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I'm back once again with one of my game suggestion threads since it looks right now I'll probably have to work during the summer. That means that I'll probably have a lot of dead time on my hands while sitting by the phone and I could use some help in filling that void. I own both a DS and a PSP and I'm looking for an RPG, whether it's a Strategy RPG, normal RPG or a Rogue like doesn't really matter, just as long as it's fun, lasts for quite a while and I wouldn't mind if it has a decent story.
So, feel free to recommend your favourite titles to me.
I currently own no RPG's on my handhelds since I've only just recently bought them on a fire sale. So that's why I need some reccommendations since I've been pretty much off the whole handheld market for quite a while.
Alrighty, then, FFT is a direct port of the playstation game, but with a few new things added. If you liked that, or never have played it, its a fun game.
Crisis Core is a fun action-rpg game, and its pretty long. I'm 12 and a half hours in and haven't beaten it yet, and I"m rushing through for the story.
Disgaea is a GRINDAN srpg that can keep you busy for a long time.
It's Wizardry/The Bard's Tale, but infected by an incurable case of The Anime. If you haven't played Wizardry before, gameplay consists of creating a small party, grinding monsters on level one of a dungeon for a couple of hours, then moving down to level two of the same dungeon, grind monsters there for a couple of hours, and repeat all the way down. Whenever your party gets fatigued, you have to recall back to town and trek through the dungeon again from the last save point. Movement is clunky, mapping is pointless busiwork and combat is typical JRPG fare.
Well, the music is good (though you will fast tire of the combat theme), and most of the party character portraits look fucking ridiculous; you might get some giggles out of that. Not twenty dollars worth of giggles, though.
BORIS: Hey FRANK we need to board a boat.
LILITH: We need to board a boat to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We should find a boat.
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* Or find someone with a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* Where can we find someone with a boat?
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* What am I going to do with my boat?
*SCREEN FILLED WITH EMOTES!*
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK that man has a boat.
LILITH: Excuse me sir do you have a boat?
HORTENCE: We have to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We need a boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* I have a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK he has a boat.
LILITH: Can we borrow your boat?
HORTENCE: We need your boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* But there are monsters!
LILITH: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
BORIS: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* We can kill those monsters right, FRANK?
[Dialogue options:] Yes / No. If no, get chastised by party and go to yes.
It's Wizardry/The Bard's Tale, but infected by an incurable case of The Anime. If you haven't played Wizardry before, gameplay consists of creating a small party, grinding monsters on level one of a dungeon for a couple of hours, then moving down to level two of the same dungeon, grind monsters there for a couple of hours, and repeat all the way down. Whenever your party gets fatigued, you have to recall back to town and trek through the dungeon again from the last save point. Movement is clunky, mapping is pointless busiwork and combat is typical JRPG fare.
Well, the music is good (though you will fast tire of the combat theme), and most of the party character portraits look fucking ridiculous; you might get some giggles out of that. Not twenty dollars worth of giggles, though.
BORIS: Hey FRANK we need to board a boat.
LILITH: We need to board a boat to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We should find a boat.
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* Or find someone with a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* Where can we find someone with a boat?
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* What am I going to do with my boat?
*SCREEN FILLED WITH EMOTES!*
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK that man has a boat.
LILITH: Excuse me sir do you have a boat?
HORTENCE: We have to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We need a boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* I have a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK he has a boat.
LILITH: Can we borrow your boat?
HORTENCE: We need your boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* But there are monsters!
LILITH: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
BORIS: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* We can kill those monsters right, FRANK?
[Dialogue options:] Yes / No. If no, get chastised by party and go to yes.
Back when I started studying Japanese, I played Golden Sun on import.
Until I threw it in the bin. Can you imagine how much more annoying dialogue like that is when you have to use a dictionary for half of it?
Anyway, Etrian Odyssey is very good. I'd stay away from Final Fantasy Revenant Wings. If I had a PSP I would be playing Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War, Disgaea PSP or Jeanne D'Arc.
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edited April 2008
I read about Riviera in another thread yesterday and swung by EBStop on the way home and picked it up used. I could swear i've played it before, but for the life of me can't remember where... I was under the impression this was a GBA port... but while i'm playing i get deja vu about a ps1 or ps2 game i played emulated.
