Ikariam: a new era of Pax Arcadia arises

thisisntwally · April 2008

Kalkino wrote: »

thisisntwally wrote: »

cool, I thought i'd read that the fleet moves slower. I suppose that was just accounting for the ensuing battle.

You are right, but that only matters if there is a defending fleet. If there isn't a defending fleet then the blockade isn't needed, not unless you want to fuck with him

what? me play head games? never!
what do you think about trading some of my marble for glass 1:1? could i get a better deal from this guy?

edit: im going to talk to the major Marble states and set prices at double, it looks like everyones gonna start needing it after level 3 right?

focused7 wrote: »

A lot of times I'll just send a single pillage guy, check the travel time and instantly recall him. Then I make a mental note of when I need to log on to send my pillagers according to how long the blockade crew has left in it's travel.

thats a hot idea!

Baidol · April 2008

Kalkino wrote: »

thisisntwally wrote: »

focused7 wrote: »

Someone genius sent a pillage group of 11 guys and a blockade of 2 ships towards my capital. My capital which currently has 20 flamethrowers and 5 ballista ships in port. Then 40 swordsmen, 10 Phalanax and 20 archers. He also failed to send the blockade ahead of the pillage group so his pillagers were promptly rejected.

In response I launched 15 ships to blockade his harbor for a couple of hours. I may or may not pillage him depending on what he has sitting in his warehouse.

about this...I just sent out a blockade, how long should i wait to send out ground forces. (its the island next door, and as a recall a shipment of resources would have taken 40 minutes)

I guess it would depend on the size of the fleets fighting.

Oh and I think I'm being greedy - I have 7 pillages on the go:)

Pshaw. Only seven?

Bulwark · April 2008

...man, I really need to apply to NPAX.

That aside, observation time. I've made some pretty different strategic choices from most of you guys, judging by the comments here. Instead of making a tight, dense colony network that could quickly shuffle goods around from colony to colony, I spaced my colonies a good ways apart (four to ten hour travel times). The idea was that it would be easier for me to ship things to various other players in different locations, but in practice, the main advantage it's given me is that each of my cities has access to a different swathe of raiding targets.

As a result, I've pretty much constantly got nine continuous pillaging missions going on, and I haven't even bothered to hit anyone but inactives yet. Once I do the next wave of town hall upgrades, the extra action points will put me at twelve simultaneous pillaging runs, which will probably (ironically?) prompt me to start hitting active players just to avoid getting attention from the moderators or whatever their appropriate name is for "bashing" the good targets I've found.

Needless to say, hella lucrative.

Kalkino · April 2008

Baidol wrote: »

Kalkino wrote: »

thisisntwally wrote: »

focused7 wrote: »

Someone genius sent a pillage group of 11 guys and a blockade of 2 ships towards my capital. My capital which currently has 20 flamethrowers and 5 ballista ships in port. Then 40 swordsmen, 10 Phalanax and 20 archers. He also failed to send the blockade ahead of the pillage group so his pillagers were promptly rejected.

In response I launched 15 ships to blockade his harbor for a couple of hours. I may or may not pillage him depending on what he has sitting in his warehouse.

about this...I just sent out a blockade, how long should i wait to send out ground forces. (its the island next door, and as a recall a shipment of resources would have taken 40 minutes)

I guess it would depend on the size of the fleets fighting.

Oh and I think I'm being greedy - I have 7 pillages on the go:)

Pshaw. Only seven?

Well actually I'd only usually have 3-4 going, as I only have 25 ships. However the targets have been providing less resources of late, so I need to send more to get the same

skarsol · April 2008

focused7 wrote: »

A lot of times I'll just send a single pillage guy, check the travel time and instantly recall him. Then I make a mental note of when I need to log on to send my pillagers according to how long the blockade crew has left in it's travel.

When you click pillage it tells you the travel time. No need to actually send anything.

Darian · April 2008

skarsol wrote: »

focused7 wrote: »

A lot of times I'll just send a single pillage guy, check the travel time and instantly recall him. Then I make a mental note of when I need to log on to send my pillagers according to how long the blockade crew has left in it's travel.

When you click pillage it tells you the travel time. No need to actually send anything.

But after you click, it gives you the arrival time. No need to actually do any math :P

skarsol · April 2008

Darian wrote: »

skarsol wrote: »

focused7 wrote: »

A lot of times I'll just send a single pillage guy, check the travel time and instantly recall him. Then I make a mental note of when I need to log on to send my pillagers according to how long the blockade crew has left in it's travel.

When you click pillage it tells you the travel time. No need to actually send anything.

But after you click, it gives you the arrival time. No need to actually do any math :P

Math is haaaaard.

Darian · April 2008

skarsol wrote: »

Math is haaaaard.

