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Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited May 2006
    I just finished it.

    That was pretty damned good.


    And the music is awesome.

    New Game SP here I come!

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2006
    I just opened a secret mission called The Gauntlet. I don't think I have the energy for it.

    [spoiler:1dd93cbe0b]Story: none.
    Location: The Round Table.
    Mission: Destroy EVERY Ace gang.
    Time Limit: 30 minutes.[/spoiler:1dd93cbe0b]

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  • SolSol Registered User
    edited May 2006
    Cantido wrote:
    I just opened a secret mission called The Gauntlet. I don't think I have the energy for it.

    [spoiler:90a9c85021]Story: none.
    Location: The Round Table.
    Mission: Destroy EVERY Ace gang.
    Time Limit: 30 minutes.[/spoiler:90a9c85021]

    [spoiler:90a9c85021] On the Ace difficulty if you beat the Espada squadron really fast the last squadron will be replaced by a pilot named "Mobius" who pilots an F-22.....what follows will be the toughest dogfight in the world.[/spoiler:90a9c85021]

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2006
    Are those the green targets? I did finish on Ace and I always ignore them after I fuck up Espada. I'm usually busy trying to blow up the XB-O before time runs out.

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  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited May 2006
    So I finally found an intact copy of Ace Combat 2 at my local EB the other day. The difference between these last two games and the first two is absolutely astounding. Hell, the difference between AC2 and 3 is pretty huge by itself.
    Sol wrote:
    Cantido wrote:
    I just opened a secret mission called The Gauntlet. I don't think I have the energy for it.

    [spoiler:b3b0be3507]Story: none.
    Location: The Round Table.
    Mission: Destroy EVERY Ace gang.
    Time Limit: 30 minutes.[/spoiler:b3b0be3507]

    [spoiler:b3b0be3507] On the Ace difficulty if you beat the Espada squadron really fast the last squadron will be replaced by a pilot named "Mobius" who pilots an F-22.....what follows will be the toughest dogfight in the world.[/spoiler:b3b0be3507]
    Mobius... isn't he the guy you play as in AC5's arcade mode?

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    edited May 2006
    "Shack on target" is slang for a good hit on a ground target. they didn't make it up

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  • SolSol Registered User
    edited May 2006
    Cantido wrote:
    Are those the green targets? I did finish on Ace and I always ignore them after I fuck up Espada. I'm usually busy trying to blow up the XB-O before time runs out.

    I'm talking in The Gauntlet.

    and Kaputa: Yes, but he's better known for the awesome pilot which is the protagonist of AC04

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  • KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    edited May 2006
    Sol wrote:
    Cantido wrote:
    Are those the green targets? I did finish on Ace and I always ignore them after I fuck up Espada. I'm usually busy trying to blow up the XB-O before time runs out.

    I'm talking in The Gauntlet.

    and Kaputa: Yes, but he's better known for the awesome pilot which is the protagonist of AC04
    Oh, I wasn't aware that he was the same guy. I really need to replay AC4, I only had the time to do it once before it got stolen with my first PS2. That was such a sad.

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  • ObstSkwerlObstSkwerl Registered User
    edited May 2006
    Just finished the game again in expert [spoiler:281a862f41] pixy [/spoiler:281a862f41] and the god damned [spoiler:281a862f41] burst missile + laser [/spoiler:281a862f41] were all one hit kill :(

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  • MachismoMachismo Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    So, is this game worth getting? I saw it in the store, used. Looked sweet. I enjoyed Ace Combat 3. I played it on an easier mode though as I was completely served on the harder difficulties.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Machismo wrote:
    So, is this game worth getting? I saw it in the store, used. Looked sweet. I enjoyed Ace Combat 3. I played it on an easier mode though as I was completely served on the harder difficulties.
    I'd say so. 4, 5, and Zero are all great games.

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  • SolSol Registered User
    edited September 2006
    Machismo wrote:
    So, is this game worth getting? I saw it in the store, used. Looked sweet. I enjoyed Ace Combat 3. I played it on an easier mode though as I was completely served on the harder difficulties.

    Of course it is.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2006
    I may one day buy the entire PS2 Ace Combat catalogue as a final hurrah to the ol' peestoo.

