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Mac Thread - G3 phone thing is out. Have you heard of it?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    rayofash wrote: »
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Is it just me or does Steve look like he lost weight? His face and neck area look so much slimmer.

    Almost anorexic, really.

    Hopefully his cancer isn't back. The last time he looked badly thin was when he was battling pancreatic cancer (and won, against the 95% odds of otherwise).

    Whoa, pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.

    I understand he had a rare, treatable form.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Septus wrote: »
    That's correct, or it was for the first gen.

    What if you already have an AT&T contact, do you still pay for activation?

    Jasconius on
  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    corcorigan wrote: »
    rayofash wrote: »
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Is it just me or does Steve look like he lost weight? His face and neck area look so much slimmer.

    Almost anorexic, really.

    Hopefully his cancer isn't back. The last time he looked badly thin was when he was battling pancreatic cancer (and won, against the 95% odds of otherwise).

    Whoa, pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.

    I understand he had a rare, treatable form.

    God, even their CEO is easy to repair.

    ben0207 on
  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    theantipop wrote: »
    theantipop wrote: »
    I was talking specifically about the activation fee for the new phone. I know occasionally you can get someone to waive this for you, especially if you're canceling with one provider to get a plan with another. I won't say it's surefire, especially for iPhones, and I wouldn't go on day one with a huge line and try to make a deal, but after the $10 increase I want to feel like I've had at least a Pyrrhic victory over the corporate greed.
    So generally what's the activation fee?

    I believe I heard $35 quoted.
    So do you think it would be something easily haggleable like if you say you'd use that activation fee to just buy more accessories for the phone?

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  • corcorigancorcorigan Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ben0207 wrote: »
    corcorigan wrote: »
    rayofash wrote: »
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Is it just me or does Steve look like he lost weight? His face and neck area look so much slimmer.

    Almost anorexic, really.

    Hopefully his cancer isn't back. The last time he looked badly thin was when he was battling pancreatic cancer (and won, against the 95% odds of otherwise).

    Whoa, pancreatic cancer is one of the worst.

    I understand he had a rare, treatable form.

    God, even their CEO is easy to repair.

    Possibly the endocrine glands of his pancreas are considered user-serviceable, so twist three screws, lift his anterior abdomen wall up, then just undo the bits with bronzed-screws and lift out.

    Anyway that's suitably taste-less. I imagine it was a very unpleasant experience for him and the stress of launching the 3G iPhone was rather minor in comparison. He's probably had flu or something.

    Gods I want a new iPhone.

    corcorigan on
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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.
    Is it worth it though? I pay a flat 50 bucks a month for my current plan but ONLY use my phone for phonecalls, and light texting. But I'd use just about all the iPhone features given the opportunity.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.
    Is it worth it though? I pay a flat 50 bucks a month for my current plan but ONLY use my phone for phonecalls, and light texting. But I'd use just about all the iPhone features given the opportunity.

    That's totally up to you, dude. All I can add in is that most iPhone users use the internet WAY more than they expect to and it really does own in that area. Seriously, when I'm at work I browse between tasks, I browse while I'm crapping in the restroom (unsanitary, I know, sue me), I browse on the bus, etc. It's really so amazingly, amazingly, amazingly convenient to essentially have a full web browser in your pocket. Sure you can't play full flash/java games, but for easy time sucks (news sites, message boards, blogs, etc.) it is an incredible resource and I truly feel as though I'll never have a boring bus ride/wait in line ever again.

    It's also really cool that 3G lets you talk and browse at the same time... talk to someone on speaker phone while looking up directions, etc.

    Put it this way, you're going to pay at least $80 a month once all's said and done (assuming you go for the texts), but you'll never find yourself twiddling your thumbs. Ever.

    Organichu on
  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.
    Is it worth it though? I pay a flat 50 bucks a month for my current plan but ONLY use my phone for phonecalls, and light texting. But I'd use just about all the iPhone features given the opportunity.

    That's totally up to you, dude. All I can add in is that most iPhone users use the internet WAY more than they expect to and it really does own in that area. Seriously, when I'm at work I browse between tasks, I browse while I'm crapping in the restroom (unsanitary, I know, sue me), I browse on the bus, etc. It's really so amazingly, amazingly, amazingly convenient to essentially have a full web browser in your pocket. Sure you can't play full flash/java games, but for easy time sucks (news sites, message boards, blogs, etc.) it is an incredible resource and I truly feel as though I'll never have a boring bus ride/wait in line ever again.

