My GTAIV nightmare is summed up by three letters: UPS
I'll probably be out for that five second window they show up in and miss them as they leave that note that says 'to expensive to leave at door'. Since I ordered it directly from Rockstar, I expect the best case scenario is to get it before the weekend. Worst case is the next Monday since UPS doesn't normally do weekend deliveries...
Well reading through the Kotaku breakdown between the two systems amde it for me. XB360 all the way. Ironically, the breaking point was rumble. If I want Rumble, GTA turns into a 100+ dollar purchase on PS3.
Either way, this game looks gorgeous, and I'll probly pick it up towards the end of the week.
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edited April 2008
Postal Service is going to steal my game again, just like Dark Sector. Bastards. :x
I am becoming very paranoid that I didn't preorder though I know there will be numerous copies come Tuesday.
BUT I AM SO PARANOID.
Freakish. It's not going to happen - it is just paranoia - but the point is preordering didn't help at all. In fact it mighta' been a little worse, 'cause my worry wasn't just that I wouldn't have the game, but I'd be out $68.00 as well. (Everything will be fine, everything is okay, they aren't really out to get me...)
I have also been thinking of all the shit that could go wrong: There is a huge computer glitch at GS and I lose my game(and the $$), they short order and I am late, my 360 redrings, I steal my wifes 360 and it redrings, power failure at 12:01 AM, someone steals all my TVs, in my mad effort to get the box open I fling my disc into the waiting paper shredder, dog eats it. It goes on. Only 26 hours 59 minutse to go.
All that could totally happen.
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My GTAIV nightmare is summed up by three letters: UPS
I'll probably be out for that five second window they show up in and miss them as they leave that note that says 'to expensive to leave at door'. Since I ordered it directly from Rockstar, I expect the best case scenario is to get it before the weekend. Worst case is the next Monday since UPS doesn't normally do weekend deliveries...
bastards...
You can try to leave a note at the door asking them to leave it. Leaving a package is entirly up to the discretion of the driver (I used to work at a ups store), if it looks like a safe spot, he may well do it.
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Was that a decision because of the physical size of Liberty City, rendering planes that can fly from one end to another in 5 seconds useless.
Or some 9/11 bullshit.
9/11 bullshit
i can ALMOST understand
i mean, given the option i would fly a plane into a tower at least once if they put it in game
So was that decision made before or after they released GTA:SA? I think even Rockstar has officially stated that planes aren't in IV because the map was too small to justify allowing the players to use them.
Planes kind of don't make sense when you're dealing with 1 city, but still it would have been nice to be able to fly them, just as yet another distraction. The removal of parachutes is borderline criminal, though.
My GTAIV nightmare is summed up by three letters: UPS
I'll probably be out for that five second window they show up in and miss them as they leave that note that says 'to expensive to leave at door'. Since I ordered it directly from Rockstar, I expect the best case scenario is to get it before the weekend. Worst case is the next Monday since UPS doesn't normally do weekend deliveries...
bastards...
I've ordered about 5 different 360 games and had them UPS'd, and they just leave it at the door for me.
I don't think it was 9/11 bullshit so much as getting away from the sillier atmosphere of the 3 series games.
I like how they made it plausible in GTA4. In the Gametrailers video review, you can hear Niko talk about how 'he hasn't flown one since the war'. Nice to see them explain it unlike in GTA3 and Vice City where it's like "Hey look, a plane/helicopter. Go fly it because you somehow know how to."
It was okay in GTA3, where there was only one aircraft, and it took you about as long to learn to fly it as it would a real plane.
Well, lets say that you get it home safe, your wife actually assists you in the hasty opening of the package and hold the dog to prevent the accidental devouring of the dvd. Your console turns on fine and there were no rodents to speak of that chewed up your video/audio cables. The game loads, your start playing.
SUDDENLY!!!! Your dog TAKEN IN BY THE REALISM OF THE GAME gets scared for your life, and in its haste to sacrifice itself to defend you, knocks over your vertically standing 360 and the edges of the disc get scratched up beyond repair.... and Gamespot won't offer an exchange...
Nah! You will be fine... just be sure to have your 360 secured... maybe buy a toy to occupy your dog as well.
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Ah....hrm.
I think my sister costs WAY less than $60.
In any case, I am becoming very paranoid that I didn't preorder though I know there will be numerous copies come Tuesday.
BUT I AM SO PARANOID.
Don't be, seriously.
The ONLY reason Gamestopo wants you to reserve is because it's good business.
Games like these (huge blockbuster hits) don't sell out. When I was employed at Gamestop, we had copies of Halo 3 out the ass after a huge midnight release in the middle of southern California.