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited September 2006
    I was actually on my way to Best Buy this morning to pick this up along with Ace Combat 5. My collection has swollen immensely in this past month, but I couldn't be happier with it. Those screenshots of Zero look so fucking amazing. I can't wait to dive into it. Should I get 5 out of the way first, though?

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  • TobyToby Registered User
    edited September 2006
    One week left until we finally get it here in New Zealand. Can't wait.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    defrag wrote:
    I was actually on my way to Best Buy this morning to pick this up along with Ace Combat 5. My collection has swollen immensely in this past month, but I couldn't be happier with it. Those screenshots of Zero look so fucking amazing. I can't wait to dive into it. Should I get 5 out of the way first, though?
    Zero is a short game. I think it's worth it if you're a fan of the series though. So if you want to beat a game relatively quickly, pop in Zero first. 5 will take you longer to beat than Zero.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Renzo wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    I was actually on my way to Best Buy this morning to pick this up along with Ace Combat 5. My collection has swollen immensely in this past month, but I couldn't be happier with it. Those screenshots of Zero look so fucking amazing. I can't wait to dive into it. Should I get 5 out of the way first, though?
    Zero is a short game. I think it's worth it if you're a fan of the series though. So if you want to beat a game relatively quickly, pop in Zero first. 5 will take you longer to beat than Zero.

    Reviews have said that the story for Zero is "meh." I really loved the story of 5, and the idea of interviewing "aces" seems interesting. What's the verdict around here?

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    PunkBoy wrote:
    Renzo wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    I was actually on my way to Best Buy this morning to pick this up along with Ace Combat 5. My collection has swollen immensely in this past month, but I couldn't be happier with it. Those screenshots of Zero look so fucking amazing. I can't wait to dive into it. Should I get 5 out of the way first, though?
    Zero is a short game. I think it's worth it if you're a fan of the series though. So if you want to beat a game relatively quickly, pop in Zero first. 5 will take you longer to beat than Zero.

    Reviews have said that the story for Zero is "meh." I really loved the story of 5, and the idea of interviewing "aces" seems interesting. What's the verdict around here?
    I thought it was alright. The live action cutscenes were a little cheesy, but it fits with the melodrama of the rest of the game. I think the real strength of Zero is in replays. In order to see all the rival aces, you have to play the game at least three times.

    For comparison's sake, I like the story of the games in this order: 4>5>Zero. Still, all three games have some fucking great moments that make the purchases worth it.

    The final battle of Zero is worth the price of admission alone.

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  • PredatorPredator __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2006
    trading in ace combat 2 four years ago was the dumbest thing I've ever done D:

    God I played the shit out of that game.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Renzo wrote:
    PunkBoy wrote:
    Renzo wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    I was actually on my way to Best Buy this morning to pick this up along with Ace Combat 5. My collection has swollen immensely in this past month, but I couldn't be happier with it. Those screenshots of Zero look so fucking amazing. I can't wait to dive into it. Should I get 5 out of the way first, though?
    Zero is a short game. I think it's worth it if you're a fan of the series though. So if you want to beat a game relatively quickly, pop in Zero first. 5 will take you longer to beat than Zero.

    Reviews have said that the story for Zero is "meh." I really loved the story of 5, and the idea of interviewing "aces" seems interesting. What's the verdict around here?
    I thought it was alright. The live action cutscenes were a little cheesy, but it fits with the melodrama of the rest of the game. I think the real strength of Zero is in replays. In order to see all the rival aces, you have to play the game at least three times.

    For comparison's sake, I like the story of the games in this order: 4>5>Zero. Still, all three games have some fucking great moments that make the purchases worth it.

    The final battle of Zero is worth the price of admission alone.

    That reminds me, I need to pick up 4 as well as Zero...

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    MegoDrDoom wrote:
    Drallo wrote:
    I've never played an AC game, but I can say I'm very excited for this.

    For the love of god and all that is holy, go buy AC4. It is way worth the $20

    I've never played any either - should I start with 4 or look for the earlier games? This sounds crazy fun.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    MegoDrDoom wrote:
    Drallo wrote:
    I've never played an AC game, but I can say I'm very excited for this.

    For the love of god and all that is holy, go buy AC4. It is way worth the $20

    I've never played any either - should I start with 4 or look for the earlier games? This sounds crazy fun.

