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  • AldarezAldarez Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Happy: I got to tank in BT last night! Considering I was still in kara a month ago, I had pretty much written this content off as stuff I'd never see. God bless badge gear and attunement removals for allowing me to leapfrog content.

    On the topic of people dodging progression nights and showing up after the first kill, I don't understand this. The only thing I hate about my current guild is that, being a backup tank, I'm often coming in and doing stuff for the first time that the guild has on farm. I hate the pressure of being the only noob in the raid and trying not to screw things up on my first try. I relish the opportunities I get to come along for progression content and learn it with everyone else.

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  • EuphoriacEuphoriac Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    On the sleep thing, i consistently manage 6-7 hours, and about an hour of dozing. I feel like an old bastard compared to this 'i sleep 5 hours' thing :|

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Aldarez wrote: »
    On the topic of people dodging progression nights and showing up after the first kill, I don't understand this. The only thing I hate about my current guild is that, being a backup tank, I'm often coming in and doing stuff for the first time that the guild has on farm. I hate the pressure of being the only noob in the raid and trying not to screw things up on my first try. I relish the opportunities I get to come along for progression content and learn it with everyone else.
    I don't get it either, I guess it's the whole thing of reward driven players vs. experience driven players, which seems to be the biggest divide amongst people.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    How did Reliquary go last night mate?

    It turns out my sister's wrist wasn't broken, only a very very minor fracture which probably would have healed by itself.

    Still, better safe than sorry.

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  • AldarezAldarez Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    We had a fair bit of trouble getting through the area leading up to it, lost a few people to adds/spawns on the way. I think we need to work on clumping together better so the tank can actually pick everything up. Got a pretty good idea of how phase one works when we made it there though.

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  • EuphoriacEuphoriac Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    god i miss raiding so fucking much!

    I was one of the progression tanks, 3rd to be specific. I was part of my guilds progression raids from Vael to Twin Emperors. In fact, i moved up to joint 1st with the 2nd tank when we hit AQ40 thanks to the MT being away alot for work ('cus seriously, that place needed more than 1 'MT' for every fight). And apart from the grinding (constantly repeating MC and ZG to help gear alts and newer members REALLY got old), i loved pretty much every time i tanked a new boss, or a recently-on-farm-but-not-yet-a-smooth-kill (exhale) boss.

    But now i have a job who's hours mean i cabn't raid, and it's pissing me off! I've seen 90% of Kara and thats it. I'd like to at least see Gruul and Magtheridon, but my server doesn't do pugs for them that i can see.

    Bleh.

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  • Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Re: Progression raider vs farm raiders.

    I don't have enough time to sit there and wipe every night for a week just to get something done. I work at 5am so I typically need to be asleep by midnight, which is pushing it really. My guild is a casual raiding guild. It works to my benefit completely. We have a team that has kara on farm and when they need an extra man I can toss in any of my toons for whatever they need. I tried being in a kara progression raid back when it was hard and it drove me nuts. I can't have fun with that much pressure. And if I can't have fun in a game then I won't play even if it means pissing off 9 people. I mean, fuck, I'm not going to drive nails into my skull so those 9 people can feel good about themselves. Farm raids are more fun for me. I can come in, shoot the breeze on vent, goof off a bit (like BoP a tank during an AoE trash pull or something like that), and just have fun. I don't even really care about the loot. Raids are the rare time I can actually spend with my awesome guild mates. I want that time to be fun because we're all about fun.

    tl;dr: profression raids are stressful to me, farm raids are rockin'

    Moving onto hate/happy!

    Hate: Warlock quests. Running from the middle of nowhere in Barrens to northwestern Ashenvale is definitely FTL.

    Happy: Warlocks are fun and I can kill anything.

    Hope: That I can get into the class more. I never really liked warlocks. I never really liked pet classes to begin with. It just feels too easy. I've had this warlock for over a year and a half and its only lv21. I have had my warrior for half that time.

    Hope #2: I also hope I can find a better way to get engineering to 375 other than the repair bot method. Why is there no better way?

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hope #2: I also hope I can find a better way to get engineering to 375 other than the repair bot method. Why is there no better way?
    Hey, consider yourself lucky. Better to be making repair bots than adamantite rifles all the way up. And back when I did it they required a shitload of fucking thorium!