    It's also really cool that 3G lets you talk and browse at the same time... talk to someone on speaker phone while looking up directions, etc.

    Put it this way, you're going to pay at least $80 a month once all's said and done (assuming you go for the texts), but you'll never find yourself twiddling your thumbs. Ever.
    The guys at the Apple store said that the new one will address all those flash issues. I like what I'm hearing, it's just a WHOLE lot of money that I'm going to be spending for a period of a couple of years so I like to just be driven into the ground with convincing.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.
    Is it worth it though? I pay a flat 50 bucks a month for my current plan but ONLY use my phone for phonecalls, and light texting. But I'd use just about all the iPhone features given the opportunity.

    That's totally up to you, dude. All I can add in is that most iPhone users use the internet WAY more than they expect to and it really does own in that area. Seriously, when I'm at work I browse between tasks, I browse while I'm crapping in the restroom (unsanitary, I know, sue me), I browse on the bus, etc. It's really so amazingly, amazingly, amazingly convenient to essentially have a full web browser in your pocket. Sure you can't play full flash/java games, but for easy time sucks (news sites, message boards, blogs, etc.) it is an incredible resource and I truly feel as though I'll never have a boring bus ride/wait in line ever again.

    It's also really cool that 3G lets you talk and browse at the same time... talk to someone on speaker phone while looking up directions, etc.

    Put it this way, you're going to pay at least $80 a month once all's said and done (assuming you go for the texts), but you'll never find yourself twiddling your thumbs. Ever.
    The guys at the Apple store said that the new one will address all those flash issues. I like what I'm hearing, it's just a WHOLE lot of money that I'm going to be spending for a period of a couple of years so I like to just be driven into the ground with convincing.

    Uhh really, on the Flash issues? Steve Jobs said not two months ago that Flash was in no state to be put on the iPhone.

    The current rumor that I have read is that Apple will be selling off its video editing software division and buying Adobe sometime near 2009, at which point it will most likely optimize Flash for the iPhone.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Septus wrote: »
    That's correct, or it was for the first gen.

    What if you already have an AT&T contact, do you still pay for activation?

    Yes.

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  • ufoufo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    about the monthly price of the iphone i hate to remind people but add on at the minimum $10 more to the cost. i know all the ridiculous taxes on mine add on around $15 bucks a month.

    ufo on
  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited June 2008
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    Damn I want this thing so bad, but I'm saving up the down payment for my first home... I did swear I was going to replace my stolen iPod though and this is an excuse to get a new phone, so with a 16gig iPhone and the phone plan what would I be looking at total? I want basic phone, unlimited data, and basic text. Do they charge insane rates for long distance?

    Most basic phone service, unlimited data, and smallest text package (this is assuming for the 3G iPhone) would be $299 for the hardware out the door, $36 activation fee, and $74.99/month before fees and taxes each month.
    Is it worth it though? I pay a flat 50 bucks a month for my current plan but ONLY use my phone for phonecalls, and light texting. But I'd use just about all the iPhone features given the opportunity.

    That's totally up to you, dude. All I can add in is that most iPhone users use the internet WAY more than they expect to and it really does own in that area. Seriously, when I'm at work I browse between tasks, I browse while I'm crapping in the restroom (unsanitary, I know, sue me), I browse on the bus, etc. It's really so amazingly, amazingly, amazingly convenient to essentially have a full web browser in your pocket. Sure you can't play full flash/java games, but for easy time sucks (news sites, message boards, blogs, etc.) it is an incredible resource and I truly feel as though I'll never have a boring bus ride/wait in line ever again.

    It's also really cool that 3G lets you talk and browse at the same time... talk to someone on speaker phone while looking up directions, etc.

    Put it this way, you're going to pay at least $80 a month once all's said and done (assuming you go for the texts), but you'll never find yourself twiddling your thumbs. Ever.
    The guys at the Apple store said that the new one will address all those flash issues. I like what I'm hearing, it's just a WHOLE lot of money that I'm going to be spending for a period of a couple of years so I like to just be driven into the ground with convincing.

    Uhh really, on the Flash issues? Steve Jobs said not two months ago that Flash was in no state to be put on the iPhone.

    The current rumor that I have read is that Apple will be selling off its video editing software division and buying Adobe sometime near 2009, at which point it will most likely optimize Flash for the iPhone.