Paranoia is the biggest target for any business/media, mainly because it's human nature. Don't buy into they're ploys unless you just want to play as soon as possible.
I find the "The city was too small" justification for the omission of planes is just silly.
I couldn't care less how small the city is. Airplanes are fucking cool to fly around anywhere, no matter the size. I find it entirely impractical that they didn't realize this.
Fucking seriously. Have you seen the aerial shots of the city? It's big e-fucking-nough to have fun flying, and we all know it.
My GTAIV nightmare is summed up by three letters: UPS
I'll probably be out for that five second window they show up in and miss them as they leave that note that says 'to expensive to leave at door'. Since I ordered it directly from Rockstar, I expect the best case scenario is to get it before the weekend. Worst case is the next Monday since UPS doesn't normally do weekend deliveries...
bastards...
I've ordered about 5 different 360 games and had them UPS'd, and they just leave it at the door for me.
Well, I ordered the SE. The difference between a small, CD sized package and a freaking huge (and heavy, don't forget that...) package might be enough to confuse the driver. I just hope I'm notified when it's in transit so that I can properly plan to receive it.
I know I'm not too concerned about spoilers, but I'll be definitely avoiding the GTA threads between monday night and whenever I receive it. That's my plan, anyway.
I couldn't care less how small the city is. Airplanes are fucking cool to fly around anywhere, no matter the size. I find it entirely impractical that they didn't realize this.
It might be a lot of things, but impractical isn't really the right word there.
I find the "The city was too small" justification for the omission of planes is just silly.
I couldn't care less how small the city is. Airplanes are fucking cool to fly around anywhere, no matter the size. I find it entirely impractical that they didn't realize this.
Fucking seriously. Have you seen the aerial shots of the city? It's big e-fucking-nough to have fun flying, and we all know it.
And so there are helicopters. I'm sure I don't understand your point, though.
I couldn't care less how small the city is. Airplanes are fucking cool to fly around anywhere, no matter the size. I find it entirely impractical that they didn't realize this.
Let me put it this way: Imagine that you have a place the size of a drive way. Now imagine trying have have fun driving around in a driveway. That is what trying to drive an airplane in Liberty City would be like.
I haven't played through San Andreas on my PS3 quite yet, so I don't have access to planes and choppers quite yet (sold my PS2 before I moved to Savannah). But once I do, I want to fly a chopper from one side of the map to the other and time it on a stopwatch... then do the same in Liberty City. Just from what I have seen, the city looks to be bigger than any of the cities in San Andreas, and I wouldn't doubt if the total area was about a 1/3 of what was accessible in San Andreas.
It would have been nice if they included Fighter Jets at least (With the VTOL). That way people could recreate sequences from True Lies and Die Hard 4(NOTE: Stupid sequence, but it would still be cool none the less).
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edited April 2008
I'm sure modders will stick Planes in the eventual PC port.
Well, lets say that you get it home safe, your wife actually assists you in the hasty opening of the package and hold the dog to prevent the accidental devouring of the dvd. Your console turns on fine and there were no rodents to speak of that chewed up your video/audio cables. The game loads, your start playing.
SUDDENLY...
Never gonna give you up...
Edited to insert a nightmare scenario from the previous GTA4 thread.
I don't think it was 9/11 bullshit so much as getting away from the sillier atmosphere of the 3 series games.
I like how they made it plausible in GTA4. In the Gametrailers video review, you can hear Niko talk about how 'he hasn't flown one since the war'. Nice to see them explain it unlike in GTA3 and Vice City where it's like "Hey look, a plane/helicopter. Go fly it because you somehow know how to."
Listen dogg, you ain't grown up in th' hood. You learn things, yo.
I've had my 360 for about 8 months now. No real problems to report. In all that time I've never really given a shit about the possibility that a RRD might lay waste to my unit. Never even gave it a thought. Of course, I do mostly PC gaming, and there haven't been that many titles I get excited about for the 360; until I started reading up on GTA 4.
I'm now convinced I'm going to get a RRD the minute I pop this game into the unit. I have no damn idea where this paranoia came from, but the fear has infected my soul will not leave.
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Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver.
Situation excellent. I am attacking.
- General Ferdinand Foch
I haven't played through San Andreas on my PS3 quite yet, so I don't have access to planes and choppers quite yet (sold my PS2 before I moved to Savannah). But once I do, I want to fly a chopper from one side of the map to the other and time it on a stopwatch... then do the same in Liberty City. Just from what I have seen, the city looks to be bigger than any of the cities in San Andreas, and I wouldn't doubt if the total area was about a 1/3 of what was accessible in San Andreas.