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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Warlock isn't a 'pet class' in the sense hunter is. It's more like a 'little utility drone' class, or something like that.

    Happy: Felmyst down!

    The number one guild on the server just fell apart/stopped raiding, which puts us in the funny position of being the #1 active alliance raid on the server. There are a couple horde guilds a boss ahead of us, though.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    815165 wrote: »
    I don't get it either, I guess it's the whole thing of reward driven players vs. experience driven players, which seems to be the biggest divide amongst people.

    Pretty much. Both play styles have their appeal, you just have to avoid mixing the two to avoid headaches. Otherwise someone always winds up disappointed.

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hate:
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    I'm at level 18 and this is my questlog, what the fuck.

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    And you've already completed Westfall? Trecked out to the Wetlands/the zone before wetlands? (Dun Morogh? Dun Baldar? Whatever the fuck it's called)

    How about journied out to one of the elven areas? Okay, those zones are shitholes, I can't actually suggest that.

    Basically, either grind out a level or two, or hit another race's areas.

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  • PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Make sure you got the lighthouse quests in Westfall. And head out to Loch Modan until you hit 20-22. Somewhere in that range.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    815165 wrote: »
    I don't get it either, I guess it's the whole thing of reward driven players vs. experience driven players, which seems to be the biggest divide amongst people.

    Pretty much. Both play styles have their appeal, you just have to avoid mixing the two to avoid headaches. Otherwise someone always winds up disappointed.

    Back when I raided, I went from a guild where guild chat was a long stream of linked items, to the top raiding guild at the time, where gear wasn't even discussed and getting bosses down was the focus. Needless to say, the latter was a much better experience.

    Anyway, Hate: Blizzard cracked down on model edits, so I have to stare at my character's fucked up face, which has not been, and likely never will be, fixed.

    Also hate; personal rating at 1604, 2v2 rating at 1598. Despite beating all the s3 drood/warrior teams we got the other day, we're still facing huge numbers of full s3 rogue/priest teams. Shit wrecks us. Once people start moving up, we should get much higher though, we're relatively outgeared.

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  • ScroffusScroffus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The thing I hate about 2v2 is that it feels a lot like luck. Not only the fact that certain class combos counter other class combos so well theres also the fact that one resisted stun/dodged attack/resisted spell can compeletly change the outcome of a match.

    Hate: Not being able to find people for a good 3v3 or 5v5. Did the cookie cutter rmp setup on my priest but never got far and decided to try again later when I could remember my vent details.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Happy: FINALLY GOT MY SCORCHLING. :D We did Kara after the real raid, and then there was very little time left before dailies would roll over when someone was like "Hey, let's do the heroic daily before they roll over!" and my boyfriend wanted to do that since he gave away all his badges for some dumb reason and is broke. So I was all emo because I didn't think we'd have time for Ahunes, but we had just enough time for them, and the pet FINALLY dropped again. And the other three people passed for me cos they don't really care about pets (different three than the ones I've been doing Ahunes with every night, which I sorta felt bad about), but hey I got my pet!

    Meh: The fact that I get so obsessive about stupid things like limited-time-only in-game pets.

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  • WavechaserWavechaser Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    wait... the pet expires?

    man what

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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    As in you can only get it while Ahune is still around...

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Mgcw wrote: »
    As in you can only get it while Ahune is still around...
    Until he comes back next year. The only truly limited to get items IMO have been scourge invasion stuff, and upcoming the ZA bear mount as soon as WOTLK comes out.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Wavechaser wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Hate: My whiny friend. Now that Blizzard has announced that Hunter pets will have talent trees in WotLK, he's on about how it's completely useless to learn new skills for the pets or level them.

    He does this every time something new is announced. If Blizzard suddenly said one year from now Feral Druids will be able to block, guarantee he would whine about how it's completely useless to play Feral anymore or get gear for them because one year from now you'd have to get new gear with block on it.

    Sometimes I just wanna slap him.

    Yeah, we had a Hunter just like that. He would always find a way to complain, even about huge buffs to the Hunter class.

    Oh right, Happy: Hit 375 engineering yesterday and made myself the epic copter of doom. God I love this thing.