    Jesus.

    If Apple buys adobe, expect large portions of the design community to shit a brick.

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  • theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Does anyone have confirmation that the new $70/month 3g iPhone plan does not include a small amount of texts like the old plan? I've heard about the $10 data increase from numerous outlets, but no mention of dropping the 200 or so included texts.

    theantipop on
  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    theantipop wrote: »
    Does anyone have confirmation that the new $70/month 3g iPhone plan does not include a small amount of texts like the old plan? I've heard about the $10 data increase from numerous outlets, but no mention of dropping the 200 or so included texts.

    Come to think of it, I haven't seen it 'officially' either. I think I just read it on this forum.

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  • ufoufo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    reports seem to be conflicted. however if the 200 texts remain ill be fine with that, even though ill still pay more for more texts.

    ufo on
  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited June 2008
    45/mo for exchange access is bullshit, plain and simple.

    I have never owned a 3G device where I paid that much for it. I do not see how they can justify it at all.

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  • iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    45/mo for exchange access is bullshit, plain and simple.

    I have never owned a 3G device where I paid that much for it. I do not see how they can justify it at all.
    Is that how they're defining "business" customers? The need for Exchange support? That's absolutely rigoddamndiculous.

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Safari 4 is out for deelopers.

    Total number of differences I've noticed: 0

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    £9.00 for a GPS navigator? Are you kidding me? (incidentally, has anyone seen the GPS in action? How does it compare to 'real' GPS devices?)
    Pretty basic, really. The tracking is GREAT, but it all happens on google maps at the moment, which is the suck when you are driving.

    But do not fear, TomTom already has a version of their software running on the new iPhone, and plan to release it to the app store at some point in the near term.

    Hmm, so is it basically just a better version of the triangulation feature on the current iPhone Google maps (Which I guess triangulates your current position via cellphone masts but as a result isn't always very accurate)? Does it continue to track you as you move or is it a 'press button to locate yourself on map' deal only? Does it give verbal directions if you're driving?

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    syndalis wrote: »
    Jesus.

    If Apple buys adobe, expect large portions of the design community to shit a brick.

    In a good way or a bad way?

    Szechuanosaurus on
  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    theantipop wrote: »
    Does anyone have confirmation that the new $70/month 3g iPhone plan does not include a small amount of texts like the old plan? I've heard about the $10 data increase from numerous outlets, but no mention of dropping the 200 or so included texts.

    Come to think of it, I haven't seen it 'officially' either. I think I just read it on this forum.

    I think what they are saying is that the iPhone special access plan is no longer available for the 3G model. So you have to pick up AT&T's standard smartphone internet access plan, which does not include text messages so you have to pick up a text message plan as well if you want to use it.


    syndalis wrote: »
    £9.00 for a GPS navigator? Are you kidding me? (incidentally, has anyone seen the GPS in action? How does it compare to 'real' GPS devices?)
    Pretty basic, really. The tracking is GREAT, but it all happens on google maps at the moment, which is the suck when you are driving.

    But do not fear, TomTom already has a version of their software running on the new iPhone, and plan to release it to the app store at some point in the near term.

    Hmm, so is it basically just a better version of the triangulation feature on the current iPhone Google maps (Which I guess triangulates your current position via cellphone masts but as a result isn't always very accurate)? Does it continue to track you as you move or is it a 'press button to locate yourself on map' deal only? Does it give verbal directions if you're driving?

    From what I've heard/read it's a GPS receiver that supplements that data with cellular triangulation when not enough satellites can pinpoint you, as well as known wifi hotspots, however that works.
    Supposedly, the new software tracks you live on the map. I haven't heard if it gives verbal directions or not.

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Quick question for Mac users. I'm thinking of getting a 15" 2.4 Ghz Macbook pro to use for editing video in Final Cut Express. My wife and I are upgrading from a 17" 1.3Ghz Powerbook G4 which has worked GREAT for editing video in iMovie but we want something a little smaller and more portable. Also, we'll be editing 1080i HD...

    My question is this.. will I notice a big performance increase if I grab the 7200RPM 200GB Drive over the 5400 RPM? Just about everything will be stored on external Firewire drives, or external USB 2 drives while editing so I'm not really sure if it'll make a huge difference.