It would have been nice if they included Fighter Jets at least (With the VTOL). That way people could recreate sequences from True Lies and Die Hard 4(NOTE: Stupid sequence, but it would still be cool none the less).
Yeah, but in a plane you breezed over the cities in seconds. Now maybe with a Cessna, or another small, fixed -wing aircraft flying would be fine in Liberty City, and something that I would like. But a jet? That wouldn't be good. Plus, there's the fact that there is only one airstrip in the game.
I've had my 360 for about 8 months now. No real problems to report. In all that time I've never really given a shit about the possibility that a RRD might lay waste to my unit. Never even gave it a thought. Of course, I do mostly PC gaming, and there haven't been that many titles I get excited about for the 360; until I started reading up on GTA 4.
I'm now convinced I'm going to get a RRD the minute I pop this game into the unit. I have no damn idea where this paranoia came from, but the fear has infected my soul will not leave.
Don't! The 360 can smell your fear!
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It might be a lot of things, but impractical isn't really the right word there.
Impractical is exactly the right word. R* has thought of everything, they've done so much. They've worked on their game so hard and looked at it from so many angles by now to make sure it's as perfect as possible, but to believe they honestly couldn't see the merit of airplanes? That's unrealistic.
And so there are helicopters. I'm sure I don't understand your point, though.
Planes are absolutely more fun to fly than airplanes. Absolutely. Not just in speed or mobility, but the sheer mental aspect of flying a plane. It plays better, but it is also just cooler. Even if you found me a helicopter with just as much speed and maneuverability as a plane and please try, I still would prefer a plane if only for the fun of flying.
Imagine that you have a place the size of a drive way. Now imagine trying have have fun driving around in a driveway. That is what trying to drive an airplane in Liberty City would be like.
No. I get it, that's supposed to be the explanation, but if you honestly can look at the city from an aerial point of view and tell me that the city is too small. Not to mention the joy of flying around the sky scrapers. The entirety of Liberty City is smaller than the entirety of San Andreas, but it's still bigger than all the San Andreas cities combined, and you know that even any one of the cities in San Andreas was big enough to fly around in and have fun, so that "driveway" metaphor is just untrue and inaccurate.
I'm pretty sure, after careful thought, that on the first night in the game, I will take the train to Hove Beach, find a couple on the beach, and bludgeon them to death. Then, I will go and buy a chili coney, should they be in the game.
And so there are helicopters. I'm sure I don't understand your point, though.
Planes are absolutely more fun to fly than airplanes. Absolutely. Not just in speed or mobility, but the sheer mental aspect of flying a plane. It plays better, but it is also just cooler. Even if you found me a helicopter with just as much speed and maneuverability as a plane and please try, I still would prefer a plane if only for the fun of flying.
yeah
barrel rolls and flips and whatnot
and landing in a busy street taking out cars in your way
Anyone start planning potential Free For All games?
Rockstar created the "King Kong" one, and there was a discussion about a Die Hard with a Vengeance one (where one team would plant bombs around the city, and give the others riddles to find them).
here are a few that I just thought up.
VIP: One team of 1-3 people will be assassins; one person will be a VIP; the rest will be his/her bodyguards. They have to, in any order, go to several distinct locations (Statue of Happiness, Empire State Building, etc) while the assassins are supposed to take out the VIP... without drawing local law enforcement's attention... 1 star would be failure for them.
Murder: Based off the Steam game "The Ship". One person is the referee, they assign everyone in the game a target. The ONLY person that anyone can kill will be their target... or the person who has them as a target. When the game starts everyone will disburse and scatter throughout a section of the city (to prevent anyone getting trigger happy and offing their target right away). Then the referee will send a Text (or if available a picture message) to everyone with the name of their victim. When they off their target, they contact the ref to find out their next one (the target of the person they killed). Last one standing wins.
Havoc: Everyone is split into groups, or it can be a solo thing, and the premise is to get a 6 star wanted rating and survive the longest.
Anyone come up with others?
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edited April 2008
So, is there an ingame (read: not through the 360 guide) Customizable Soundtrack Station?
Also, is there ingame video recording?
I pre-ordered the SE from EB. While I'm positive there's not going to be a shortage of copies of the regular game, those shitfuckers better not short-shrift me on the goddamn SE.
I can't tell you all how paranoid I am that I'll get there mid-day on Tuesday only to find out "Oh sorry, they didn't send us enough SEs."
GRAH.
