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[Burn On] Persona / 3: FES / SMT discussion | Journeying for the Answer

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Ah yeah, that makes sense. I've never really been too fond of them, Nocturne has definitely been the best one I've played. Eh, that's true. I'm not ruling out replaying it of course, just unprovokedly (It's a word I swear) saying I don't think I will.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Doing the replay of P3, is there any reason I can't just go it alone for the most part? I mean, walking up the tower is pretty simple, and I'm thinking I may just do that the night before every full-moon event and level up all my social links. I just don't feel like fighting one-shottable enemies until Monad.

    Speaking of: what's the quickest way to get a Persona that can actually take a hit so I can level people/search in Monad?

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So I'm listening to Nocturne's soundtrack again and it's still amazing. Chiaki's theme is pretty haunting considering you know what happens to her. It's great even in midi.

    I love how in SMT games the staff rolls always give me that sense of completion. Nocturne's does great in that respect.

    I might be up for another playthrough sooner than I thought. Freedom ending is pretty damn tempting.
    Speaking of: what's the quickest way to get a Persona that can actually take a hit so I can level people/search in Monad?

    If you can get your Alice or Daisoujou or whatever with Die for me!/Samsara + their boosts that should be the most efficient.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Fuck Spastic Turret. Argh...I need a break from trying to beat that fight...

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  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Joule wrote: »
    So I'm listening to Nocturne's soundtrack again and it's still amazing. Chiaki's theme is pretty haunting considering you know what happens to her.

    Damn you I don't even know who Chiaki is yet!

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  • StriferStrifer Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Joule wrote: »
    So I'm listening to Nocturne's soundtrack again and it's still amazing. Chiaki's theme is pretty haunting considering you know what happens to her. It's great even in midi.

    I love how in SMT games the staff rolls always give me that sense of completion. Nocturne's does great in that respect.

    I might be up for another playthrough sooner than I thought. Freedom ending is pretty damn tempting.

    Personally, I like the theme of the game for the fact that it's so emotionally varied. It's upbeat, cheerful, determined, gloomy, haunting, fatalistic, and whatever else you want to see in it. I'm humming it almost everyday.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Beat The Journey a bit ago. Level 84 when everything was said and done - I ended up with Horus equipped for half the fight casting Mediarahan and Samarecarm while everyone else did the kicking and the punching.

    I've decided I'll save my all S.Links playthrough for another time... The Answer beckons.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So while browsing P4's assorted character videos(which are interesting), I happened upon this.

    A Persona webgame of some sort? It wouldn't let me register for it.

    The assistance of someone skilled in moon-speak would be much appreciated.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    So while browsing P4's assorted character videos(which are interesting), I happened upon this.

    A Persona webgame of some sort? It wouldn't let me register for it.

    The assistance of someone skilled in moon-speak would be much appreciated.
    What's with the little window things on that page's background? They're straight out of Nocturne's Labyrinth.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    So while browsing P4's assorted character videos(which are interesting), I happened upon this.

    A Persona webgame of some sort? It wouldn't let me register for it.

    The assistance of someone skilled in moon-speak would be much appreciated.
    What's with the little window things on that page's background? They're straight out of Nocturne's Labyrinth.

    Yeah, I noticed that too, but the music is P3's. Maybe it's a dungeon crawl thing.

    Also, finally watching more of Trinity Soul.

    The story is confusing, but I really like the show's atmosphere.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ...Oh my god. Yoyogi Park + Riberoma = Wave after wave of ridiculously easy enemies that give amazing EXP = 8000 EXP A BATTLE.

    I may never continue with the plot again.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    ...Oh my god. Yoyogi Park + Riberoma = Wave after wave of ridiculously easy enemies that give amazing EXP = 8000 EXP A BATTLE.

    I may never continue with the plot again.
    Once in the last dungeon, I encountered a fucking ridiculous wave of reinforcements. I ended up with--I shit you not--more than 40k experience.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    ...Oh my god. Yoyogi Park + Riberoma = Wave after wave of ridiculously easy enemies that give amazing EXP = 8000 EXP A BATTLE.

    I may never continue with the plot again.
    Once in the last dungeon, I encountered a fucking ridiculous wave of reinforcements. I ended up with--I shit you not--more than 40k experience.
    Yeah, it's excellent, because Yoyogi Park is 100% Fairy enemies, and Fairies tend to have reinforcements anyway, which adds to the Riberoma reinforcements, and the Titanias and Oberons give excellent experience on their own, and are stupidly easy to kill...it's really, really nice.

    Also, need an opinion:

    Is Avenge worth it on my Red Rider? I'm looking at a skill set of Terrorblade, Wind Cutter, Attack All, Dekaja, Force Boost, Bolt Storm, Dekunda, and something else. I can either go with Avenge or keep trying this fusion until I get Samarecarm (no one in my active team has it)/Mana Refill (Wind Cutter all night long)/Mazanma/Mabufula/Glacial Blast

    Thoughts?

