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Democratic Primaries: Pennsylvania, key hellhole state
Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
Wow, just as a huge Clinton hit job gets called for what it is ITT Wil proves himself to be a Hillary supporter!
Anyways, I wish people would stop lending Hillary money for the campaign if they know she's in the red and little to no chance of winning. I mean, if I was in her position my bank sure wouldnt give me a loan. :P
Don't the Clintons have like $100 million laying around?
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
edited April 2008
Like personal wealth? Probably. Hillary's primary budget is shrinking though, owing to the fact that she's relied upon big donors who maxed out early.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
edited April 2008
It's wishful thinking, blind optimism, and all that, but I'm sticking by my earlier prediction (especially in light of the PPP numbers from today):
Clinton wins by 2 points. The first two days of coverage are about Hillary's defeat of Obama's money machine. The race continues onto NC and Indiana. By Friday evening, newscasts start pointing out that, despite her victory, the delegate math just got much worse for her. By May 1st, Obama finally goes ahead of Clinton in number of superdelegates (he's only behind her by about 25 now).
On May 6th, Obama wins NC by 13, and Clinton wins Indiana by less than 1 percent. She drops out of the race by May 10th.
Yes, it's all pure speculation, but gosh darn it, I like it.
Like personal wealth? Probably. Hillary's primary budget is shrinking though, owing to the fact that she's relied upon big donors who maxed out early.
I'd feel stupid contributing to the campaign of a woman with Hillary's kind of money.
It's like, "Hey Ms. future billionaire, can I pay for the gas in your hummer?"
There's a reason she's not donating any more money to her campaign. As is, unless she manages to win the nomination she's going to take a loss of $5M - no one is going to give her money to pay back that loan to herself. Any of her own money that she puts into the campaign at this point will never be seen again.
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
edited April 2008
I'm going with the conventional wisdom and predicting Clinton by 10.
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Irond WillWARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!!Cambridge. MAModeratorMod Emeritus
Like personal wealth? Probably. Hillary's primary budget is shrinking though, owing to the fact that she's relied upon big donors who maxed out early.
I'd feel stupid contributing to the campaign of a woman with Hillary's kind of money.
It's like, "Hey Ms. future billionaire, can I pay for the gas in your hummer?"
There's a reason she's not donating any more money to her campaign. As is, unless she manages to win the nomination she's going to take a loss of $5M - no one is going to give her money to pay back that loan to herself. Any of her own money that she puts into the campaign at this point will never be seen again.
"I'm willing to destroy the Democratic Party to win, but I'll be damned if I sell off some of my stocks and bonds!"
If somebody told me they're deciding on who to vote for based on lapel pins, I would seriously have to restrain myself from getting in my car and running them over.
Like personal wealth? Probably. Hillary's primary budget is shrinking though, owing to the fact that she's relied upon big donors who maxed out early.
I'd feel stupid contributing to the campaign of a woman with Hillary's kind of money.
It's like, "Hey Ms. future billionaire, can I pay for the gas in your hummer?"
There's a reason she's not donating any more money to her campaign. As is, unless she manages to win the nomination she's going to take a loss of $5M - no one is going to give her money to pay back that loan to herself. Any of her own money that she puts into the campaign at this point will never be seen again.
I'm pretty sure she mentally wrote off that 5 million as lost money, but I'm pretty shocked anyone is doing work for her without cash in hand at this point. She's proven she has no problems letting bills slip unless the debtor goes to the press with it.
That said, Clinton by 4-8, I'm seeing backlash against the blatant media hits being put out on Obama right now.
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
edited April 2008
I went Clinton 8-12
If only because that fucking travesty of a debate happened last week when it had no right to
If somebody told me they're deciding on who to vote for based on lapel pins, I would seriously have to restrain myself from getting in my car and running them over.
Put a support our troops magnet and at least 1 flag sticker for every 300lbs of car body weight first.
Like personal wealth? Probably. Hillary's primary budget is shrinking though, owing to the fact that she's relied upon big donors who maxed out early.
I'd feel stupid contributing to the campaign of a woman with Hillary's kind of money.