    Sad: That's now the fourth epic flying skill i've bought, 20k gold gone, and I'll probably only keep playing 1 or 2 of my characters. Oh well.

    Ahaha, Aern lives on in his incompetence and bitching.


    Oh God I love the idea of pet talent trees and being able to use my SPIDER SPIDER SPIDER

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  • WavechaserWavechaser Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ahaha, Aern lives on in his incompetence and bitching.


    Oh God I love the idea of pet talent trees and being able to use my SPIDER SPIDER SPIDER

    Last night during Bot, we actually had a conversation about Robunkus.

    Your spider has reached legendary status.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Sad: I used all my bandwith and am now playing on 64 kbps. >.<

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Wavechaser wrote: »
    Ahaha, Aern lives on in his incompetence and bitching.


    Oh God I love the idea of pet talent trees and being able to use my SPIDER SPIDER SPIDER

    Last night during Bot, we actually had a conversation about Robunkus.

    Your spider has reached legendary status.

    ROBUNKUS ROBUNKUS ROBUNKUS

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  • WavechaserWavechaser Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Annoyed: I was aware in the past how annoying it must be for enchanters and not being able to enchant for their alts, but only until recently have I experienced annoying it is. I'm sitting here with all these cool enchants on one of my alts, and my Warrior is sitting here with zero enchants on his S2 gear and there isn't a thing I can do about it.

    How is it that Blizzard hasn't implimented enchanting scrolls yet? It seems like such a no-brainer.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I can see enchanting becoming far less profitable if you could just throw a scroll up on the AH--half the problem with enchants is that not every enchanter wants to sit on top of the Org bank for an hour, having to tell every other person, "no, I don't have Fiery." Not that I mind, because I hate doing that and would gladly take the gold hit in order to actually use enchanting more often.

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  • molefacemoleface Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    This was a quote from WWI talking about the Inscription profession and it mentions something about enchanting (emphasis mine)

    Major glyphs will be effective in combat - adding damage over time or stun to a physical attack, for example - while minor glyphs will give convenient or cosmetic improvements, removing the need for some spell reagents. Like jewels and enchants, they'll be useful to every player; unlike enchants, they can be sold on the auction house, and indeed plans are afoot to allow enchanters to use auctions to sell their wares as well.

    So I guess there is the potential that Enchanters will soon be able to enchant up their alts?

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    drhazard wrote: »
    I can see enchanting becoming far less profitable if you could just throw a scroll up on the AH--half the problem with enchants is that not every enchanter wants to sit on top of the Org bank for an hour, having to tell every other person, "no, I don't have Fiery." Not that I mind, because I hate doing that and would gladly take the gold hit in order to actually use enchanting more often.

    Don't forget; part of the "fucking retarded" costs involved with levelling up enchanting is that many (most?) people get tired of trying (and failing) to GIVE away enchants to people standing around, so they take thousands of gold in items, and turn them into thousands of gold in dusts, essences and shards, and then re-enchant their same pieces of gear over and over and over and over and over and over.

    If I could even sell them for 20% of their value in materials, it'd be worth it, and having them up on the AH at competitive prices means that surely a bunch would get bought up over time. Nobody wants to hunt down an enchanter for their alts, but if I saw awesome stamina enchants on the AH for a gold or two, I'd probably hook up every alt I have.

    Also, you'd be able to more easily hook up friends and your own alts, which at least puts the skilling up to use.

    It might just mean that levelling up enchanting becomes more profitable, prices stablize, and the real money remains in the hands of those lucky enough to snag the rarer/more highly sought after enchants.

    It'll also depend on the materials; something that requires a few dusts won't be a big deal, but I have doubts we'll see a flood of enchant scrolls up for things like Mongoose, that might be hundreds or even thousands of gold.

    Edit: and congrats on your pet Riz. I don't sweat them personally, but you've clearly been working on that one for a long time.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Happy: I did my first pug instance run in a long time last night. My druid has just gotten to HP (actually dinged 61 during the run) and I was able to find a Ramps group that would let me stay kitty. It was very enlightening, at the very least, but also fun. I've spent so long either soloing or playing with my two friends that I'd forgotten how unpredictable things like that could be and still be beatable.

