Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited May 2008
Remember when human rogues/warriors were the best, bar none, for PvE damage?
Munkus remembers.
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Holy shit Captain, I think it's gateway rift to the WoW boards in 2005! But can we close it!?
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited May 2008
I remember the day that I discovered that edgemaster's gauntlets were the best warrior gloves until AQ40.
And you still couldn't sell them for more than 40 gold.
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Stoneform is amazing for removing wound poison and for dwarf rogues to remove a rupture and reset the fight/gain an advantage in rogue vs rogue situations. WotF is great too, war stomp is cool, perception rocks, basically what I'm saying is everything has it's own situational use and awesomeness. Crazy, I know!
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edited May 2008
CRRRRRRAZY!
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Couple of interesting tidbits today. The first, and least interesting, is a small article talking about how Blizzard says there's no reason Conan and WAR can't suceed right alongside wow, and that they think WoW will eventually be surpassed at one point. Nice to know they haven't let success go to their heads. Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=140893
The second, and most interesting, is Blizzard talking about their thoughts on a graphical update for WoW.
Eurogamer: Do you think WOW is ever going to need a complete overhaul of the engine?
J. Allen Brack: That's actually something we talk about every expansion. It's interesting, two games have really tried that before, Ultima Online tried it and EverQuest tried it as well, and in each case it was only somewhat successful. In each case a lot of people continued to play with the original client, because it was faster, or they preferred it, or were just used to it or whatever. And so for me as a game developer, the idea that we would spend so much time and energy on something and have people go, "meh, that's not really for me," that's not very exciting.
So I don't think there's really a clear model as to how to do that successfully. The model we have with Wrath of the Lich King allows people with high-end machines some additional graphical effects, and then we'll have some kind of fallback for the people who don't. Will we need a graphical update from the ground up at some point? Yep, probably. And I'm positive we'll talk about it next expansion
wow... as all you guys jump up and QQ about how your horde racials are not overpowered, you forgot that blizzard is trying to turn this into an Esport
it kind of looks bad when people have to min/max and munchkin around racials too... thats why i bring this up
i kid you not when i say there are thousands of undead rogue/undead caster teams built to jump the CC time on fear teams... are fear teams that great in 2v2... probably not... ok great, then why so many undead?
id make the same claim about the tournament servers, but i dont think i have enough data yet besides what everyone is crying about in the forums that 3v3 is dominated by Undead Rogue, Undead mage, Undead priest
personally... i can see blizzard removing racials from arena soon... mark my words
Trolls weep a single lonely tear any time racial discussion comes up.
Berserking would be great if it had way, way shorter cooldown. In PvE, anyway.
And didn't cost energy/mana/rage.
That's the reason it has very limited use in PvP. I've found myself using AP trinket + berserking + SnD when I need to nuke down a healer, specifcally when I'm nuking a resto shammy, but I'm not sure if it's worth it even then. I just happen to have it in a macro with the trinket.
About resto druids, I play the rogue in a rogue+boomkin duo and for us, druid healers on the opposing team aren't that bad (but of course, that's compensated for by the fact that many other setups are stupidly difficult for us). In some fights (us vs. druid+hunter for example) the boomkin just goes into healing mode and has 50% mana left in the end when the restodruid is out. In warrior + druid fights we can generally keep the warrior under control while keeping pressure on the druid until he's dead. It seems rogue + boomkin is decent against almost all dps+healer duos, excluding the horror that is pally+hunter or pally+warrior. If we can't cripple or root or reliably cyclone them we're screwed.
Of course, we haven't played that many weeks with this setup (my arena experience before this has mostly been healing as a holypally in 3vs3 until it became horrible) and are still hovering between 1500-1600 so maybe this changes.
I don't know if it was true or not, but I remember reading a while back that using troll berserking as a rogue when you have full health actually lowers your dps or didn't actually increase it. The 10 energy was basically better spent elsewhere. No idea if that was true or not though.
I still think it's late summer early fall because they can patch in the end game yet again
For the record, they're pretty much said the final encounter with Arthas won't be patched in until much later.
I think he meant like the equivalent of patching in SSC/TK a few weeks or months after the expansion releases. Arthas isn't going to be patched in until the NEXT expansion is about to be released, like Kil'jaeden.
Also I keep wondering if at some point they'll just remove Sunwell Radiance, nice sweeping way to nerf the whole place without actually having to change any of the boss mechanics.
Couple of interesting tidbits today. The first, and least interesting, is a small article talking about how Blizzard says there's no reason Conan and WAR can't suceed right alongside wow, and that they think WoW will eventually be surpassed at one point. Nice to know they haven't let success go to their heads. Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=140893
The second, and most interesting, is Blizzard talking about their thoughts on a graphical update for WoW.
Eurogamer: Do you think WOW is ever going to need a complete overhaul of the engine?
J. Allen Brack: That's actually something we talk about every expansion. It's interesting, two games have really tried that before, Ultima Online tried it and EverQuest tried it as well, and in each case it was only somewhat successful. In each case a lot of people continued to play with the original client, because it was faster, or they preferred it, or were just used to it or whatever. And so for me as a game developer, the idea that we would spend so much time and energy on something and have people go, "meh, that's not really for me," that's not very exciting.
