building. I'd imagine having actual trade skills would be very useful to a headteacher trying to keep budgets down and kipping in a boiler room for six hours a day can't be a bad way to make a living.

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  • -bean-bean Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    What? Seriously? This isn't supposed to happen with tradesmen. If it's true, why are they all still charging extortionate callout fees?

    No idea. Must depend on where you are. He's been doing it for most of his life, and did quotes for free. But still, ad's are getting nothing now.

    Apparently they're sought after in London. But then other people I've spoke to here (a city far North of London) all think that plumbers earn mega bucks!

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