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ElkiElki get busyModerator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
edited April 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Location: A shitty no title city that booed Santa, in a hellhole of a state


Network: ABC


Time: 8:00 P.M. EDT - 7:00 P.M. CDT / 8:00 P.M. PDT. Yes, there's a tapedelay for the West Coast. Enjoy that with your coffee, assholes.


Candidates:

Barack Obama
Hillary Clinton


Moderators: Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos


Webstream: idono



This is not the general primaries thread. General primaries talk goes here.

If general primaries talk does not go there, and ends up here, I will be cross.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Barack should just be limed and be done with it. Come on Elki.

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  • TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm pleased enough that Hillary was salmoned.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Have the audacity to dream.

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    More like
    There will be Mud...
    slinging.
    Slinging of mud.
    As in attacks on each others character. I'm here all thread folks.

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    agoaj wrote: »
    More like
    There will be Mud...
    slinging.
    Slinging of mud.
    As in attacks on each others character. I'm here all thread folks.

    You and Tim Buckley, apparently.

    Edit: Buckley is now a verb, because I said so.

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  • RendonRendon Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I think it is great how the dems are busy ripping themselves apart. This whole thing is going to give us at least 4 more years of republicans in the white house. And with the senate/house under dem control, at least 2 more years where nothing can get done. I am in full support of the fed government not being able to do shit.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Is Hil going to come out swinging again?

    Last time it got her booed right?

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm taking the safe bet: Clinton tries to stump early with a canned attack line that has nothing to do with the question asked. Obama does not go offense until Clinton's let loose.

    Additionally, There Will Be Pander. I fully expect a certain someone to promise the state tons of jobs. Green Collar ones that will somehow turn every state in the union into wonderful places and make every American citizen rich.

    Also, about half the debate to focus on nitpicking over healthcare.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    It would be hilarious if they just brought back, say, Dodd, and never once explained what he was doing there.

    Do we know how long this debate will be? And how are these two for moderators? Have they even done any debates this cycle?

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    EmperorSeth wrote: »
    It would be hilarious if they just brought back, say, Dodd, and never once explained what he was doing there.

    Do we know how long this debate will be? And how are these two for moderators? Have they even done any debates this cycle?

    [Gravel enters stage left]

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    EmperorSeth wrote: »
    It would be hilarious if they just brought back, say, Dodd, and never once explained what he was doing there.

    Maybe kidnap Gore and bring him in. Keep him tied up, and just take the duct tape off his mouth when he's asked a question.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I hope Gibby doesn't go all 'gotcha' again with the candidates like he did at the double header debate in ages long past. It doesn't actually get more info on the candidates or their positions out there and just feeds into the gaffe obsessions.

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  • Pants ManPants Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    so where is the debate?

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  • TachTach Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    kildy wrote: »
    EmperorSeth wrote: »
    It would be hilarious if they just brought back, say, Dodd, and never once explained what he was doing there.

    Do we know how long this debate will be? And how are these two for moderators? Have they even done any debates this cycle?

    [Gravel enters stage left]

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    How much relevance will this debate actually have?

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  • JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    There will be some idiotic question about religion and bitterness, and hopefully Obama will knock it out of the park. Other than that there will probably be a lot of answers starting with, "Well, I agree with my opponent, but..."

    Basically a pointless debate except that it provides another chance for Obama to commit a gaffe and for Clinton to capitalize it. It's essentially Obama's to lose.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    So, how long does Hilary spend talking about health care after they tell her to shut up about it?

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
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    Here's hoping we can get some different topics, like gun control, more specifics on bailouts, or any number of social issues.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited April 2008
    Rendon wrote: »
    at least 2 more years where nothing can get done. I am in full support of the fed government not being able to do shit.
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    Yeah, that sure would be totally awesome.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    Location: A shitty no title city that booed Santa
    He had it coming

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    I'm suprised Hillary agreed to this at all. Don't her number go down after a debate? Like, every debate? Obama's already within striking distance of her in PA, and this debate could put him over the top.

    At least it's on ABC, so I can watch it from the comfort of my own home.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Rendon wrote: »
    I think it is great how the dems are busy ripping themselves apart. This whole thing is going to give us at least 4 more years of republicans in the white house. And with the senate/house under dem control, at least 2 more years where nothing can get done. I am in full support of the fed government not being able to do shit.

    This has nothing to do with the debate and is also really dumb.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Tarranon wrote: »
    I'm pleased enough that Hillary was salmoned.

    And Comic Sans'd.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Bionic Monkey wrote: »
    I'm suprised Hillary agreed to this at all. Don't her number go down after a debate? Like, every debate? Obama's already within striking distance of her in PA, and this debate could put him over the top.

    At least it's on ABC, so I can watch it from the comfort of my own home.

    Like it really matters? She's going to throw as much shit against the wall as possible and hope something sticks.

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    5 bucks says Hillary turns every question into a health care rant, causing once again a retreading of the minute differences between each oth their plans and her insistance that the inferiority of his plan will cause the end of modern society as we know it.

