Ok, Pendulum - Hold Your Colours is a FANTASTIC album. How have I gone my entire life without this? Was I ever really living? It's that good.
More like this. This could possibly top Underworld's Beaucoup Fish as my favorite album of all time, provided it stays this awesome over time.
The thing I like about the album is that most of (if not all) the songs got a bit of a kick to it, where the buildup is strong followed by a fantastic delivery. A lot of the time the kick-off is rather unorthodox, but works beautifully ("Fasten Your Seatbelts" is a prime example of this). It's one of the few times i've heard a song and said "holy shit."
This is why Pendulum is my favorite electronic group.
I've listened to it like, 3 times through now (broken up by work stuff), but every track on here is gold. Willy Wonka nearly blew my mind.
I remember last techno thread people were all poo-poo ing Pendulum for being too "mainstream" or something :P
What? o_O
There's a million reasons a band can suck, but being too mainstream?
I can see the complaint of a band going mainstream, meaning one appreciated the sound being unique on early albums and getting more conventional, but I didn't know a band could start that way.
I think that the internet has been for years on the path to creating what is essentially an electronic Necronomicon: A collection of blasphemous unrealities so perverse that to even glimpse at its contents, if but for a moment, is to irrevocably forfeit a portion of your sanity.
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]I completely 100% agree with what you say about dance becoming more accepted by the masses. I don't like all of their stuff but I'll always love Pendulum for getting the dnb sound in the record charts and creating the best-selling crossover album of all time. (Their new stuff is pure crap but that's neither here nor there...)
The balkanization of electronic music into narrower and narrower subgenres strikes me as semantic wankery. You take a house track, drop every third beat, add some near-subsonic bass and a snare drum and that makes it a different subgenre? What's wrong with just using adjectives or (god forbid) comparisons to prior artists instead of increasingly complicated subgenre labels?
I'm okay with one level of subgenres: drum and bass, trance, breakbeat, etc. Other than that the labels hurt more than help. Dissecting it too much... that way, madness lies.
And the overarching genre? I'm cool with calling it techno. Electronica works for me, but I know some people hate that term. "Electronic dance music" is cumbersome and "intelligent dance music" is pretentious.
You don't do much record shopping do you? Cause the sub genres help when trying to find the stuff you like when browsing record samples/records. I agree you don't need to have the 'minmal funky tech house' label, but even just saying funky house says a lot more than house. I don't listen to stuff and go 'well I would call it blah blah' and then get into a disagreement about why it's that genre, I peg it to a sub genre so I can go online and find similar music or ask the guy at the record store what he would suggest that's similar.
Also when reading flyers to find out if you want to see a dj you've never heard before a note of the subgenre they spin helps.
And the overarching genre? I'm cool with calling it techno. Electronica works for me, but I know some people hate that term. "Electronic dance music" is cumbersome and "intelligent dance music" is pretentious.
Electronica's always been what I've called it too.
The balkanization of electronic music into narrower and narrower subgenres strikes me as semantic wankery. You take a house track, drop every third beat, add some near-subsonic bass and a snare drum and that makes it a different subgenre? What's wrong with just using adjectives or (god forbid) comparisons to prior artists instead of increasingly complicated subgenre labels?
I'm okay with one level of subgenres: drum and bass, trance, breakbeat, etc. Other than that the labels hurt more than help. Dissecting it too much... that way, madness lies.
And the overarching genre? I'm cool with calling it techno. Electronica works for me, but I know some people hate that term. "Electronic dance music" is cumbersome and "intelligent dance music" is pretentious.
You don't do much record shopping do you? Cause the sub genres help when trying to find the stuff you like when browsing record samples/records.
Not since about 2002, no. I have the Internet now. If I'm looking for something with a specific style, I can go into last.fm, Pandora, or Amazon and get recommendations that way. Granted, I don't spin, so obviously I'm saying this as a consumer and not a DJ.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I'm sort of surprised that this time of year, we have a thread that's talking about techno, but people haven't mentioned a pretty big annual even that's up and coming in a few weeks
I've been wanting to go to this for years, but I live far away and each year, I either don't have the time, money, or interested friends to make it. I've heard that it isn't as good lately as the older ones, but you hear that about every festival.