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  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Quick question for Mac users. I'm thinking of getting a 15" 2.4 Ghz Macbook pro to use for editing video in Final Cut Express. My wife and I are upgrading from a 17" 1.3Ghz Powerbook G4 which has worked GREAT for editing video in iMovie but we want something a little smaller and more portable. Also, we'll be editing 1080i HD...

    My question is this.. will I notice a big performance increase if I grab the 7200RPM 200GB Drive over the 5400 RPM? Just about everything will be stored on external Firewire drives, or external USB 2 drives while editing so I'm not really sure if it'll make a huge difference.

    Notice? Probably not if you are working on external hard drives most of the time.

    If you were to put movies on the internal drive while working on them, then store them externally, then yes, you would notice a difference. Especially considering they are HD, movies, and huge.

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  • theantipoptheantipop Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    £9.00 for a GPS navigator? Are you kidding me? (incidentally, has anyone seen the GPS in action? How does it compare to 'real' GPS devices?)
    Pretty basic, really. The tracking is GREAT, but it all happens on google maps at the moment, which is the suck when you are driving.

    But do not fear, TomTom already has a version of their software running on the new iPhone, and plan to release it to the app store at some point in the near term.

    Hmm, so is it basically just a better version of the triangulation feature on the current iPhone Google maps (Which I guess triangulates your current position via cellphone masts but as a result isn't always very accurate)? Does it continue to track you as you move or is it a 'press button to locate yourself on map' deal only? Does it give verbal directions if you're driving?

    From what I've heard/read it's a GPS receiver that supplements that data with cellular triangulation when not enough satellites can pinpoint you, as well as known wifi hotspots, however that works.
    Supposedly, the new software tracks you live on the map. I haven't heard if it gives verbal directions or not.

    There's a video of it in action on the 3g iPhone page on Apple's stie. Also my friend with a 1st gen iphone brought up a good point: GPS with Google maps will be useless when you don't have cell reception. Google maps loads dynamically so if you can't get data, it won't load up any map to track you on. That's what I'm guessing TomTom will do for its app, preloading of maps, which makes me wonder how much it will cost.

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  • Vater5BVater5B Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    So my wife is still on her family's plan from ATT because it only costs her like $10 a month for service. If she were to get an iPhone, would she only have to pay the thirty a month for data?

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    theantipop wrote: »
    There's a video of it in action on the 3g iPhone page on Apple's stie. Also my friend with a 1st gen iphone brought up a good point: GPS with Google maps will be useless when you don't have cell reception. Google maps loads dynamically so if you can't get data, it won't load up any map to track you on. That's what I'm guessing TomTom will do for its app, preloading of maps, which makes me wonder how much it will cost.

    The big question is, if I jailbreak it, will I be able to get an app. that hijacks the GPS satellites and turns the iPhone into a satellite phone?


    Probably not, I doubt GPS satellites would work that way.

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    GPS satellites just bombard the earth with time data. Your lil' gps receiver takes that data and triangulates its position.

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Quick question for Mac users. I'm thinking of getting a 15" 2.4 Ghz Macbook pro to use for editing video in Final Cut Express. My wife and I are upgrading from a 17" 1.3Ghz Powerbook G4 which has worked GREAT for editing video in iMovie but we want something a little smaller and more portable. Also, we'll be editing 1080i HD...

    My question is this.. will I notice a big performance increase if I grab the 7200RPM 200GB Drive over the 5400 RPM? Just about everything will be stored on external Firewire drives, or external USB 2 drives while editing so I'm not really sure if it'll make a huge difference.

    Notice? Probably not if you are working on external hard drives most of the time.

    If you were to put movies on the internal drive while working on them, then store them externally, then yes, you would notice a difference. Especially considering they are HD, movies, and huge.

    computers constantly store shit into page files. Faster HDs will always provide an increase in performance

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    mastman wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Quick question for Mac users. I'm thinking of getting a 15" 2.4 Ghz Macbook pro to use for editing video in Final Cut Express. My wife and I are upgrading from a 17" 1.3Ghz Powerbook G4 which has worked GREAT for editing video in iMovie but we want something a little smaller and more portable. Also, we'll be editing 1080i HD...

    My question is this.. will I notice a big performance increase if I grab the 7200RPM 200GB Drive over the 5400 RPM? Just about everything will be stored on external Firewire drives, or external USB 2 drives while editing so I'm not really sure if it'll make a huge difference.