So I don't think there's really a clear model as to how to do that successfully. The model we have with Wrath of the Lich King allows people with high-end machines some additional graphical effects, and then we'll have some kind of fallback for the people who don't. Will we need a graphical update from the ground up at some point? Yep, probably. And I'm positive we'll talk about it next expansion
I used it once in a Mauradon pug. My groupmates starting talking about their fursuits and how their girlfriends weren't as into furry porn as they were and I was like "Okey Dokey! *turns off voicechat*"
most of the teams on tich rolled alliance for fear ward. Once fear ward was given to horde (and gnome escape artist cooldown doubled) most of the top teams rerolled or went back to horde Undead for the racials
i had completely forgot about fear ward proliferation
most of the teams on tich rolled alliance for fear ward. Once fear ward was given to horde (and gnome escape artist cooldown doubled) most of the top teams rerolled or went back to horde Undead for the racials
i had completely forgot about fear ward proliferation
Priest racials are still completely incomparable between factions. Desperate prayer needs a good nerfin'.
most of the teams on tich rolled alliance for fear ward. Once fear ward was given to horde (and gnome escape artist cooldown doubled) most of the top teams rerolled or went back to horde Undead for the racials
i had completely forgot about fear ward proliferation
Priest racials are still completely incomparable between factions. Desperate prayer needs a good nerfin'.
most of the teams on tich rolled alliance for fear ward. Once fear ward was given to horde (and gnome escape artist cooldown doubled) most of the top teams rerolled or went back to horde Undead for the racials
i had completely forgot about fear ward proliferation
Priest racials are still completely incomparable between factions. Desperate prayer needs a good nerfin'.
Eh, it did have it's use when it was channeled... Rank 1 to get that overzealous rogue or warrior to waste his cooldown silencing my Arcane Tree... That was always good for
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And you still couldn't sell them for more than 40 gold.
Trolls weep a single lonely tear any time racial discussion comes up.
Berserking would be great if it had way, way shorter cooldown. In PvE, anyway.
The second, and most interesting, is Blizzard talking about their thoughts on a graphical update for WoW.
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=140893
And didn't cost energy/mana/rage.
it kind of looks bad when people have to min/max and munchkin around racials too... thats why i bring this up
i kid you not when i say there are thousands of undead rogue/undead caster teams built to jump the CC time on fear teams... are fear teams that great in 2v2... probably not... ok great, then why so many undead?
id make the same claim about the tournament servers, but i dont think i have enough data yet besides what everyone is crying about in the forums that 3v3 is dominated by Undead Rogue, Undead mage, Undead priest
personally... i can see blizzard removing racials from arena soon... mark my words
Stop reminding me that that show was canned.
That's the reason it has very limited use in PvP. I've found myself using AP trinket + berserking + SnD when I need to nuke down a healer, specifcally when I'm nuking a resto shammy, but I'm not sure if it's worth it even then. I just happen to have it in a macro with the trinket.
About resto druids, I play the rogue in a rogue+boomkin duo and for us, druid healers on the opposing team aren't that bad (but of course, that's compensated for by the fact that many other setups are stupidly difficult for us). In some fights (us vs. druid+hunter for example) the boomkin just goes into healing mode and has 50% mana left in the end when the restodruid is out. In warrior + druid fights we can generally keep the warrior under control while keeping pressure on the druid until he's dead. It seems rogue + boomkin is decent against almost all dps+healer duos, excluding the horror that is pally+hunter or pally+warrior. If we can't cripple or root or reliably cyclone them we're screwed.
Of course, we haven't played that many weeks with this setup (my arena experience before this has mostly been healing as a holypally in 3vs3 until it became horrible) and are still hovering between 1500-1600 so maybe this changes.
You were reading it off the.... god damnit gnomer, you piss me off. You know better than to do this.
Source: http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/World-of-Warcraft-Wrath-of-the-Lich-King-PC/sem/rpsm/oid/211809/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
They have to make an estimate to get preorders in their system. If it's not posted by Blizzard you probably should ignore it.
I think he meant like the equivalent of patching in SSC/TK a few weeks or months after the expansion releases. Arthas isn't going to be patched in until the NEXT expansion is about to be released, like Kil'jaeden.
Also I keep wondering if at some point they'll just remove Sunwell Radiance, nice sweeping way to nerf the whole place without actually having to change any of the boss mechanics.
So why the fuck did they bother with VoIP? o_O
Haha, yeah.
/sigh
All the rogue hate going around?
Can not do that while stunned.
:winky:
most of the teams on tich rolled alliance for fear ward. Once fear ward was given to horde (and gnome escape artist cooldown doubled) most of the top teams rerolled or went back to horde Undead for the racials
i had completely forgot about fear ward proliferation
I don't know. Best helm in the game. I want a cloth one, damn it. Also :winky:.
Priest racials are still completely incomparable between factions. Desperate prayer needs a good nerfin'.
Don't make me Starshard you.
Didn't that used to be a channeled spell?
really, if all your hardcore douchebag opponents rerolled horde, why don't you do it snappy?
christ, the worst thing about the arena is that people think that they can somehow quantify their personal worth with some stupid rating