Anyway, good game. Unless you're a completist... because this game has alot of... go this way or that way? Either way, you'll never be able to go the other way again!
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Oh, but it is the quantity. I no longer have the mental stamina to endure all the text at the beginning of either game. It amazes me how The Lost Age, which takes place directly after the original and at the halfway point in the story, can somehow make it feel like the beginning all over again, with all the talking there is.
And the end boss in the first game? Forget about it.
I've fallen headfirst into Disgaea again, so I'll throw a nod out to both Disgaea and FFT for PSP in that they're really the definitive versions of both of their games. The new translation for FFT makes it feel like a brand new game, although there's noticeable slowdown in battles. And Crisis Core is a very, very excellent action-RPG, though your opinions on FF7 will obviously weigh heavily into whether you will love the game or sigh at its setting and characterization.
And I would never willing submit any of my friends to either of the Golden Sun games in this day and age. A lot of people say good things about Brave Story for PSP but I found my reactions similar to both Golden Suns in that I just can't stomach the monotony and predictability anymore; it dances the fine line between "classic" and "cliche." You're better off checking out FF5 or 6 GBA and waiting for the DS version of FF4, which will have the battle-system glitches fixed up so the game is somewhat challenging again. For roguelikes, a ton of people have been excited about Shiren the Wanderer—and though Wizardry-likes have never been my style, I'll also cast a vote for Etrian Odyssey. It's grindy like a mother, but the character customization and overall high difficulty will keep you enthralled for a long time.
Jeanne D'arc (SRPG)
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions (SRPG - best game ever?)
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core (ARPG - wow this is a lot of fun)
Mario and Luigi - Partners in Time (JRPG with humor and fun action combat elements)
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness (SRPG - haven't played it but heard it was great)
Tales of Eternia (2D actiony JRPG)
..all of that was PSP except for Mario and Luigi.. which is DS.
By who? I thought people just played it because it was the only RPG out at the time.
There are people who seem to have a bafflingly higher opinion of it than this.
All I know is that even when there was nothing else out, I found the dialogue too moronically tedious to bother.
Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime is, to my mind, the best portable RPG out there.
Well, that depends what the definition of "RPG" is. Really, this game is closer to something like Zelda. However, that said, it is an incredibly good game.
By who? I thought people just played it because it was the only RPG out at the time.
Golden Sun isn't a great RPG, but it isn't terrible either. Personally I think it was played because it was the only RPG out for GBA at the time. I did enjoy it for what it was though.
Crisis Core is one of the best games you will play ever. Not just on the PSP... on any system.
You can't go wrong with the Mario and Luigi RPGs either, those are good fun and pretty humorous as well.
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops is very similar to RPGs in a way and I've seen it described as "Pokemon with guns" by a reviewer some where. (I've not played a lot into it, but it can last a long time doing the side quests I believe.)
Puzzle Quest is really good, and the battles are fun enough that they could make a game just based on them, without the RPG elements of the game.
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I want to step in for a minute in Puzzle Quest's defense here. Now, I absolutely hate Bejewelled. HATE it. And I think that the RPG elements of Puzzle Quest, in and of themselves, are ridiculously weak. Yet somehow, together, they just work. Really well. Like, "I can't stop playing" really well. To quote an old friend of mine, "It's like slamming together a dead baby and a retarded puppy to form Voltron".
On a side note, that quote was originally used to describe the "You Remind Me of Someday" Nickelback remix.
I think Puzzle Quest is great, though I probably would rather play it on the PC/360 than on a portable; it's rare that I'd rather play a game on a portable when I have access to it on a console/PC.
I just thought lewiep's comment was funny and felt it needed some attention.
EDIT: I should clarify. Under no circumtances whatsoever should anyone buy Puzzle Quest for the Wii ever. For any reason. Period. They, amazingly, managed to ruin the game. How, you ask? Controlling it with the wiimote, a seemingly ideal proposition, is akin to stabbing yourself in the eye.
Etrian Odyssey is pretty much the best RPG on any portable system out right now.
If you like more actiony stuff, go with the Mega Man Battle Network (GBA) games, or its spiritual successor, Mega Man Star Force (DS). I find MMBN to be better, though.