    Also I expect Wright to make an appearance even though the news has pretty much phased out on him simply because it hasn't been mentioned in a debate yet and would provide for an easy gotcha for pinhead moderators. Same with Bosnia snipers. pew pew pew.

    So, IRC channel, too? I forgot the name of the channel, it's been so long.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    I doubt she'll harp on health care issues. She's going to tailor her message to Pennsylvanians. I'm expecting a lot of shit about creating Green Collar Jobs, how much she loves God 'n' Guns, and how PA'ers aren't bitter.

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  • kildykildy Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    and how PA'ers aren't bitter.

    Has she ever actually READ these forums!? D:

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    tonight right?

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  • AS_hellionAS_hellion Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    5 bucks says Hillary turns every question into a health care rant, causing once again a retreading of the minute differences between each oth their plans and her insistance that the inferiority of his plan will cause the end of modern society as we know it.

    Also I expect Wright to make an appearance even though the news has pretty much phased out on him simply because it hasn't been mentioned in a debate yet and would provide for an easy gotcha for pinhead moderators. Same with Bosnia snipers. pew pew pew.

    So, IRC channel, too? I forgot the name of the channel, it's been so long.

    Seeing her not answer her question and change the topic back to healthcare in the last debate I saw was just painful. I'm sure she'll do it again, since she wants to run as the healthcare candidate. I am hoping that Wright wont be mentioned, but I am holding my breath.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I would like to just say that I hate all of you for being able to watch this while I'm going to be stuck in class.

    I'm predicting...
    -canned lines about Wright
    -canned lines about bitterness that don't go over well
    -canned lines about Obama attacking her like Karl Rove
    -her starting most answers with "well, y'know..." and looking down in the distance

    Oh yeah, and I'm predicting a lot of uncomfortable smiling from HRC when things aren't going well for her.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

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  • AS_hellionAS_hellion Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    enlightenedbum wrote: »
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

    We could also make it some sort of Obama smear bingo. You know could be on there, though it would get filled pretty quickly.

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  • RaggaholicRaggaholic Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    AS_hellion wrote: »
    enlightenedbum wrote: »
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

    We could also make it some sort of Obama smear bingo. You know could be on there, though it would get filled pretty quickly.

    There is one of Fark that's pretty good. It wouldn't be good for the debates, though, as it has "flag pin" and things like that on it.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    AS_hellion wrote: »
    enlightenedbum wrote: »
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

    We could also make it some sort of Obama smear bingo. You know could be on there, though it would get filled pretty quickly.

    I think "you know" would be the free space in the center.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    enlightenedbum wrote: »
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

    Same with 'well look' for Obama.

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  • SithDrummerSithDrummer Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Raggaholic wrote: »
    I would like to just say that I hate all of you for being able to watch this while I'm going to be stuck in class.

    I'm predicting...
    -canned lines about Wright
    -canned lines about bitterness that don't go over well
    -canned lines about Obama attacking her like Karl Rove
    -her starting most answers with "well, y'know..." and looking down in the distance

    Oh yeah, and I'm predicting a lot of uncomfortable smiling from HRC when things aren't going well for her.
    Oh my God, if somehow we are lucky enough to get another "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" response, I will be overjoyed.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    moniker wrote: »
    enlightenedbum wrote: »
    Someone should do a "you know" count tonight. Every time she lies or misleads to attack Obama, she says "you know" at least twice in the sentence.

    Same with 'well look' for Obama.

    Code for: "God, you're retarded woman, here's what I said, stop lying. Jesus."

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Stupid fucking popes and their favoring warmongering presidents because they'd rather wipe out some countries than let the gays breathe the same air as them!

    *Is a confirmed Catholic because parents are. The universe is 14 billion years old and I think intelligence tests should be taken before reproduction.*

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    SithDrummer wrote: »
    Raggaholic wrote: »
    I would like to just say that I hate all of you for being able to watch this while I'm going to be stuck in class.

    I'm predicting...
    -canned lines about Wright
    -canned lines about bitterness that don't go over well
    -canned lines about Obama attacking her like Karl Rove
    -her starting most answers with "well, y'know..." and looking down in the distance

    Oh yeah, and I'm predicting a lot of uncomfortable smiling from HRC when things aren't going well for her.
    Oh my God, if somehow we are lucky enough to get another "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" response, I will be overjoyed.

    I really hope she cackles madly at some point. That would be glorious.

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  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Cantido wrote: »
    Stupid fucking popes and their favoring warmongering presidents because they'd rather wipe out some countries than let the gays breathe the same air as them!

    *Is a confirmed Catholic because parents are. The universe is 14 billion years old and I think intelligence tests should be taken before reproduction.*

    Umm, the Vatican went to great lengths to put space between itself and Bush on the eve of the Iraq war because they knew it was going to be messy and, at best, bad for christians in Iraq. (A high ranking bishop was kidnapped and killed just last month, IIRC, on top of, you know, everybody else.) So...:|

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