That's what my students tell me.

maturin · April 2008

Bulwark wrote: »

...man, I really need to apply to NPAX.

That aside, observation time. I've made some pretty different strategic choices from most of you guys, judging by the comments here. Instead of making a tight, dense colony network that could quickly shuffle goods around from colony to colony, I spaced my colonies a good ways apart (four to ten hour travel times). The idea was that it would be easier for me to ship things to various other players in different locations, but in practice, the main advantage it's given me is that each of my cities has access to a different swathe of raiding targets.

As a result, I've pretty much constantly got nine continuous pillaging missions going on, and I haven't even bothered to hit anyone but inactives yet. Once I do the next wave of town hall upgrades, the extra action points will put me at twelve simultaneous pillaging runs, which will probably (ironically?) prompt me to start hitting active players just to avoid getting attention from the moderators or whatever their appropriate name is for "bashing" the good targets I've found.

Needless to say, hella lucrative.

I'm pretty sure bashing is hitting a target more than 6 times in a rolling 24 hour period. Bashing is waived during alliance wars, but have to be approved by a GO. That being said If I'm wrong hopefully someone can correct me :P

edit- Wait are you hitting inactive targets more than 6 times in 24 hours?

Tamorlane · April 2008

Does bashing apply to inactives at all? I know it sounds obvious, but if the inactive was to log back on within that 48 hour cycle, would the bashing be upheld?

maturin · April 2008

Tamorlane wrote: »

Does bashing apply to inactives at all? I know it sounds obvious, but if the inactive was to log back on within that 48 hour cycle, would the bashing be upheld?

I have no idea. I have had 2 targets come back from being inactive. \\o// Their poor towns! :winky:

Darian · April 2008

Tamorlane wrote: »

Does bashing apply to inactives at all? I know it sounds obvious, but if the inactive was to log back on within that 48 hour cycle, would the bashing be upheld?

Yes, it applies. If a GO happens to check it and notice, you'll get a temp-ban, if not a perma-ban.

Bulwark · April 2008

maturin wrote: »

edit- Wait are you hitting inactive targets more than 6 times in 24 hours?

Look, I'm not going to lie. Seven boatloads of loot and over 10k gold with no resistance is enough to destroy any shred of willpower I possess. Perhaps what any man could possess. I haven't been keeping close track - I've tried to keep my targets in rotation and not just pillage my beloved resource depots over and over again, but I've probably gone to 7 or 8 in the strict 24-hour period for a couple. I don't know if that stuff is automatically tracked or if it has to be reported.

TheSinisterMinister · April 2008

Cyrixd wrote: »

Okay, would anyone nearby/anyone at all help me with a revenge mission?

I started my girlfriend on Ikariam, and she's not a big gamer at all so she's very new to this. She's having fun upgrading her buildings and collecting resources, but she just got pillaged by some guy from TDE. His military score is 9k, and I think mine is 22k so I should be able to take him.

I'm sending a spy right now, and I'm going to blockade his harbor soon. Would anyone, specifically the people near me (Becoming/Kajusta/ anyone near 40:80), please help me in my mission? Either by sending troops, ships or supplies.

And before I act, do I need the permission of higher powers incase this sparks some alliance war thing? I'm just pissed that he pillaged her, especially after I sent her a ton of resources to start up.

EDIT: TDE is ranked 680. They have 3 members. http://s2.ikariam.com/index.php?view=allyPage&allyId=2706&oldView=searchAlly&id=96954&position=7

I shall pillage their women, and rape their resources.

PiptheFair · April 2008

Ok, update

That guy that got really butthurt and sent like 18 units at me, that took 2 days to get here?

yeah, he lost 10 swordsman, 2 archers, and 1 ram

I lost one phalanx

I guess he thought it might be worth it?

his ships arrive tomorrow morning to be greeted by my fleet

Darian · April 2008

Bulwark wrote: »

maturin wrote: »

edit- Wait are you hitting inactive targets more than 6 times in 24 hours?

Look, I'm not going to lie. Seven boatloads of loot and over 10k gold with no resistance is enough to destroy any shred of willpower I possess. Perhaps what any man could possess. I haven't been keeping close track - I've tried to keep my targets in rotation and not just pillage my beloved resource depots over and over again, but I've probably gone to 7 or 8 in the strict 24-hour period for a couple. I don't know if that stuff is automatically tracked or if it has to be reported.

One of the greasemonkey scripts in the OP addresses this:
Greasemonkey script for revamping interface: http://ids.forum2go.nl/kronos-utils-...cript-t77.html

Among many other wonderful things, this script gives you a new military report, with a sortable Loot table and a calculation of the number of times you have hit each target within the last 24 hours. Highly recommended.

