The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.

Intersubjective Objective Subjectivity

QuidQuid Definitely not a bananaRegistered User regular
edited April 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Illyria wrote: »
Burnage wrote: »
Illyria wrote: »
Again, the mere fact that our ability to discern the universe is hampered by our limitations is no reason to throw out the notion that there is a best way to act towards others.
Define "best". The word best is tainted and biased by definition when you're talking about morality. Unless you go for the purely biological idea of morality again, i.e. what's best is your own self-survival which makes murder moral.

No it doesn't, not at all. A single human being has a much greater rate of survival when surrounded and supported by other human beings, making murder definitely immoral in the biological scheme of things.
Not if the murdered person is not part of your society and you have no trade realtions with them. Like starving Africans or illegal Mexican immegrants. The evolutionary advantages of not killing them might even be seen as negative this way. MInd you I am not saying I think they should be killed, on the contrary. But if you say that the basis for morality is evolutionary biology, murder of a person like I mentiones DOES sadly become moral. What is the evolutionary advantage of keeping starving ethiopeans alive for Western countries? We do it out of shame or guilt. I therefore denounce this theory, it's is not objective morality in the slightest.

People were mucking about in the Mandatory Altruism thread with concepts about moral objectivity and some other shit. Please keep it going here rather that there.

Quid on

Posts

This discussion has been closed.