Also try the GBA Fire Emblems - as well as Advance Wars.
(Insofar as Golden Sun is concerned, the inane dialogue drags down the game, but it's balanced out by some of the best dungeon design in any RPG, ever.)
Disgaea makes grinding quite fun, since the game is really set up for people to do it. It's not like you *can* grind at low levels in order to progress easier, but that you *should* grind. And battles are quick and fun, which is rare for an SRPG.
Yeah, I'd stick with PSP SRPGs for a boring summer job. They're perfect for eating up time.
Puzzle Quest is really good, and the battles are fun enough that they could make a game just based on them, without the RPG elements of the game.
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I want to step in for a minute in Puzzle Quest's defense here. Now, I absolutely hate Bejewelled. HATE it. And I think that the RPG elements of Puzzle Quest, in and of themselves, are ridiculously weak. Yet somehow, together, they just work. Really well. Like, "I can't stop playing" really well. To quote an old friend of mine, "It's like slamming together a dead baby and a retarded puppy to form Voltron".
On a side note, that quote was originally used to describe the "You Remind Me of Someday" Nickelback remix.
Indeed Puzzle Quest really is fantastic, I was not being 100% sarcastic. I really like RPGs where skill at combat has as big an impact on how successful you are as strategic planing (see also Deus Ex and the Paper Mario games)
Another vote for Riviera (PSP remake or GBA original). It plays more like a Choose Your Own Adventure than your typical RPG, with a fun story and characters. Oh, and a light dating sim element, though that's limited to how much of an asshole / how nice you are to your party members.
I think Puzzle Quest is great, though I probably would rather play it on the PC/360 than on a portable; it's rare that I'd rather play a game on a portable when I have access to it on a console/PC.
I just thought lewiep's comment was funny and felt it needed some attention.
EDIT: I should clarify. Under no circumtances whatsoever should anyone buy Puzzle Quest for the Wii ever. For any reason. Period. They, amazingly, managed to ruin the game. How, you ask? Controlling it with the wiimote, a seemingly ideal proposition, is akin to stabbing yourself in the eye.
In fact it'd probably play better that way.
On the flip side, in my eyes Puzzle Quest lives and breathes on a portable but lies chained to a console system. When you have those long, drawn-out battles, you can bring them with you and close and open the lid of your DS at any point. When I was in the worst grips of Puzzle Quest Fever, I don't think I actually turned my DS off for about three weeks—it was always put to sleep, and then if I wanted to play something else instead, I'd open the DS, see my existing game, think "Oh, just a few more turns" and lose another 45 minutes of my life. It's the perfect work/class game, since you can just leave it open on your desk and pick at it whenever you want.
EDIT: Oh, and hell yes to Rocket Slime recommendations. The game is really easy, but it's just a lot of fun.
Above suggestions are all good IMO, though I wanted to give some props to Brave Story. It's not a horrible game, but I can see how a veteran of many JRPG's will have a hard time getting too far into it. It follows the classic JRPG formulae, but it does it well and the game is very easy on the eyes (which I find helps some with the grindy bits, it's more tolerable to me if it's at least nice to watch). But if you're burnt out on the JRPG formulae, this would be a bad choice, if you love it however, this is a good pick.
Etrian Odyssey is everything that was awesome about the game designs of the early 80s, everything that was awesome about the graphics and music of the early 90s, and everything that is awesome about portable games on the DS. But if you need story, play something else. It may feel scrotum-crushingly difficult at the beginning, but it's really not once you get into it. Plus it's like Puzzle Quest in that you won't need another DS game for at least a solid month.
The best SRPGs you can play on a DS are still the GBA Fire Emblem games (Luminous Arc entertained me, but it's really pretty mediocre, and Front Mission feels like a lazy port). For PSP the best have already been named (Jeanne d'Arc, FFT, Disgaea). The only traditional RPG I've tried on PSP is Brave Story: New Traveler, and despite the generally positive reviews, I give it a resounding meh; it feels like a shining example of "JRPGs are all the same" syndrome. These days my wife has the PSP most of the time to play Patapon, anyway.
edit: Clearly Yoshua read my mind while I was writing this post.