It's like, "Hey Ms. future billionaire, can I pay for the gas in your hummer?"
There's a reason she's not donating any more money to her campaign. As is, unless she manages to win the nomination she's going to take a loss of $5M - no one is going to give her money to pay back that loan to herself. Any of her own money that she puts into the campaign at this point will never be seen again.
"I'm willing to destroy the Democratic Party to win, but I'll be damned if I sell off some of my stocks and bonds!"
Oh god, I would love to see some bloggers start talking about Hillary putting her money where her mouth is, and having the MSM pick it up.
I wonder if there might be a certain number of Hillary supporters that might vote Obama not because they dislike Hillary, but because they honestly want the primary to be over, and have accepted the cold hard truth of the delegate math.
I don't see why you guys think double digits is so likely. Even the external polls have it a lot closer than that.
Basically, I predict most of the "undecideds" going to Hillary. It's always hard to assess late-deciders, but it's generally a safe bet that they're low-information voters who will tend to vote along the lines of very very early polling (which was heavily Hillary).
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It barely had time to breathe
In primary news, haters be trying to keep the good man down.
But that shit don't fly
NNID: Hakkekage
Will is a threadbortionist.
Anyways, I wish people would stop lending Hillary money for the campaign if they know she's in the red and little to no chance of winning. I mean, if I was in her position my bank sure wouldnt give me a loan. :P
MWO: Adamski
Thought you guys might want a poll
Clinton wins by 2 points. The first two days of coverage are about Hillary's defeat of Obama's money machine. The race continues onto NC and Indiana. By Friday evening, newscasts start pointing out that, despite her victory, the delegate math just got much worse for her. By May 1st, Obama finally goes ahead of Clinton in number of superdelegates (he's only behind her by about 25 now).
On May 6th, Obama wins NC by 13, and Clinton wins Indiana by less than 1 percent. She drops out of the race by May 10th.
Yes, it's all pure speculation, but gosh darn it, I like it.
I'd feel stupid contributing to the campaign of a woman with Hillary's kind of money.
It's like, "Hey Ms. future billionaire, can I pay for the gas in your hummer?"
There's a reason she's not donating any more money to her campaign. As is, unless she manages to win the nomination she's going to take a loss of $5M - no one is going to give her money to pay back that loan to herself. Any of her own money that she puts into the campaign at this point will never be seen again.
It's bitter.
We lost the pin in the wash.
"I'm willing to destroy the Democratic Party to win, but I'll be damned if I sell off some of my stocks and bonds!"
But yeah, I honestly don't know how PA will turn out. Hillary isn't as good at pretending to be a "Good Ol' Boy" as she seems to think she is.
I'm pretty sure she mentally wrote off that 5 million as lost money, but I'm pretty shocked anyone is doing work for her without cash in hand at this point. She's proven she has no problems letting bills slip unless the debtor goes to the press with it.
That said, Clinton by 4-8, I'm seeing backlash against the blatant media hits being put out on Obama right now.
If only because that fucking travesty of a debate happened last week when it had no right to
NNID: Hakkekage
Put a support our troops magnet and at least 1 flag sticker for every 300lbs of car body weight first.
It's hard to believe there's only one day left before this primary. It feels like it's been going on forever.
Of course, I'm a pessimist.
These kids just don't appreciate the inevitability of DOOM like we do.
Because I have hope.
Oh god, I would love to see some bloggers start talking about Hillary putting her money where her mouth is, and having the MSM pick it up.
MWO: Adamski
Yeah.
We were in the Pennsylvania stretch when the Reverend Wright thing broke.
That feels like ages ago.
Not Obama.
MWO: Adamski
I spent the weekend in Portland registering Obama voters, though.
Really I just mean 8.
Basically, I predict most of the "undecideds" going to Hillary. It's always hard to assess late-deciders, but it's generally a safe bet that they're low-information voters who will tend to vote along the lines of very very early polling (which was heavily Hillary).
Projection, DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
This is a sitcom. Some form of really amazing and subtle live action comedy. Right?