PiptheFair · April 2008

Necromancer sky 49:24

lvl 16 town

Troops in Necromancer sky
Unit 	Quantity
Slinger 	30
Swordsman 	20
Phalanx 	10
Catapult 	2
Ram 	1
Cook 	1
Archer 	3
	Fleets in Necromancer sky
Ship 	Quantity
Ram-Ship 	3
Flamethrower 	2
Ballista Ship 	3

maturin · April 2008

Darian wrote: »

Bulwark wrote: »

maturin wrote: »

edit- Wait are you hitting inactive targets more than 6 times in 24 hours?

Look, I'm not going to lie. Seven boatloads of loot and over 10k gold with no resistance is enough to destroy any shred of willpower I possess. Perhaps what any man could possess. I haven't been keeping close track - I've tried to keep my targets in rotation and not just pillage my beloved resource depots over and over again, but I've probably gone to 7 or 8 in the strict 24-hour period for a couple. I don't know if that stuff is automatically tracked or if it has to be reported.

One of the greasemonkey scripts in the OP addresses this:
Greasemonkey script for revamping interface: http://ids.forum2go.nl/kronos-utils-...cript-t77.html

Among many other wonderful things, this script gives you a new military report, with a sortable Loot table and a calculation of the number of times you have hit each target within the last 24 hours. Highly recommended.

I saw the script, but didn't really check what it did. Thanks for mentioning it Darian. That would really help me out also.

skarsol · April 2008

maturin wrote: »

I saw the script, but didn't really check what it did. Thanks for mentioning it Darian. That would really help me out also.

Doesn't work for me.

Tried both firefox 2 and 3, greasemonkey 7 and 8.

maturin · April 2008

skarsol wrote: »

maturin wrote: »

I saw the script, but didn't really check what it did. Thanks for mentioning it Darian. That would really help me out also.

Doesn't work for me. Tried both firefox 2 and 3, greasemonkey 7 and 8.

I had to install then uninstall then install. Some features still don't work for me. The only things that do work seem to be the levels of buildings and the current harvesting island resources on the left column. Everything else is nada.

I usually have the option for 'changing context menus' turned off. Because of the inane js context menus that wsj and nytimes have. Mouse overs still don't work for me atm. Even with all js turned on. Hmmm

Orogogus · April 2008

skarsol wrote: »

maturin wrote: »

I saw the script, but didn't really check what it did. Thanks for mentioning it Darian. That would really help me out also.

Doesn't work for me. Tried both firefox 2 and 3, greasemonkey 7 and 8.

Do you have any other greasemonkey scripts running? Kronos Utils was doing nothing for me for the longest time until I decided to shut all my scripts off and reactivate them one by one.

Tamorlane · April 2008

Is the new version of Kronos still officially "banned"?

hmxmoss · April 2008

Does it work to have multiple academies?

Not thinking so much for them combining to attack a particular field, but to have two fields (e.g. military and economy) being researched in parallel...

Tamorlane · April 2008

No, all academies contribute to the same research tree. It is *very* helpful, however....

Baidol · April 2008

No, you can only research a single technology at at time, but the research in all existing academies is cumulative.

Edit: Beaten.

Well, I'll suppose I'll add that the build time for ships is ridiculous. Over two hours for a flameship with a level six shipyard? Damn.

hmxmoss · April 2008

Tamorlane wrote: »

No, all academies contribute to the same research tree. It is *very* helpful, however....

I take by "very helpful", you mean that more than one academy can contribute to the same research tree.

Seems it would make sense, then, to build multiple ones, as the cost to double # of researchers by building a second academy would be (far?) less than upgrading just one academy, right?

Orogogus · April 2008

hmxmoss wrote: »

Tamorlane wrote: »

No, all academies contribute to the same research tree. It is *very* helpful, however....

I take by "very helpful", you mean that more than one academy can contribute to the same research tree.

Seems it would make sense, then, to build multiple ones, as the cost to double # of researchers by building a second academy would be (far?) less than upgrading just one academy, right?

Yes, this is correct.

Scooter · May 2008

It would basically be impossible to do anything with just one academy past the intro techs.

Legba · May 2008

Every one of your colonies should have an academy. Then just level them up round-robin style so they stay pretty much the same level and you'll get the most bang for your buck.

mrsnackroad · May 2008

SO, I've got museums. Could I interest any of you gentlemen in the FINEST Phallic Statues Holt and Pot Au Feu can offer?

Tamorlane · May 2008

While I realize that it is perhaps one of the most unnecessary upgrades the workshop has to offer, I am finding it hard to resist upgrading my non-existent slingers so that they have "bronze balls".

Because, you know, if I had to rely on slingers, I would surely hope that their balls were made of something sturdy....

My inner child emerges.......

devoir · May 2008

mrsnackroad wrote: »

SO, I've got museums. Could I interest any of you gentlemen in the FINEST Phallic Statues Holt and Pot Au Feu can offer?