Is there anyone who can let me know about the lowdown on this event? I swear I'm going to make it one year. One problem is that people around here aren't very interested in techo, so they're more likely to go to winter music conference in Miami as their big "I like electronic music" trip. Miami is also a bit closer to ATL than Detroit, but I always look at the DEMF line up and wish I could see some of those people either for the first time or again knowing they'd never come here.
Whoever recommended that DJ Krush & Toshinori Kondo... I love you. This album is all kinds of chill.
That's a hella good album. Tosh does a lot of rad stuff - check out his album "Charged" for similar but more upbeat awesomeness.
Lately I've been listening to a lot of Conelrad to chill out. The bloke does very Boards of Canada-esque music, but it's mellower. His only f/l is uploaded on his website for free, so check it out. I recommend the title track or DMB as samplers. http://munchhouse.com/conelrad/functioncreep.html
Another of my favourite mellow albums is Wisp's "NRTHNDR". The dnb style of the beats makes it more involving than most chill-out stuff, but it doesn't disrupt the melancholic atmosphere. http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaPXs1UhuQo&fmt=18
I think the most recent thing I've been digging is Submerged's "Stars Light the End." Pretty intense breakbeat mixed with nu-jazz trumpet craziness. http://www.last.fm/music/Submerged/_/Frank+Booth
edit: Niceguy's post reminded me, Deepchord presents Echospace - "The Coldest Season" is another great chiller. Following the heroin house movement, these guys offer up a fuzzed-out, sleepy bliss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0mdwO6z1E&fmt=18
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I recently really got into drum and bass/jungle. The only bands I know at all though are Pendulum and Prodigy. Blood Sugar got me hooked and I could always use suggestions to flesh out my collection of music.
I recently really got into drum and bass/jungle. The only bands I know at all though are Pendulum and Prodigy. Blood Sugar got me hooked and I could always use suggestions to flesh out my collection of music.
Roni Size - New Forms was what originally blew the genre open, but IMO In Tha Mode was a more polished album.
Ed Rush & Optical - Wormhole is another essential album.
Anything Dieselboy, I rather liked Dungeonmaster's Guide.
Black Sun Empire - Cruel and Unusual is sooo gooooood. Came out in 2005, same year as Hold Your Colour. So damn good.
Anything DJ Hype, especially anything live you can find by him.
LTJ Bukem - Demon's Theme is a classic and shows that drum & bass doesn't have to feel like an audio assault all the time. If you like that, pick up Journey Inwards.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
Copied from my thread in SE++, but I've yet to see any Presets love in here:
The Presets just dropped their fantastic new album, Apocalypso:
their follow up to their also-fantastic debut album, Beams:
The Presets are an Australian electronica duo, consisting of two fashion students(?). One half of the duo has branched off into solo work as well, producing under the name of K.I.M.
If you like Tiga, Crystal Castles or Midnight Juggernauts, you should check these guys out.
Ooh, that Random sounds excellent. Any albums in particular to check out?
I hadn't heard that there was a new Presets, gonna check it.
The bad joke ep.
You can get all his stuff here http://8bitpeoples.com/ as well as about 30 other awesome albums from all sorts of people. Get Anamanguchi above all else. The most positive music ever made. I just get happy listening to it.
The Presets are fun and obnoxious, but their first album never drew me in too much. I'm interested to see how they've advanced on the new one.
If any of you have the chance, see Ming & Ping live. They're a damn fun act (dance with the cymbal monkey!) if they play in a decent sized place, and their synthpop is quite good. http://youtube.com/watch?v=teWIlR0n7og&fmt=18
edit: oh man, Random - Grey Love is orgasmic
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i've been listening to melody am for a damn long time now, one of my favorites.
I have to thank you all for introducing me to the gameboy music, and vicariously, my younger brother. He usually shows me cool shit, I got to show him some neat stuff with that band.
Okay, does anyone know the song that's in the end of Harold and Kumar 2, when the chick is doing the modeling shoot? I know it's not that great of a song, but it's going to drive me insane until I know what it is, because I swear I used to know the name.
Interesting, the 8bitpeoples' label has an article up on their site about how Crystal Castles stole samples from the 8bp artists, amongst others.
"It's recently come to light that Crystal Castles, a Toronto-based band, has been heavily sampling music from several chip music artists without obtaining permission or crediting them. Lo-bat's tracks Bibibi and Tizzy, from his 8bitpeoples release Game Boy, are just two instances of this.