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Murder: Based off the Steam game "The Ship". One person is the referee, they assign everyone in the game a target. The ONLY person that anyone can kill will be their target... or the person who has them as a target. When the game starts everyone will disburse and scatter throughout a section of the city (to prevent anyone getting trigger happy and offing their target right away). Then the referee will send a Text (or if available a picture message) to everyone with the name of their victim. When they off their target, they contact the ref to find out their next one (the target of the person they killed). Last one standing wins.
If you wanted to go all out, you could just draw names out of a hat to choose your assassination victim. It's like that game that people play in real life, sometimes with nerf guns... I forget the name. If you kill your stalker, you get bonus points. If you kill someone that isn't your target or stalker, you get DQ'd or jailed or timed out. All of this while maintaining a zero star count to keep it stealthy.
You'd need a pencil and paper of course, but it would be epic.
It might be a lot of things, but impractical isn't really the right word there.
Impractical is exactly the right word. R* has thought of everything, they've done so much. They've worked on their game so hard and looked at it from so many angles by now to make sure it's as perfect as possible, but to believe they honestly couldn't see the merit of airplanes? That's unrealistic.
Wow, really? I'm quite sure at some point they debated the inclusion of planes. And I'm sure that part of their reason for discarding them was that, for their (Rockstar's) purposes, the planes themselves would be impractical. They have stated over and over their desire to add more realism into the GTA series and no matter how much fun it might be to fuck around and fly a plain through the skyscraper canyons, it just simply wasn't plausible in the world they're trying to create.
In GTA:SA it was almost a necessity to have planes since the maps were so large. But I doubt I was the only one who used them to fly to a point on the map and then parachute down letting the plane fall were gravity physics dictated. It sure was fun. And it sure wasn't realistic.
Be honest here, do you really want them to spend time modeling plane aerodynamics and shoehorning in missions based on it?
Yeah, but in a plane you breezed over the cities in seconds. Now maybe with a Cessna, or another small, fixed -wing aircraft flying would be fine in Liberty City, and something that I would like. But a jet? That wouldn't be good. Plus, there's the fact that there is only one airstrip in the game.
Yeah, a small prop would be good, especially with the water runners like in Vice City... did Vice City have planes besides the Dodo? I can't remember! Maybe I am just thinking of the water landing planes in San Andreas... regardless, yes those would have been nice.
Thats why I said Fighter Jets with VTOL. (Vertical Take-Off and Landing) would be so much fun hovering and laying havoc by firing missiles into the streets.
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Wow, thats like every place I worked as a chef and retail. Girls just being there for aesthetics.
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I'll probably be out for that five second window they show up in and miss them as they leave that note that says 'to expensive to leave at door'. Since I ordered it directly from Rockstar, I expect the best case scenario is to get it before the weekend. Worst case is the next Monday since UPS doesn't normally do weekend deliveries...
Either way, this game looks gorgeous, and I'll probly pick it up towards the end of the week.
All that could totally happen.
You can try to leave a note at the door asking them to leave it. Leaving a package is entirly up to the discretion of the driver (I used to work at a ups store), if it looks like a safe spot, he may well do it.
Planes kind of don't make sense when you're dealing with 1 city, but still it would have been nice to be able to fly them, just as yet another distraction. The removal of parachutes is borderline criminal, though.
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I've ordered about 5 different 360 games and had them UPS'd, and they just leave it at the door for me.
It was okay in GTA3, where there was only one aircraft, and it took you about as long to learn to fly it as it would a real plane.
Nah! You will be fine... just be sure to have your 360 secured... maybe buy a toy to occupy your dog as well.
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Don't be, seriously.
The ONLY reason Gamestopo wants you to reserve is because it's good business.
Games like these (huge blockbuster hits) don't sell out. When I was employed at Gamestop, we had copies of Halo 3 out the ass after a huge midnight release in the middle of southern California.
Paranoia is the biggest target for any business/media, mainly because it's human nature. Don't buy into they're ploys unless you just want to play as soon as possible.
I couldn't care less how small the city is. Airplanes are fucking cool to fly around anywhere, no matter the size. I find it entirely impractical that they didn't realize this.
Fucking seriously. Have you seen the aerial shots of the city? It's big e-fucking-nough to have fun flying, and we all know it.
I know I'm not too concerned about spoilers, but I'll be definitely avoiding the GTA threads between monday night and whenever I receive it. That's my plan, anyway.
And so there are helicopters. I'm sure I don't understand your point, though.
It would have been nice if they included Fighter Jets at least (With the VTOL). That way people could recreate sequences from True Lies and Die Hard 4(NOTE: Stupid sequence, but it would still be cool none the less).
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Landing, though...
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Edited to insert a nightmare scenario from the previous GTA4 thread.
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Listen dogg, you ain't grown up in th' hood. You learn things, yo.