    Notice? Probably not if you are working on external hard drives most of the time.

    If you were to put movies on the internal drive while working on them, then store them externally, then yes, you would notice a difference. Especially considering they are HD, movies, and huge.

    computers constantly store shit into page files. Faster HDs will always provide an increase in performance

    Given the size of video files, though, it's not like they would notice it without getting both, comparing with a stop-watch, and then deciding. Plenty of people do video work on 5400 laptop drives with few complaints, because waiting an extra 10 seconds for a clip to load into your video editor, when the baseline wait time is something like 2 minutes, isn't going to affect much.

    I don't notice any real-world difference between my external FW800 drives and FW400 drives, and I've tested them out w/ the other unplugged to see if there was any real difference in doing my backups. Sure, a few seconds here or there, but there's always another bottleneck somewhere that slows things down and reduces the general speed improvements. Yes, 7200 drives are faster in general, but is it worth $100?

    I can't answer that. To me, yes. To my sister, no.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The big question is, if I jailbreak it, will I be able to get an app. that hijacks the GPS satellites and turns the iPhone into a satellite phone?


    Probably not, I doubt GPS satellites would work that way.

    o_O

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    EggyToast wrote: »
    mastman wrote: »
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Quick question for Mac users. I'm thinking of getting a 15" 2.4 Ghz Macbook pro to use for editing video in Final Cut Express. My wife and I are upgrading from a 17" 1.3Ghz Powerbook G4 which has worked GREAT for editing video in iMovie but we want something a little smaller and more portable. Also, we'll be editing 1080i HD...

    My question is this.. will I notice a big performance increase if I grab the 7200RPM 200GB Drive over the 5400 RPM? Just about everything will be stored on external Firewire drives, or external USB 2 drives while editing so I'm not really sure if it'll make a huge difference.

    Notice? Probably not if you are working on external hard drives most of the time.

    If you were to put movies on the internal drive while working on them, then store them externally, then yes, you would notice a difference. Especially considering they are HD, movies, and huge.

    computers constantly store shit into page files. Faster HDs will always provide an increase in performance

    Given the size of video files, though, it's not like they would notice it without getting both, comparing with a stop-watch, and then deciding. Plenty of people do video work on 5400 laptop drives with few complaints, because waiting an extra 10 seconds for a clip to load into your video editor, when the baseline wait time is something like 2 minutes, isn't going to affect much.

    I don't notice any real-world difference between my external FW800 drives and FW400 drives, and I've tested them out w/ the other unplugged to see if there was any real difference in doing my backups. Sure, a few seconds here or there, but there's always another bottleneck somewhere that slows things down and reduces the general speed improvements. Yes, 7200 drives are faster in general, but is it worth $100?

    I can't answer that. To me, yes. To my sister, no.

    I liked the idea of the 250GB 5400RPM Drive because that extra 50GB would be nice for pr0n, WoW, and some music. But really, it sounds like the 7200RPM would be better for my video editing needs, and I can always add space with external drives.

    I know a 15" MacBook Pro isn't exactly ideal for editing in HD, but the only other option in my price range would be a 24" imac and I really like the idea of something more portable.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
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    So something's been bugging me... the new iPhone, like the old iPhone, doesn't support sending images directly from cell to cell.

    Why the hell not? Is there a technical reason for this, or is this an example of when Apple's "thinking differently" flies against logic. (See: one-button mouse.)

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So something's been bugging me... the new iPhone, like the old iPhone, doesn't support sending images directly from cell to cell.

    Why the hell not? Is there a technical reason for this, or is this an example of when Apple's "thinking differently" flies against logic. (See: one-button mouse.)

    It doesn't make sense to me either. When I want to send a message from my phone to someone it has to go through Email. With other iphone users they usually pick it up on their phone, but for anyone else they have to wait 'till they can check their Email.
    And when someone sends a picture to my iPhone from any other cell phone, it comes as a text message from at&t telling me to log into a special website to view the picture they just sent.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So something's been bugging me... the new iPhone, like the old iPhone, doesn't support sending images directly from cell to cell.

    Why the hell not? Is there a technical reason for this, or is this an example of when Apple's "thinking differently" flies against logic. (See: one-button mouse.)

    It doesn't make sense to me either. When I want to send a message from my phone to someone it has to go through Email. With other iphone users they usually pick it up on their phone, but for anyone else they have to wait 'till they can check their Email.
    And when someone sends a picture to my iPhone from any other cell phone, it comes as a text message from at&t telling me to log into a special website to view the picture they just sent.