As you may have noticed, we release all our music under a Creative Commons BY-NC-ND License here at 8bitpeoples. What this means is that you're free to share it however you like, with whomever you like. All we ask in return is that you credit it appropriately, do not use it for any commercial purposes, and obtain permission before creating any derivative works (such as remixing it or using it as the soundtrack for a video). Crystal Castles has violated every term of this license in their use of Lo-Bat's music. Furthermore, they have committed copyright infringement by sampling other artists such as Covox, whose drums from his song Sunday appear in no less than four Crystal Castles songs." http://www.8bitpeoples.com/
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I knew that a lot of it sounded much the same as a lot of the 8bitpeoples music, I just figured it was because a lot of chip music has a lot of the same sounds.
Looking deeper into it, people are making it out to be this huge winding conspiracy.
Benny Benassi is a guilty pleasure for me (well, some of it. He's either really on or horribly off). Who's your daddy
I was reading more about the CC thing, looks like most of the songs on their debut don't have stolen samples, and they're trying to clear the other songs so they can release them. So I guess it's not as bad as it sounds, but still. They seem to have a penchant for taking other people's work (the beaten Madonna cover), hope that changes in the future.
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I've listened to it like, 3 times through now (broken up by work stuff), but every track on here is gold. Willy Wonka nearly blew my mind.
Which one has the highest sound quality? This is important.
Technically WAV but the difference between a 320 kbps MP3 and a WAV file is imperceptible.
Assuming you're buying from beatport.com, there's no reason not to download the MP3s.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That's usually the way I listen to new artists lately.
I mentioned it first!
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Yup, scroll back through the thread for a couple that are embedded right here.
I remember last techno thread people were all poo-poo ing Pendulum for being too "mainstream" or something :P
Actually the album is pretty varied, but here are some of the standout tracks:
Slam
Hold Your Colour
Fasten Your Seatbelts
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
You have done a great service to your peers :P
What? o_O
There's a million reasons a band can suck, but being too mainstream?
I can see the complaint of a band going mainstream, meaning one appreciated the sound being unique on early albums and getting more conventional, but I didn't know a band could start that way.
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From http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=42784
You don't do much record shopping do you? Cause the sub genres help when trying to find the stuff you like when browsing record samples/records. I agree you don't need to have the 'minmal funky tech house' label, but even just saying funky house says a lot more than house. I don't listen to stuff and go 'well I would call it blah blah' and then get into a disagreement about why it's that genre, I peg it to a sub genre so I can go online and find similar music or ask the guy at the record store what he would suggest that's similar.
Also when reading flyers to find out if you want to see a dj you've never heard before a note of the subgenre they spin helps.
Electronica's always been what I've called it too.
Not since about 2002, no. I have the Internet now. If I'm looking for something with a specific style, I can go into last.fm, Pandora, or Amazon and get recommendations that way. Granted, I don't spin, so obviously I'm saying this as a consumer and not a DJ.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Detroit Electronic Music Festival
I've been wanting to go to this for years, but I live far away and each year, I either don't have the time, money, or interested friends to make it. I've heard that it isn't as good lately as the older ones, but you hear that about every festival.
Here's this year's line up
Unfortunately, their web site is a myspace page.
Is there anyone who can let me know about the lowdown on this event? I swear I'm going to make it one year. One problem is that people around here aren't very interested in techo, so they're more likely to go to winter music conference in Miami as their big "I like electronic music" trip. Miami is also a bit closer to ATL than Detroit, but I always look at the DEMF line up and wish I could see some of those people either for the first time or again knowing they'd never come here.
That's a hella good album. Tosh does a lot of rad stuff - check out his album "Charged" for similar but more upbeat awesomeness.
Lately I've been listening to a lot of Conelrad to chill out. The bloke does very Boards of Canada-esque music, but it's mellower. His only f/l is uploaded on his website for free, so check it out. I recommend the title track or DMB as samplers.
http://munchhouse.com/conelrad/functioncreep.html
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XaPXs1UhuQo&fmt=18
I think the most recent thing I've been digging is Submerged's "Stars Light the End." Pretty intense breakbeat mixed with nu-jazz trumpet craziness.
http://www.last.fm/music/Submerged/_/Frank+Booth
Some more indieish stuff
People Press Play
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8FvXZ5bk8MQ&fmt=18
Crystal Castles
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_uJ_gdEdMp8&fmt=18
edit: Niceguy's post reminded me, Deepchord presents Echospace - "The Coldest Season" is another great chiller. Following the heroin house movement, these guys offer up a fuzzed-out, sleepy bliss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0mdwO6z1E&fmt=18
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
Roni Size - New Forms was what originally blew the genre open, but IMO In Tha Mode was a more polished album.