I'm now convinced I'm going to get a RRD the minute I pop this game into the unit. I have no damn idea where this paranoia came from, but the fear has infected my soul will not leave.
Situation excellent. I am attacking.
- General Ferdinand Foch
Yeah, but in a plane you breezed over the cities in seconds. Now maybe with a Cessna, or another small, fixed -wing aircraft flying would be fine in Liberty City, and something that I would like. But a jet? That wouldn't be good. Plus, there's the fact that there is only one airstrip in the game.
Don't! The 360 can smell your fear!
Impractical is exactly the right word. R* has thought of everything, they've done so much. They've worked on their game so hard and looked at it from so many angles by now to make sure it's as perfect as possible, but to believe they honestly couldn't see the merit of airplanes? That's unrealistic.
Planes are absolutely more fun to fly than airplanes. Absolutely. Not just in speed or mobility, but the sheer mental aspect of flying a plane. It plays better, but it is also just cooler. Even if you found me a helicopter with just as much speed and maneuverability as a plane and please try, I still would prefer a plane if only for the fun of flying.
No. I get it, that's supposed to be the explanation, but if you honestly can look at the city from an aerial point of view and tell me that the city is too small. Not to mention the joy of flying around the sky scrapers. The entirety of Liberty City is smaller than the entirety of San Andreas, but it's still bigger than all the San Andreas cities combined, and you know that even any one of the cities in San Andreas was big enough to fly around in and have fun, so that "driveway" metaphor is just untrue and inaccurate.
yeah
barrel rolls and flips and whatnot
and landing in a busy street taking out cars in your way
So, I will drive a motorcycle through the halls of an Emergency Room tossing grenades as I go.
I'm 100% sure this can be done, seeing as how I saw it being done on a live feed.
Rockstar created the "King Kong" one, and there was a discussion about a Die Hard with a Vengeance one (where one team would plant bombs around the city, and give the others riddles to find them).
here are a few that I just thought up.
VIP: One team of 1-3 people will be assassins; one person will be a VIP; the rest will be his/her bodyguards. They have to, in any order, go to several distinct locations (Statue of Happiness, Empire State Building, etc) while the assassins are supposed to take out the VIP... without drawing local law enforcement's attention... 1 star would be failure for them.
Murder: Based off the Steam game "The Ship". One person is the referee, they assign everyone in the game a target. The ONLY person that anyone can kill will be their target... or the person who has them as a target. When the game starts everyone will disburse and scatter throughout a section of the city (to prevent anyone getting trigger happy and offing their target right away). Then the referee will send a Text (or if available a picture message) to everyone with the name of their victim. When they off their target, they contact the ref to find out their next one (the target of the person they killed). Last one standing wins.
Havoc: Everyone is split into groups, or it can be a solo thing, and the premise is to get a 6 star wanted rating and survive the longest.
Anyone come up with others?
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Also, is there ingame video recording?
I keep hearing varied answers on both.
I can't tell you all how paranoid I am that I'll get there mid-day on Tuesday only to find out "Oh sorry, they didn't send us enough SEs."
GRAH.
If you wanted to go all out, you could just draw names out of a hat to choose your assassination victim. It's like that game that people play in real life, sometimes with nerf guns... I forget the name. If you kill your stalker, you get bonus points. If you kill someone that isn't your target or stalker, you get DQ'd or jailed or timed out. All of this while maintaining a zero star count to keep it stealthy.
You'd need a pencil and paper of course, but it would be epic.
Wow, really? I'm quite sure at some point they debated the inclusion of planes. And I'm sure that part of their reason for discarding them was that, for their (Rockstar's) purposes, the planes themselves would be impractical. They have stated over and over their desire to add more realism into the GTA series and no matter how much fun it might be to fuck around and fly a plain through the skyscraper canyons, it just simply wasn't plausible in the world they're trying to create.
In GTA:SA it was almost a necessity to have planes since the maps were so large. But I doubt I was the only one who used them to fly to a point on the map and then parachute down letting the plane fall were gravity physics dictated. It sure was fun. And it sure wasn't realistic.
Be honest here, do you really want them to spend time modeling plane aerodynamics and shoehorning in missions based on it?
Thats why I said Fighter Jets with VTOL. (Vertical Take-Off and Landing) would be so much fun hovering and laying havoc by firing missiles into the streets.
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I'm really disappointed there isn't LAN play, i was actually planning to have a LAN of this on the weekend. Guess online play will work fine for it.
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Wow, thats like every place I worked as a chef and retail. Girls just being there for aesthetics.
Holy Hell, GTA launch party in 8 hours.
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