    Ah, so you can still receive pictures, it's just got several unnecessary steps to get to it. I'm assuming you can log into the special site on the iPhone itself to get the picture? Also, would it be possible to pop the SIM card out of the iPhone and put it in another phone temporarily if you have to transmit images via cell? I have to do this once in a blue moon.

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  • LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    (See: one-button mouse.)

    I'll bite.

    The one button mouse was a deliberate design decision based on research that showed a majority of people did not use the right mouse button. They didn't understand the difference between a right-click and a left-click, they just clicked. The number of computer-illiterate people like that is now much smaller than it used to be.

    The one-button mouse continued in order to force developers to not hide functionality in contextual menus that a certain amount of people would never see: this is why 10.4 (or maybe 10.3) introduced the cog wheel button which acts as a right-click.

    I never used a one-button mouse, and Mac OS X has always supported multi-button mice. Those who wanted it got it, those who didn't were no worse off.

    I think they underestimated the intelligence of their audience, but there were "good" reasons behind it.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lewisham wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    (See: one-button mouse.)

    I'll bite.

    The one button mouse was a deliberate design decision based on research that showed a majority of people did not use the right mouse button. They didn't understand the difference between a right-click and a left-click, they just clicked. The number of computer-illiterate people like that is now much smaller than it used to be.

    The one-button mouse continued in order to force developers to not hide functionality in contextual menus that a certain amount of people would never see: this is why 10.4 (or maybe 10.3) introduced the cog wheel button which acts as a right-click.

    I never used a one-button mouse, and Mac OS X has always supported multi-button mice. Those who wanted it got it, those who didn't were no worse off.

    I think they underestimated the intelligence of their audience, but there were "good" reasons behind it.

    I can understand the potential logic behind it, but the "Mighty Mouse" isn't a good solution and their laptops STILL just have one button for their mouse controls. They should just get over their pride and do something the PC side did first considering even Mac fans expect to have to buy third-party mice.

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  • JimJimBinksJimJimBinks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So something's been bugging me... the new iPhone, like the old iPhone, doesn't support sending images directly from cell to cell.

    Why the hell not? Is there a technical reason for this, or is this an example of when Apple's "thinking differently" flies against logic. (See: one-button mouse.)

    It doesn't make sense to me either. When I want to send a message from my phone to someone it has to go through Email. With other iphone users they usually pick it up on their phone, but for anyone else they have to wait 'till they can check their Email.
    And when someone sends a picture to my iPhone from any other cell phone, it comes as a text message from at&t telling me to log into a special website to view the picture they just sent.

    Ah, so you can still receive pictures, it's just got several unnecessary steps to get to it. I'm assuming you can log into the special site on the iPhone itself to get the picture?
    Also, would it be possible to pop the SIM card out of the iPhone and put it in another phone temporarily if you have to transmit images via cell? I have to do this once in a blue moon.

    Nope, this isn't possible. the "www.viewmymessage.com" site shows you the picture, video, or whatever you're being sent in flash. The iPhone can't view it. You actually have to go to a computer to view what people send you via MMS.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    So something's been bugging me... the new iPhone, like the old iPhone, doesn't support sending images directly from cell to cell.

    Why the hell not? Is there a technical reason for this, or is this an example of when Apple's "thinking differently" flies against logic. (See: one-button mouse.)

    It doesn't make sense to me either. When I want to send a message from my phone to someone it has to go through Email. With other iphone users they usually pick it up on their phone, but for anyone else they have to wait 'till they can check their Email.
    And when someone sends a picture to my iPhone from any other cell phone, it comes as a text message from at&t telling me to log into a special website to view the picture they just sent.

    Ah, so you can still receive pictures, it's just got several unnecessary steps to get to it. I'm assuming you can log into the special site on the iPhone itself to get the picture?
    Also, would it be possible to pop the SIM card out of the iPhone and put it in another phone temporarily if you have to transmit images via cell? I have to do this once in a blue moon.

    Nope, this isn't possible. the "www.viewmymessage.com" site shows you the picture, video, or whatever you're being sent in flash. The iPhone can't view it. You actually have to go to a computer to view what people send you via MMS.

    Oh fer...

    Apple. A company with a lot of really, really great ideas and a few truly horrible ones.

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