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Guitar Hero IV to have vocals and other instruments.
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So with the success of Rock Band I guess you couldn't really expect the boys at Activision to just sit and watch their hard-earned brand die away. I will just be prepared to rue the decision of paying out another +$100 just to be able to play different songs and having to store two sets of fake instruments. :P
I guess that is assuming that they make the RB instruments non-compatible with the GHIV game out of the box. I just can't see them allowing the cross play to happen.
I guess that is assuming that they make the RB instruments non-compatible with the GHIV game out of the box. I just can't see them allowing the cross play to happen.
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Ah ok. Hehe.
Which GH thread? I wanna discuss and be reviled!
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Actually, even though Rock band has achieved great success, GH3 has had massively larger success than Rock Band by leaps and bounds, and the series has rocketed to levels far beyond those ever achieved by Guitar Hero 2.
I don't think Activision is worried about GH becoming irrelevant. If anything, they should be worried about being able to supply enough product to meet demand when the next game comes out.
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No it's fine, this deserves its own thread.
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I just wonder how big the audience is for GHIV with instruments. Again, assuming that you can't play the RB instruments with GHIV how many people that didn't buy Rock Band would be wiling to but the GHIV instruments? Certainly more than zero but my how much?
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Guitar Hero 3 sold 7.5 Million copies. And it's still charting in the top ten for each month, or thereabouts.
Guitar Hero 2 sold 2 M units on the 360 alone in 2007.
Rock Band sold 1.5 million units total last year.
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You know, that was my thought too but as Slash has mentioned the GH brand is still bigger. So it may be an interesting clash.
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Saw what you will, Guitar Hero outsells Rock Band by a serious margin.
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Honestly I can't see this ending well for Harmonix. Even if their product is superior (which honestly it probably will be), dipshits are just going to go to Walmart and say to themselves, "Oh look, the new Guitar Hero costs 170 bucks, OH MAN IT HAS DRUMS AND VOCALS, WHAT A CRAZY NEW IDEA".
That's a good question.
I think Activision is nuts to include other instruments.
Why?
Because Guitar Hero and Rock Band achieve 2 different things.
Guitar Hero let's us shred crazy-guitar solo-heavy songs. Rock Band has to balance things out more by providing fun parts for each band member.
So if you really enjoy shredding the guitar, the GH franchise achieves that by focusing on songs with great guitar parts. By including other instruments, they'd be forced to put in songs that also have fun singing/drums parts. It would put some serious limits on the kinds of awesome guitar stuff that you can find and implement into Guitar Hero if you do that.
Rock Band is awesome because it's great multiplayer. It does everything relatively well. But it doesn't provide the guitar shredding experience of GH, and it also costs noticeably more money.
By adding more instruments, GH would be putting itself in direct compeititon with Rock Band, instead of pseudo competition. Clearly there is a huge enough market for gamers that just want to shred. Clearly there is a huge enough market for people who just want to sing (see SingStar).
Just because RB is getting very popular doesn't meant that GH should try to encompass its market at the detriment of what made GH popular in the first place.
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If Guitar Hero IV comes out with support for all previous GH guitars AND with the ability to buy all the pieces individualy (instead of all an once or not at all like Rock Band) it will sell very well. There are a lot of people who would buy it and just use it with their old guitars, then maybe pick up drums or a mic later.
Good thing for Activision the masses don't pay attention to little details like that.
It's kind of sad; it's like they're out to compete with themselves.
For a purely single player experience, that is also cheaper, its not better than Rock Band. BUT, if both have all intruments/vocals, then yes, atm, I'd pick Rock Band. But FUCK them for rubbing out Rock Band on the Wii like its a $2 whore.
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"Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
Rock Band will dominate everyone who's looking to get a game with the 'full band' experience.
When GH: Band actually comes out, it will be up against a game that will already have HUNDREDS of songs available to download. ENTIRE ALBUMS even!
I just dont know anyone who would pick something that promises support over something that already has a gazillion songs.
Gosh, you know I mean all of us here are a special (read: special) niche in video gaming but is what you're saying really true about the Guitar Hero brand? Yikes! I remember when I bought the first one on the release day. The Gamestop guy was practically making fun of me for buying a child's toy.
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That doesnt sound right, as most poeple complain about the technical side (notecharts) about GH3. Most people get GH3 because its almost, what? $100 cheaper.
"Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
"Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
GH3 was expensive but it still didn't eclipse most people's cut-off point for purchase, or so it seems.
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Wii owners? Who dont have "HUNDREDS" of songs available. Who've also bought what 2 million copies of GH3
"Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
"Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
Exactly.
"Was cursing, in broken english at his team, and at our team. made fun of dead family members and mentioned he had sex with a dog."
"Hope he dies tbh but a ban would do."
I was going by opinions expressed in YouTube comments in promo videos, which is sadly the closest we'll get to the mind of the lowest common denominator that usually determines sales.
Did you make that mock-up? Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see how they make the drum set for GHIV. It'll be hard to beat how real the RB drums feel without having adding something like cymbals and the hi-hat. But would that still be enough of a difference for me to buy them?
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At nearly 3 times the price, with a much tighter strain on supply.
Someone dig up the Rock Band DLC figures, which prove everything in this issue.
Well if they are still relying on the Wii for their rocking out then I don't think GHIV+other instruments will be any more enticing than RB.
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Yep. The Wii version of Gh3 should be sitting at somewhere just above 2 million sales in the United States alone, as of March 08.
GH3 for the Wii was the 7th best selling game of March 2008, otherwise known as Brawl month.
I suspect that Harmonix/EA/MTV will release expansion packs on disc for the Wii version of RB. Or something. they'd be insane not to do so. But we'll see.
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How many serious gamers only own a Wii, or will only own a wii when this comes out?
GH3's main success has to be mainly because it's on four consoles instead of two. And that overall, it's less expensive than RB. Past history can't be used as the sole gauge for future success.
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Prove what on this issue? That the people that have bought the game are willing to keep buying more content?
As opposed to a vastly increasing number of overall people buying more copies of the game?
Let's not forget that GH3 has DLC on the 360/PS3 at that. Just not a lot of it.
If we're talking sheer numbers of people that buy these games, the Guitar Hero franchise is not only dominating Rock Band, but it's increasing in popularity.
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Nope just posting something that's been circulating the last couple days.
I saw a webcomic sort of touching on the mentality of YouTube commenters. I don't like the make blanket statements but anyone who has ever commented, uploaded, worked at, read about, or used YouTube has a very small penis. It's very discouraging to think that people can operate a computer and still be illiterate. But seriously, yes, it's true your honor. Those men have no dicks.
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What are you talking about? There is very obviously a huge market for this type of game on the Wii. And by type of game I mean social music rhythm game. The market for RB for the Wii will be enormous. Not Guitar Hero enormous, but enormous nonetheless.
How many "serious" gamers will only own a Wii when this comes out? That's irrelevant. There's a huge market for Guitar Hero / fake band games on the Wii. The Wii version of GH3 is dominating the sales of the game.
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I've just figured it out. All the onscreen instruments will still be controlled with the plastic guitars. Wanna play the drums? Plastic guitar. Wanna sing the vocals? Plastic guitar. That's where it will differentiate itself in the market. By being crazily bizarre.
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