    Just picked up 4. It feels different than 5, but I'm really liking it.

    Spoilers about 2 missions:

    [spoiler:5d026fa200] The strike against Stonehenge was awesome, but the end of the mission where you kill Yellow 4 made the victory bitter for me. I felt bad easily taking down a damaged plane. I was suprised that in the mission "Escort" one of the civillian pilots is "Nagase" with the same voice actress as the one in 5. Kinda interesting that the debriefing states that the families on the planes were given amnesty by various countries...I wonder if it also applied to the pilots...[/spoiler:5d026fa200]

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  • BornToHulaBornToHula Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    MegoDrDoom wrote:
    Drallo wrote:
    I've never played an AC game, but I can say I'm very excited for this.

    For the love of god and all that is holy, go buy AC4. It is way worth the $20

    I've never played any either - should I start with 4 or look for the earlier games? This sounds crazy fun.

    AC4 is a great starting place, it's the series' high point in my opinion. That said the three PS2 ones are excellent starting points as almost all of them are standalone. However, AC4 is regarded as easily the best, with the latter two following shortly behind.

    I think you can pick up AC4 and AC5 for like thirty something dollars now. They are well worth it though.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA
    edited September 2006
    Ruiner999 wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    MegoDrDoom wrote:
    Drallo wrote:
    I've never played an AC game, but I can say I'm very excited for this.

    For the love of god and all that is holy, go buy AC4. It is way worth the $20

    I've never played any either - should I start with 4 or look for the earlier games? This sounds crazy fun.

    AC4 is a great starting place, it's the series' high point in my opinion. That said the three PS2 ones are excellent starting points as almost all of them are standalone. However, AC4 is regarded as easily the best, with the latter two following shortly behind.

    I think you can pick up AC4 and AC5 for like thirty something dollars now. They are well worth it though.

    Myself, I found AC5 to be about a million times better than the first half of AC4. I only played the first half as I found it dead boring compared to 5.

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited September 2006
    So I just got both 5 and Zero the other day. I popped 5 in and immediately blew through the first five missions without stopping. It's fucking awesome.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited September 2006
    I just beat 4 for the first time and am going through another run. Lot's of fun. But I do feel the story of 5 was better. 4's story was really good, though.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited September 2006
    I thought 5's story was pretty lame, personally, but I'm not into anime which could explain it. I loved 4 as it felt fairly realistic to me and I felt I was the one making a difference, not some generic character that disappears during cutscenes. I haven't played Zero yet, mainly because I had such high hopes for 5 and it kind of took the wind out of my sails. I should probably buy it, since I believe I saw it for $20 now. I should give 5 another playthrough, though, since I bought the set with the flightstick around Christmas time and haven't tried it with 5 yet.

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited October 2006
    I just finished 5 last night.

    I agree with Carcass on a few things. Mainly just that it sucks to be a disappearing character in the cutscenes, but I didn't think that it bogged down the story too much. One thing I would've liked to see:

    [spoiler:dd343f9c08]A bit more development of the rivalry with you and Hamilton. I pretty much ignored him during the "Death Star run" level, and I wasn't exactly motivated when he died. He was a pretty generic nemesis, I thought. All in all, though, that level was really fun despite being initially frustrating.[/spoiler:dd343f9c08]

    The mission variety in 5 was pretty good, I felt. I really enjoyed the boss-style battles.

    On to Zero!

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    defrag wrote:
    I just finished 5 last night.

    I agree with Carcass on a few things. Mainly just that it sucks to be a disappearing character in the cutscenes, but I didn't think that it bogged down the story too much. One thing I would've liked to see:

    [spoiler:78f366de2b]A bit more development of the rivalry with you and Hamilton. I pretty much ignored him during the "Death Star run" level, and I wasn't exactly motivated when he died. He was a pretty generic nemesis, I thought. All in all, though, that level was really fun despite being initially frustrating.[/spoiler:78f366de2b]

    The mission variety in 5 was pretty good, I felt. I really enjoyed the boss-style battles.

    On to Zero!