Above suggestions are all good IMO, though I wanted to give some props to Brave Story. It's not a horrible game, but I can see how a veteran of many JRPG's will have a hard time getting too far into it. It follows the classic JRPG formulae, but it does it well and the game is very easy on the eyes (which I find helps some with the grindy bits, it's more tolerable to me if it's at least nice to watch). But if you're burnt out on the JRPG formulae, this would be a bad choice, if you love it however, this is a good pick.
It also has a really quick battle system with minimal load times, which is key. But I generally agree with this assessment, even though I lean on the "burned out on JRPG tropes" side of the fence. I would have loved it when I was younger and dove headfirst into any and all JRPGs, and the battle system has a very Chrono Trigger vibe to it, but when I rented it last year I just felt like I had played the game dozens of times before.
Does anyone have any good PSP RPG suggestions that AREN'T Final Fantasy or Jeanne D'Arc? I'm already looking into Etrian Oddysey, and waiting for Star Ocean to drop.
Anyone know Star Ocean's release date? I can't search for it from work.
No love for Nethack (DS or PSP)? Complete with eye- hurting graphics, although the tiles do help alleviate the problem. Oh no, wait, they hurt the eye too...
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That could last anyone awhile.
Crisis Core is a fun action-rpg game, and its pretty long. I'm 12 and a half hours in and haven't beaten it yet, and I"m rushing through for the story.
Disgaea is a GRINDAN srpg that can keep you busy for a long time.
Well, the music is good (though you will fast tire of the combat theme), and most of the party character portraits look fucking ridiculous; you might get some giggles out of that. Not twenty dollars worth of giggles, though.
BORIS: Hey FRANK we need to board a boat.
LILITH: We need to board a boat to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We should find a boat.
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* Or find someone with a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* Where can we find someone with a boat?
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* What am I going to do with my boat?
*SCREEN FILLED WITH EMOTES!*
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK that man has a boat.
LILITH: Excuse me sir do you have a boat?
HORTENCE: We have to cross the sea.
BORIS: We can cross the sea in a boat.
LILITH: We need a boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* I have a boat.
BORIS: *EMOTE* FRANK he has a boat.
LILITH: Can we borrow your boat?
HORTENCE: We need your boat to cross the sea.
BOAT MAN: *EMOTE* But there are monsters!
LILITH: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
BORIS: Monsters?
BOAT MAN: Monsters!
HORTENCE: *EMOTE* We can kill those monsters right, FRANK?
[Dialogue options:] Yes / No. If no, get chastised by party and go to yes.
The core game has not changed since Pokémon Red/Blue. If you've played one, you've played them all.
Back when I started studying Japanese, I played Golden Sun on import.
Anyway, Etrian Odyssey is very good. I'd stay away from Final Fantasy Revenant Wings. If I had a PSP I would be playing Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War, Disgaea PSP or Jeanne D'Arc.
Anyway, good game. Unless you're a completist... because this game has alot of... go this way or that way? Either way, you'll never be able to go the other way again!
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Its not so much the quantity as it is that utter triteness and inanity of it.
And the end boss in the first game? Forget about it.
Do it.
Then FFVI for GBA, FFIII for DS, FFI+II for PSP/GBA, Crisis Core again, Crisis Core a third time.
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And I would never willing submit any of my friends to either of the Golden Sun games in this day and age. A lot of people say good things about Brave Story for PSP but I found my reactions similar to both Golden Suns in that I just can't stomach the monotony and predictability anymore; it dances the fine line between "classic" and "cliche." You're better off checking out FF5 or 6 GBA and waiting for the DS version of FF4, which will have the battle-system glitches fixed up so the game is somewhat challenging again. For roguelikes, a ton of people have been excited about Shiren the Wanderer—and though Wizardry-likes have never been my style, I'll also cast a vote for Etrian Odyssey. It's grindy like a mother, but the character customization and overall high difficulty will keep you enthralled for a long time.
Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions (SRPG - best game ever?)
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core (ARPG - wow this is a lot of fun)
Mario and Luigi - Partners in Time (JRPG with humor and fun action combat elements)
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness (SRPG - haven't played it but heard it was great)
Tales of Eternia (2D actiony JRPG)
..all of that was PSP except for Mario and Luigi.. which is DS.
