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Tipping, a retarded idea or a great business practice?

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    I bullshit tips. I'm not actually going to sit and do math over it.

    I like people that have little cards in their wallets that calculate tips hehe

    One of the doctors I work for took me to lunch one day and had probably the worst tipping system I've ever seen.

    At the beggining of the meal, he laid out $10 in singles, and lectured to the server, "This is your tip. Every time you screw up, every time my straw makes that slurping sound, or any time something else I don't like happens, I remove a dollar. Good luck."

    I've heard of a lot of other people doing this too. Fuck that system. I'd lose all $10 if I was serving just because I wouldn't want to take pricky money like that. We did get really good service, though.

    What a fucking prick.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Doc on
  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    I bullshit tips. I'm not actually going to sit and do math over it.

    I like people that have little cards in their wallets that calculate tips hehe

    One of the doctors I work for took me to lunch one day and had probably the worst tipping system I've ever seen.

    At the beggining of the meal, he laid out $10 in singles, and lectured to the server, "This is your tip. Every time you screw up, every time my straw makes that slurping sound, or any time something else I don't like happens, I remove a dollar. Good luck."

    I've heard of a lot of other people doing this too. Fuck that system. I'd lose all $10 if I was serving just because I wouldn't want to take pricky money like that. We did get really good service, though.
    He stole it from Seinfeld and the pricks that do that can die.

    Is that where it came from? Damn, how have I not seen this episode?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Is that where it came from? Damn, how have I not seen this episode?
    That's what was said in the last tipping thread. Though I never actually watched enough to know either way.

    Quid on
  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Employer at a really, really good job. Not really an option.

    Ironically, he's a psychotherapist. But he's a behaviorist, so it really makes sense.

    Given how he apparently treats the people who work for him I'm not sure I'd find the job to be all that great.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    I bullshit tips. I'm not actually going to sit and do math over it.

    I like people that have little cards in their wallets that calculate tips hehe

    One of the doctors I work for took me to lunch one day and had probably the worst tipping system I've ever seen.

    At the beggining of the meal, he laid out $10 in singles, and lectured to the server, "This is your tip. Every time you screw up, every time my straw makes that slurping sound, or any time something else I don't like happens, I remove a dollar. Good luck."

    I've heard of a lot of other people doing this too. Fuck that system. I'd lose all $10 if I was serving just because I wouldn't want to take pricky money like that. We did get really good service, though.

    People do that in real life? Holy shit.

    shryke on
  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    Doc on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Also, in regards to removing the tip gradually, if I ever see that happen next to my table I will offer the waiter two dollars for every dollar he loses from the other guy.

    Free market FTW!

    Quid on
  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Employer at a really, really good job. Not really an option.

    Ironically, he's a psychotherapist. But he's a behaviorist, so it really makes sense.

    Given how he apparently treats the people who work for him I'm not sure I'd find the job to be all that great.

    I don't directly work for him, he just sends patients my way and I return test results.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    I bullshit tips. I'm not actually going to sit and do math over it.

    I like people that have little cards in their wallets that calculate tips hehe

    One of the doctors I work for took me to lunch one day and had probably the worst tipping system I've ever seen.

    At the beggining of the meal, he laid out $10 in singles, and lectured to the server, "This is your tip. Every time you screw up, every time my straw makes that slurping sound, or any time something else I don't like happens, I remove a dollar. Good luck."

    I've heard of a lot of other people doing this too. Fuck that system. I'd lose all $10 if I was serving just because I wouldn't want to take pricky money like that. We did get really good service, though.
    He stole it from Seinfeld and the pricks that do that can die.

    When will people learn that the people on Seinfeld aren't role models?
    Still, I think taking off for problems is better, as it allows me to reward for stuff done so well I don't notice.

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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    Doc on
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Also, in regards to removing the tip gradually, if I ever see that happen next to my table I will offer the waiter two dollars for every dollar he loses from the other guy.

    Free market FTW!

    I like this idea. Pay the waiter to abuse a bad customer.

    shryke on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    [A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.
    Eh, people here complain about their employees all the time. If it makes for an entertaining book I don't see the issue.

    Quid on
  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    So you can't complain about coworkers now? Really?

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  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    Maybe more people need to write books.

    wazilla on
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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Having never read the waiter-rants, I think the best solution is probably to just never read the waiter-rants.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    So you can't complain about coworkers now? Really?

    You totally can, and I won't fault you for it. But if the complaints are varied and constant enough to keep a regular blog going for four years, then you should probably man up and quit your horrible job, or realize that horrible coworkers and customers are precisely what you are paid to deal with.

    Doc on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    You totally can, and I won't fault you for it. But if the complaints are varied and constant enough to keep a regular blog going for four years, then you should probably man up and quit your horrible job, or realize that horrible coworkers and customers are precisely what you are paid to deal with.
    He's probably making a decent chunk of money from the blog/book to make having the shitty job worthwhile.

    Quid on
  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    So you can't complain about coworkers now? Really?

    You totally can, and I won't fault you for it. But if the complaints are varied and constant enough to keep a regular blog going for four years, then you should probably man up and quit your horrible job, or realize that horrible coworkers and customers are precisely what you are paid to deal with.

    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    wazilla on
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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    There are things he likes about the job, that's just not what he puts on his blog because people would rather hear about the not so fun things (or the funny things).

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  • Casual EddyCasual Eddy The Astral PlaneRegistered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    It was entertaining but I didn't like how 1/3 of the posts were like 'man people are awful these days' and how he blamed everything on karma.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Regarding the waiter rant:
    If you think your job sucks, then find another line of work. I tip well (typically 20%), but if you hate your job enough to write a book about it, quit fucking whining about it and give your notice like a goddamn adult.