    [spoiler:78f366de2b] Yeah, I wished for more of a duel with Hamilton, kinda lame that he just dies on the way out. I did kind of had mixed feelings about his death, though. He did seem genuinely kind to Gennette. If the developers went along with that more, I think the character would have been better. Plus, I swear Blaze is the pilot Chopper is talking to in the briefing room cutscene at the beginning of the game. Or at least, I like to believe it's him.[/spoiler:78f366de2b]

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    4 felt way more epic than 5, but 5 had a lot of fun missions also. I loved Sea of Chaos. The music was just perfect.

    I'm also a sucker for ground assault levels. I love having lots of immobile targets to blow up.

    Ironically, I thought the final squad of those dozen-odd planes in AC5 were easier to take out than the Yellow Squadron from AC4, but maybe that was just because I had a solid lock on three of them before they even reached me.

    4's finale wins over 5's, but 5 was still great, and the story was deeper. (But AC4's still-only cutscenes were very classy. :^:)
    I also have to track down Zero now.

    Just out of curiosity, what were the first 3 AC games for? PSX?

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited October 2006
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:f266bb4db2]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:f266bb4db2]

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:09f5cfbc2a]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:09f5cfbc2a]

    [spoiler:09f5cfbc2a]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:09f5cfbc2a]

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    cj iwakura wrote:
    Just out of curiosity, what were the first 3 AC games for? PSX?
    Yea, but IIRC in America they cut out all the story and just called them Air Combat.
    I never played the third one. But apperantly the japanese version is based in the future(more so then the other games) and is amazing.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    cj iwakura wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:ab9a00abd9]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:ab9a00abd9]

    [spoiler:ab9a00abd9]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:ab9a00abd9]

    [spoiler:ab9a00abd9] There was a child on her lap reading the book she recreated.[/spoiler:ab9a00abd9]

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited October 2006
    cj iwakura wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:de67b4d756]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:de67b4d756]

    [spoiler:de67b4d756]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:de67b4d756]

    [spoiler:de67b4d756]I was under the impression that was her on the bench reading the Razgriz tale to a blonde kid on her lap. Could just have been me, though.[/spoiler:de67b4d756]

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    PunkBoy wrote:
    cj iwakura wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:58a0c19d38]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:58a0c19d38]

    [spoiler:58a0c19d38]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:58a0c19d38]

    [spoiler:58a0c19d38] There was a child on her lap reading the book she recreated.[/spoiler:58a0c19d38]
    [spoiler:58a0c19d38]I think it's pretty much assumed that it's Bartlett[/spoiler:58a0c19d38]

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  • Whiniest Man On EarthWhiniest Man On Earth Registered User
    edited October 2006
    why wrote:
    PunkBoy wrote:
    cj iwakura wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]

    [spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]

    [spoiler:4f6c2be2fe] There was a child on her lap reading the book she recreated.[/spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]
    [spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]I think it's pretty much assumed that it's Bartlett[/spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]

    [spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]Bartlett's not blonde, though, and the kid is. In fact, SO blonde that it's kind of hard to miss. I think they were going somewhere with that.[/spoiler:4f6c2be2fe]

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    You can find AC4 for less than $10 used. I've seen it for less than $5.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I shall say that, whatever arguements we have, we all agree that the entire series released up to this point on the PS2, are well worth the money.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    why wrote:
    PunkBoy wrote:
    cj iwakura wrote:
    defrag wrote:
    5's ending:

    [spoiler:595f7e4182]Who do you think is meant to have had a kid with Nagase at the end? I bloody well hope it isn't Blaze.[/spoiler:595f7e4182]

    [spoiler:595f7e4182]Nagase had a kid?[/spoiler:595f7e4182]

    [spoiler:595f7e4182] There was a child on her lap reading the book she recreated.[/spoiler:595f7e4182]
    [spoiler:595f7e4182]I think it's pretty much assumed that it's Bartlett[/spoiler:595f7e4182]

    [spoiler:595f7e4182] Bartlett? I thought he ended up with the Major. I personally believe she had the child with Blaze, but for some reason I think it's plausible that she ended up with Grimm. Really don't know why I think that, heh. [/spoiler:595f7e4182]

    EDIT: Haven't played Zero, but I agree with the above statement. Kinda stinks that I'm gonna have to shell out money for a PS3 to play the next gen Ace Combat. I really wish Namco would make it multi-platform. And I'm back to playing 4 again. I keep on humming the music that plays when you fight Yellow Squadron.

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