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    ...Oh my god. Yoyogi Park + Riberoma = Wave after wave of ridiculously easy enemies that give amazing EXP = 8000 EXP A BATTLE.

    I may never continue with the plot again.
    Once in the last dungeon, I encountered a fucking ridiculous wave of reinforcements. I ended up with--I shit you not--more than 40k experience.
    Yeah, it's excellent, because Yoyogi Park is 100% Fairy enemies, and Fairies tend to have reinforcements anyway, which adds to the Riberoma reinforcements, and the Titanias and Oberons give excellent experience on their own, and are stupidly easy to kill...it's really, really nice.

    Also, need an opinion:

    Is Avenge worth it on my Red Rider? I'm looking at a skill set of Terrorblade, Wind Cutter, Attack All, Dekaja, Force Boost, Bolt Storm, Dekunda, and something else. I can either go with Avenge or keep trying this fusion until I get Samarecarm (no one else has it)/Mana Refill (Wind Cutter all night long)/Mazanma/Mabufula/Glacial Blast

    Thoughts?

    The Red Rider is made to be a physical powerhouse, so burdening him with spells would be going against his purpose. Mana Refill might come in handy every now and then, but Terrorblade is really where it's at. So Avenge would be fitting in best with his repertoire. Mana Refill would be really useful on the White Rider, though, thanks to that broken-as-fuck Holy Arrow skill.

    If you want to fuse a ton of spells onto one of the Fiends, then the Black or Pale Rider would be best. They're pretty unremarkable otherwise, so if you absolutely had to have one of them in your party then beefing him up with powerful magic would be the only thing to make him worthwhile. Pale Rider in particular is resoundingly worthless despite the thirteen degrees of hell he can put you through as a boss fight.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Avenge it is. Thanks.

    I'm thinking I'll be rocking out with a Daisoujou, Red Rider, Harlot/Trumpeter party for a while (once I get them. I'm using Hell Biker right now)

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I don't think I've ever really needed Samarecarm in a Megaten game. Items are usually sufficient.

    Besides, don't you need to resummon revived demons in Nocturne? I think I'd sooner either end the battle ASAP, or figure out a better way to not die.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah. None of my demons have ever actually died on me. It was more of a "...should I maybe have this?" kind of concern.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    I never used Hell Biker, since he's basically just a Garu-themed Matador (and Andalucia was one-shotting mobs for me until I was in the thirties). The Harlot, on the other hand, excels by virtue of being more or less unkillable, and, along with one other Fiend, the Trumpeter seems to be an example of the game developers going, "Let's see just how overpowered we can make an ally. Let's just make him a really cheap son of a bitch."
    That other Fiend being Dante, post-Son's Oath.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Rust wrote: »
    I never used Hell Biker, since he's basically just a Garu-themed Matador (and Andalucia was one-shotting mobs for me until I was in the thirties). The Harlot, on the other hand, excels by virtue of being more or less unkillable, and, along with one other Fiend, the Trumpeter seems to be an example of the game developers going, "Let's see just how overpowered we can make an ally. Let's just make him a really cheap son of a bitch."
    That other Fiend being Dante, post-Son's Oath.
    I ended up going with Trumpeter for the final spot of my Demi-Fiend/Beelzebub/Metatron team. My only regret was not being able to fit both the Trumpet skills onto him. I went with Holy Melody, since my Demi-Fiend has a marked tendency to piss away HP.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I liked Hell Biker for two reasons:

    1) I didn't have a Dekaja user, so Hell's Exhaust was a good thing.
    2) Attack All.

    But yeah, he's not all that great and is definitely the weakest part of my team. I gave him a bunch of buffing spells so he wouldn't sit around in battles waiting for the enemies to buff themselves.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So I've finally decided to stop my New Game+ of Fes and crack open Nocturne. Wish me luck.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    I never used Hell Biker, since he's basically just a Garu-themed Matador (and Andalucia was one-shotting mobs for me until I was in the thirties). The Harlot, on the other hand, excels by virtue of being more or less unkillable, and, along with one other Fiend, the Trumpeter seems to be an example of the game developers going, "Let's see just how overpowered we can make an ally. Let's just make him a really cheap son of a bitch."
    That other Fiend being Dante, post-Son's Oath.
    I ended up going with Trumpeter for the final spot of my Demi-Fiend/Beelzebub/Metatron team. My only regret was not being able to fit both the Trumpet skills onto him. I went with Holy Melody, since my Demi-Fiend has a marked tendency to piss away HP.

    I gave one of his skills the shaft to get both Melodies in. My reasoning being, he's the Trumpeter. He needs those skills.