    Tips make it worth it. No joke.

    Then you are paid to take the abuse and shouldn't complain. Either way, the dude is a whiny bitch.

    No, see, that's the thing. A whole lot of people don't pay you to take their abusiveness. In fact, the abusive ones are the ones not paying you, generally.

    A large portion of his complaints are about other employees at the restaurant.

    So you can't complain about coworkers now? Really?

    You totally can, and I won't fault you for it. But if the complaints are varied and constant enough to keep a regular blog going for four years, then you should probably man up and quit your horrible job, or realize that horrible coworkers and customers are precisely what you are paid to deal with.

    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    Doc on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.
    Who said he isn't happy? I deal with complaint worthy stuff every day, I just don't tell the world about it.

    Quid on
  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    wazilla on
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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.
    Who said he isn't happy? I deal with complaint worthy stuff every day, I just don't tell the world about it.

    I think the appeal is that dining is a universal element, whether you have worked in waitering or are interested in hearing the other side. I don't think there be much of a market for DATA MINING ANALYSIS RANTS

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    I applaud him for making money on his whining, actually. But it's just that: whining. Nobody is holding a gun to his head to force him to stay a waiter, and I think that point is largely lost upon his audience.

    Doc on
  • AdrienAdrien Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    I think it's cooler if you read it as Wait Errant.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Podly wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.
    Who said he isn't happy? I deal with complaint worthy stuff every day, I just don't tell the world about it.

    I think the appeal is that dining is a universal element, whether you have worked in waitering or are interested in hearing the other side. I don't think there be much of a market for DATA MINING ANALYSIS RANTS
    Man, people would queue for hours to hear my blogs on why I can't stand people that're getting DD 214s who don't bring their pre seperation checklists or update their NAVPERS 1070/4.

    That shit's fucking gold.

    Quid on
  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    I applaud him for making money on his whining, actually. But it's just that: whining. Nobody is holding a gun to his head to force him to stay a waiter, and I think that point is largely lost upon his audience.

    So if you enjoy something overall, you're not allowed to complain about the unnecessary shit jackasses subject you to?

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Adrien wrote: »
    I think it's cooler if you read it as Wait Errant.

    http://therapistfinder.com/

    Doc on
  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    I applaud him for making money on his whining, actually. But it's just that: whining. Nobody is holding a gun to his head to force him to stay a waiter, and I think that point is largely lost upon his audience.

    I think that the food service industry has this argument applied to it more than any other. It's weird. It's often hard to get a job that makes a comparable amount of money with just as little education/training required. His bills may, indeed, be forcing him to stay there.

    You're likely right though, nobody is forcing him to but that doesn't really have an impact on the entertainment value. I think his message resonates with enough people who have had shitty jobs that they had to keep for some reason or another that he doesn't need to address the issue you bring up.

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  • AdrienAdrien Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Adrien wrote: »
    I think it's cooler if you read it as Wait Errant.

    http://therapistfinder.com/

    The pictures on that are priceless.

    Adrien on
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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    I applaud him for making money on his whining, actually. But it's just that: whining. Nobody is holding a gun to his head to force him to stay a waiter, and I think that point is largely lost upon his audience.

    So if you enjoy something overall, you're not allowed to complain about the unnecessary shit jackasses subject you to?

    When did I try to stop him from complaining? I just called him a whiner, because he clearly likes the money enough to stick around, but doesn't seem to understand that the reason that being a waiter is a skilled profession (and their income reflects it) is the ability to deal with exactly the shit he is posting about. If waiters didn't have to deal with horrible situations, anyone could do it and the pay would be significantly worse than it is now.

    Doc on
  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    He is dealing with the situations. He's also complaining about them afterwards. Servers do it every night when closing out.

    Quid on
  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Why is he whining?

    He's chronicling his life as a waiter. He's not asking for anyone to give him anything, he's not begging for sympathy, he's not crusading for change in the industry. He's just blogging about it.

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  • wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    edited April 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    Why is he whining?

    He's chronicling his life as a waiter. He's not asking for anyone to give him anything, he's not begging for sympathy, he's not crusading for change in the industry. He's just blogging about it.

    Yeah, but...


    whinily
    There is a real word that could go there... but this one is better.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    He is dealing with the situations. He's also complaining about them afterwards. Servers do it every night when closing out.

    I know he is. The blog's purpose is more or less "oh look how horrible my job is," while largely ignoring that in the face of bad tippers and assholes, he is the one putting himself in the position, because clearly it's worth it.

    Doc on
  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2008
    Doc wrote: »
    Scalfin wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    wazilla wrote: »
    Horrible customers do not pay you to deal with them. They sure as hell don't pay you to deal with your colleagues. You are paid according to the quality of the service you provide.

    And I'm saying that if the overall money isn't good enough to keep you happy, then you should quit and find a job that you will be satisfied with.

    And I'm saying that maybe he had an insightful idea and decided to capitalize on this misery his job caused him.

    I applaud him for making money on his whining, actually. But it's just that: whining. Nobody is holding a gun to his head to force him to stay a waiter, and I think that point is largely lost upon his audience.

    So if you enjoy something overall, you're not allowed to complain about the unnecessary shit jackasses subject you to?

    When did I try to stop him from complaining? I just called him a whiner, because he clearly likes the money enough to stick around, but doesn't seem to understand that the reason that being a waiter is a skilled profession (and their income reflects it) is the ability to deal with exactly the shit he is posting about. If waiters didn't have to deal with horrible situations, anyone could do it and the pay would be significantly worse than it is now.

    So if you have a good job, but the guy nearby keeps smoking indoors, complaining about the jackass is whining?

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