Golden Sun is badly, badly overrated.
By who? I thought people just played it because it was the only RPG out at the time.
There are people who seem to have a bafflingly higher opinion of it than this.
All I know is that even when there was nothing else out, I found the dialogue too moronically tedious to bother.
Well, that depends what the definition of "RPG" is. Really, this game is closer to something like Zelda. However, that said, it is an incredibly good game.
Golden Sun isn't a great RPG, but it isn't terrible either. Personally I think it was played because it was the only RPG out for GBA at the time. I did enjoy it for what it was though.
Crisis Core is one of the best games you will play ever. Not just on the PSP... on any system.
You can't go wrong with the Mario and Luigi RPGs either, those are good fun and pretty humorous as well.
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops is very similar to RPGs in a way and I've seen it described as "Pokemon with guns" by a reviewer some where. (I've not played a lot into it, but it can last a long time doing the side quests I believe.)
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I want to step in for a minute in Puzzle Quest's defense here. Now, I absolutely hate Bejewelled. HATE it. And I think that the RPG elements of Puzzle Quest, in and of themselves, are ridiculously weak. Yet somehow, together, they just work. Really well. Like, "I can't stop playing" really well. To quote an old friend of mine, "It's like slamming together a dead baby and a retarded puppy to form Voltron".
On a side note, that quote was originally used to describe the "You Remind Me of Someday" Nickelback remix.
I just thought lewiep's comment was funny and felt it needed some attention.
EDIT: I should clarify. Under no circumtances whatsoever should anyone buy Puzzle Quest for the Wii ever. For any reason. Period. They, amazingly, managed to ruin the game. How, you ask? Controlling it with the wiimote, a seemingly ideal proposition, is akin to stabbing yourself in the eye.
In fact it'd probably play better that way.
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If you like more actiony stuff, go with the Mega Man Battle Network (GBA) games, or its spiritual successor, Mega Man Star Force (DS). I find MMBN to be better, though.
Also try the GBA Fire Emblems - as well as Advance Wars.
(Insofar as Golden Sun is concerned, the inane dialogue drags down the game, but it's balanced out by some of the best dungeon design in any RPG, ever.)
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Yeah, I'd stick with PSP SRPGs for a boring summer job. They're perfect for eating up time.
Indeed Puzzle Quest really is fantastic, I was not being 100% sarcastic. I really like RPGs where skill at combat has as big an impact on how successful you are as strategic planing (see also Deus Ex and the Paper Mario games)
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On the flip side, in my eyes Puzzle Quest lives and breathes on a portable but lies chained to a console system. When you have those long, drawn-out battles, you can bring them with you and close and open the lid of your DS at any point. When I was in the worst grips of Puzzle Quest Fever, I don't think I actually turned my DS off for about three weeks—it was always put to sleep, and then if I wanted to play something else instead, I'd open the DS, see my existing game, think "Oh, just a few more turns" and lose another 45 minutes of my life. It's the perfect work/class game, since you can just leave it open on your desk and pick at it whenever you want.
EDIT: Oh, and hell yes to Rocket Slime recommendations. The game is really easy, but it's just a lot of fun.
The best SRPGs you can play on a DS are still the GBA Fire Emblem games (Luminous Arc entertained me, but it's really pretty mediocre, and Front Mission feels like a lazy port). For PSP the best have already been named (Jeanne d'Arc, FFT, Disgaea). The only traditional RPG I've tried on PSP is Brave Story: New Traveler, and despite the generally positive reviews, I give it a resounding meh; it feels like a shining example of "JRPGs are all the same" syndrome. These days my wife has the PSP most of the time to play Patapon, anyway.
edit: Clearly Yoshua read my mind while I was writing this post.
It also has a really quick battle system with minimal load times, which is key. But I generally agree with this assessment, even though I lean on the "burned out on JRPG tropes" side of the fence. I would have loved it when I was younger and dove headfirst into any and all JRPGs, and the battle system has a very Chrono Trigger vibe to it, but when I rented it last year I just felt like I had played the game dozens of times before.
Anyone know Star Ocean's release date? I can't search for it from work.