    My final party had Vishnu as the third slot. I don't remember why, but he definitely pulled me through okay.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Rust wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    I never used Hell Biker, since he's basically just a Garu-themed Matador (and Andalucia was one-shotting mobs for me until I was in the thirties). The Harlot, on the other hand, excels by virtue of being more or less unkillable, and, along with one other Fiend, the Trumpeter seems to be an example of the game developers going, "Let's see just how overpowered we can make an ally. Let's just make him a really cheap son of a bitch."
    That other Fiend being Dante, post-Son's Oath.
    I ended up going with Trumpeter for the final spot of my Demi-Fiend/Beelzebub/Metatron team. My only regret was not being able to fit both the Trumpet skills onto him. I went with Holy Melody, since my Demi-Fiend has a marked tendency to piss away HP.

    I gave one of his skills the shaft to get both Melodies in. My reasoning being, he's the Trumpeter. He needs those skills.

    My final party had Vishnu as the third slot. I don't remember why, but he definitely pulled me through okay.
    Well, I'd created him explicitly as an elementalist, so I didn't want to ditch those skills. That left Mediarahan (also a significant reason for his exisiting), Dekunda (ditto), or Victory Cry. I had to make the call.

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    langfor6 wrote: »
    Joule wrote: »
    So I'm listening to Nocturne's soundtrack again and it's still amazing. Chiaki's theme is pretty haunting considering you know what happens to her.

    Damn you I don't even know who Chiaki is yet!

    Here's a sneak preview then. I don't think it spoils anything really but the bg pic is one of the scenes with her.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ted_Hs-EWTE

    I'm trying throw up this sweet midi rendition of Yukino's Theme from P2:IS but I haven't got a good way to get midi ---> wav so I can actually mux it to put on Youtube.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    [ ]~~05.07.THU~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Event: Justice Flag 01: Talk to Chihiro, "I want to talk?"
    Suggested link: Chariot 4
    Answer: ANY > That sucks
    Pts w/ (w/o) matching persona: 0,22 (0,15)
    Pts for next rank: 15

    Aww fuck. Hopefully I didn't just screw things up. What days does she show up?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Do you have a save from before that?

    She shows up on all the days that the student council doesn't meet, so whatever days those are.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Do you have a save from before that?

    She shows up on all the days that the student council doesn't meet, so whatever days those are.

    No, my backup save is from the 8th. I THINK I might have talked to her but I don't remember... Ugh... I'll just have to check from here on out, maybe try to shuffle 2 days around later on.

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  • JouleJoule Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    KiTA wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Do you have a save from before that?

    She shows up on all the days that the student council doesn't meet, so whatever days those are.

    No, my backup save is from the 8th. I THINK I might have talked to her but I don't remember... Ugh... I'll just have to check from here on out, maybe try to shuffle 2 days around later on.

    If you're following that guide being just one day behind for Chihiro won't really affect you much as there's at least 2-3 nights you can meet her on the Koromaru walks if you decide to not go to Tartarus that night.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Woo, my Mizuchi evolved into a Long and then I fused some other demons to get a Hell Biker. Sweet.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I just came to a startling realization. Even playing through the Journey and now the Answer, I have barely touched upon the new Personas that were added. I'm still seeing new fusions in the Velvet Room, and I believe I ended my Journey run at only 78% compendium completion.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I tried to make sure I was fusing all the available personas every time I leveled, but that just got too expensive. I'm a little behind now.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So...we're coming up to the end of another thread. What number is this now? And who's got the next one?

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    When I do my next playthrough, I'm going to try and finish up my compendium. I was worried about money, but I actually ended up with max money for a while in January. I didn't keep messing around with fusions though just because I got bored and wanted to get to the final battle.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wouldn't it be fairly easy just to get the highest demon in each Arcana and do a bunch of rank-down fusions?

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Elendil wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be fairly easy just to get the highest demon in each Arcana and do a bunch of rank-down fusions?

    Yeah, but think of how much that would cost. The higher the persona, the more expensive it is.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, but in a New Game+ you should have access to Monad, so the money will be rolling in.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    So...we're coming up to the end of another thread. What number is this now? And who's got the next one?

    If I remember right, this is the fourth(consecutive).

    I'm willing to let this one reach the moon unless there's outside complaint, because I'm out of revision ideas.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm cool with keeping this thread for now. I really don't have an OP idea either...

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  • HakuninHakunin Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Good god, finally beat the Reaper without using Armageddon. Feels so satisfying.

    Aigis was the one to land the killing blow...
    Seems fitting considering her past history

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  • AdelliosAdellios Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Atlus is looking for a Game Producer for a "Significant MMO Title." I wonder if they are considering bringing SMT:Imagine out here.

    I sure hope so.

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