There's an FAQ in the OP that deals with this, I think.

In other news:

20080501 Total Score

Position________Name____________Score
_740____________devoir__________14822
_820____________Mith____________14277
_870____________Darian__________13915
_894____________Skarsol_________13833
_911____________Karenna_________13773
1205____________Baidol__________12209
1650____________Kalkino_________10268
1880____________Sanderjk_________9547
1887____________Garu_____________9533
1901____________Charlemangne_____9486

20080428 Total Score

Position________Name____________Score
_949____________Skarsol_________12143
1043____________devoir__________11696
1073____________Darian__________11519
1190____________Karenna_________11020
1407____________Mith____________10095
1586____________Baidol___________9431
2081____________Kalkino__________8028
2138____________Sanderjk_________7841
2275____________Garu_____________7488
2364____________D A______________7261

Orogogus · May 2008

devoir wrote: »

mrsnackroad wrote: »

SO, I've got museums. Could I interest any of you gentlemen in the FINEST Phallic Statues Holt and Pot Au Feu can offer?

There's an FAQ in the OP that deals with this, I think.

I sent out about 20 in-game IMs for a cultural alliance treaty a week or so ago, and it took 2-6 days before people accepted.

devoir · May 2008

Orogogus wrote: »

devoir wrote: »

mrsnackroad wrote: »

SO, I've got museums. Could I interest any of you gentlemen in the FINEST Phallic Statues Holt and Pot Au Feu can offer?

There's an FAQ in the OP that deals with this, I think.

I sent out about 20 in-game IMs for a cultural alliance treaty a week or so ago, and it took 2-6 days before people accepted.

I sent out about that amount, and got half a dozen or so in the couple of hours before bed, guess I got lucky. Now I have 30 cultural goods. =D

Sonelan · May 2008

Heh so a guy I pillaged awhile ago built up a pretty big military and just sent it to my capital while I was offline. I don't think he is very bright tho since his first 68 units had no ships and thus got turned back by my fleet of 10 ships. There are another 168 units heading my way but I don't think they include ships either.

Sueve · May 2008

Sonelan wrote: »

Heh so a guy I pillaged awhile ago built up a pretty big military and just sent it to my capital while I was offline. I don't think he is very bright tho since his first 68 units had no ships and thus got turned back by my fleet of 10 ships. There are another 168 units heading my way but I don't think they include ships either.

Yoouuuu''rreeee fucked.

Actually, I have nothing else to say.

Sonelan · May 2008

Sueve wrote: »

Sonelan wrote: »

Heh so a guy I pillaged awhile ago built up a pretty big military and just sent it to my capital while I was offline. I don't think he is very bright tho since his first 68 units had no ships and thus got turned back by my fleet of 10 ships. There are another 168 units heading my way but I don't think they include ships either.

Yoouuuu''rreeee fucked.

Actually, I have nothing else to say.

Quite possible. On the other hand I killed my level 1 trade port so even if he lands troops its not like he will get anything.

UPDATE: Nope he didn't send any ships so all his 200+ people got turned back without a fight.

devoir · May 2008

Sonelan wrote: »

Sueve wrote: »

Sonelan wrote: »

Heh so a guy I pillaged awhile ago built up a pretty big military and just sent it to my capital while I was offline. I don't think he is very bright tho since his first 68 units had no ships and thus got turned back by my fleet of 10 ships. There are another 168 units heading my way but I don't think they include ships either.

Yoouuuu''rreeee fucked.

Actually, I have nothing else to say.

Quite possible. On the other hand I killed my level 1 trade port so even if he lands troops its not like he will get anything.

UPDATE: Nope he didn't send any ships so all his 200+ people got turned back without a fight.

"Hey guys, this dude hacks. He's invulnerable, I can't get any of my units into his city! I sent over 200!"

Sonelan · May 2008

devoir wrote: »

Sonelan wrote: »

Sueve wrote: »

Sonelan wrote: »

Heh so a guy I pillaged awhile ago built up a pretty big military and just sent it to my capital while I was offline. I don't think he is very bright tho since his first 68 units had no ships and thus got turned back by my fleet of 10 ships. There are another 168 units heading my way but I don't think they include ships either.

Yoouuuu''rreeee fucked.

Actually, I have nothing else to say.

Quite possible. On the other hand I killed my level 1 trade port so even if he lands troops its not like he will get anything.

UPDATE: Nope he didn't send any ships so all his 200+ people got turned back without a fight.

"Hey guys, this dude hacks. He's invulnerable, I can't get any of my units into his city! I sent over 200!"

Both of his cities he sent people from are on PA islands. Mazon zero and mazon 1st. I raided both of em then he built up a 17k military score to get back at me

Scooter · May 2008

I find it both amusing and annoying that the presence or absence of a single ram ship can make a gigantic difference in warfare.

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