Ed Rush & Optical - Wormhole is another essential album.
Anything Dieselboy, I rather liked Dungeonmaster's Guide.
Black Sun Empire - Cruel and Unusual is sooo gooooood. Came out in 2005, same year as Hold Your Colour. So damn good.
Anything DJ Hype, especially anything live you can find by him.
LTJ Bukem - Demon's Theme is a classic and shows that drum & bass doesn't have to feel like an audio assault all the time. If you like that, pick up Journey Inwards.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aojILsSMiUg
And here he is live.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eUXEGibxPLo&feature=related
Yes, he is one of those 8bit guys.
The Presets just dropped their fantastic new album, Apocalypso:
their follow up to their also-fantastic debut album, Beams:
The Presets are an Australian electronica duo, consisting of two fashion students(?). One half of the duo has branched off into solo work as well, producing under the name of K.I.M.
If you like Tiga, Crystal Castles or Midnight Juggernauts, you should check these guys out.
I hadn't heard that there was a new Presets, gonna check it.
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
The bad joke ep.
You can get all his stuff here http://8bitpeoples.com/ as well as about 30 other awesome albums from all sorts of people. Get Anamanguchi above all else. The most positive music ever made. I just get happy listening to it.
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=blipfest&search_type=
good times already here as well
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Word. I checked out the Presents as well, cool stuff. I must investigate further.
If any of you have the chance, see Ming & Ping live. They're a damn fun act (dance with the cymbal monkey!) if they play in a decent sized place, and their synthpop is quite good.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=teWIlR0n7og&fmt=18
edit: oh man, Random - Grey Love is orgasmic
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8m6IbItrgk&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA3E2X3kQNQ&fmt=18
Also for people posting youtube links, if you add "&fmt=18" to the end of the URL you get a higher quality stream (for many videos.)
Sellout.
I just resynced Royksopp - The Understanding to my iPod last night.
Man, 2005 was a crazy good year for electronica.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Definitely a thumbs up in my book.
The Flashbulb - Kirlian Shores
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_PUddi8NU
Unkle - Invasion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51T5A0j2ZV0
Vitalic - Bells (poor quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AhpoqTkuwY
Apparat - You Don't Know Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWuijivR6n4
teranoid & MC Natsack - gigadelic (original extended)
I have to thank you all for introducing me to the gameboy music, and vicariously, my younger brother. He usually shows me cool shit, I got to show him some neat stuff with that band.
All in all, fanatsic!
OMODAKA - "Kyoteizinc"
Experimental and just plain strange.
Check out the album Odyssey.
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"It's recently come to light that Crystal Castles, a Toronto-based band, has been heavily sampling music from several chip music artists without obtaining permission or crediting them. Lo-bat's tracks Bibibi and Tizzy, from his 8bitpeoples release Game Boy, are just two instances of this.
As you may have noticed, we release all our music under a Creative Commons BY-NC-ND License here at 8bitpeoples. What this means is that you're free to share it however you like, with whomever you like. All we ask in return is that you credit it appropriately, do not use it for any commercial purposes, and obtain permission before creating any derivative works (such as remixing it or using it as the soundtrack for a video). Crystal Castles has violated every term of this license in their use of Lo-Bat's music. Furthermore, they have committed copyright infringement by sampling other artists such as Covox, whose drums from his song Sunday appear in no less than four Crystal Castles songs."
http://www.8bitpeoples.com/
dream a little dream or you could live a little dream
sleep forever if you wish to be a dreamer
I knew that a lot of it sounded much the same as a lot of the 8bitpeoples music, I just figured it was because a lot of chip music has a lot of the same sounds.
Looking deeper into it, people are making it out to be this huge winding conspiracy.
Especially the California Dreamin' Remix.
I was reading more about the CC thing, looks like most of the songs on their debut don't have stolen samples, and they're trying to clear the other songs so they can release them. So I guess it's not as bad as it sounds, but still. They seem to have a penchant for taking other people's work (the beaten Madonna cover), hope that changes in the future.
Ok, I need to see Anamanaguchi live, pronto.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuIEZMFx8LA&fmt=18
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