    What especially made the night was that I couldn't just stay kitty the whole time. Our tank was, well, he wasn't bad, and he was doing an okay job with aggro (I would've preferred he had Omen, though--only me and the priest actually did). He just wasn't terribly competent. I got to play bear quite a few times just to save the priest. Additionally, I was able to support the priest pretty well with some additional healing as well as using Innervate pretty much every time it was up.

    Major sticking point was that the warrior wouldn't step out of the fire patches during the dragon-boss fight. I mean, hey. I don't do a lot of instances. And I don't necessarily believe in having an intricate strategy down before you even attempt something once--some adaptability should be expected. But when you notice you're ticking off around 600 health from standing in the bright orange patch of fire, and both your priest and your druid are saying, "DUDE MOVE," you should catch on before our third wipe and you having to leave. (Thankfully we got a pally tank to finish the run.)

    All in all, though, it was very enjoyable, and I'm glad I have a character that can contribute a lot to the group.

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  • TheEmergedTheEmerged Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    RE: Enchanting on AH. I emailed Blizzard a proposal on how they could get it to work without causing too much damage to the economy/flooding the AH, while making it cheaper to train at the same time, and using skins or herbs (whichever inscription didn't use, it wasn't known back then) to produce the items. I doubt anything will come of it, but it will be interesting to see how they address the issues.

    The strangest part of the proposal was that I don't think producing the "glyph" should require the reagents for the enchant -- I think *using* the glyph should require the reagents. This will keep the market for disenchant mats in place, perhaps even increasing it. This would at least mitigate the main argument I've seen against enchanting on the AH. If producing the glyph uses the enchanting mats, you reduce the market for disenchant mats to the enchanters themselves -- shrinking the market, and therefore the demand, and therefore the value of said mats.

    Among other things, I think they're going to have to give "glyphing" an enchant a 23 hour cooldown. I also think they'd be better off if they ditched that nonsense about "keeping the best enchants off the AH" (something Blizzard said they considered a top concern when they first announced they were thinking about it) -- unless they're going to arbitrarily declare certain enchants unglyphable, it's much harder than it looks to define "the best" because that's going to change every time an expansion comes out.

    What's more, they could keep the "personal interaction" aspect of enchanting alive (another of their stated priorities) by allowing enchanters to *transfer* enchants when someone gets a new item, IMO.

    Finally, I think producing the glyphs themselves could make for a cheaper way for enchanters to skill up than to just keep "wasting" enchants enchanting the same items over an over.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    TheEmerged wrote: »
    RE: Enchanting on AH. I emailed Blizzard a proposal on how they could get it to work without causing too much damage to the economy/flooding the AH, while making it cheaper to train at the same time, and using skins or herbs (whichever inscription didn't use) to produce the items. I doubt anything will come of it, but it will be interesting to see how they address the issues.

    The strangest part of the proposal was that I don't think producing the "glyph" should require the reagents for the enchant -- I think *using* the glyph should require the reagents. This will keep the market for disenchant mats in place, perhaps even increasing it. This would at least mitigate the main argument I've seen against enchanting on the AH.

    Among other things, I think they're going to have to give "glyphing" an enchant a 23 hour cooldown. I also think they'd be better off if they ditched that nonsense about "keeping the best enchants off the AH" (something Blizzard said they considered a top concern when they first announced they were thinking about it) -- unless they're going to arbitrarily declare certain enchant unglyphable, it's much harder than it looks to define "the best" because that's going to change every time an expansion comes out.

    What's more, they could keep the "personal interaction" aspect of enchanting alive (another of their stated priorities) by allowing enchanters to *transfer* enchants when someone gets a new item, IMO.

    You do realize that they can't use submissions like that? An IP laywer would drool over the chance to sue them.

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  • JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Happy: Got to check out the wotlk alpha a bit today. Northrend is immense, it'll probably feel smaller when you can fly but it's still pretty immense as it is. Also loregasms galore.

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  • RizziRizzi Sydney, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Junpei wrote: »
    Happy: Got to check out the wotlk alpha a bit today. Northrend is immense, it'll probably feel smaller when you can fly but it's still pretty immense as it is. Also loregasms galore.

    How? >.>

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  • TheEmergedTheEmerged Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    You do realize that they can't use submissions like that? An IP laywer would drool over the chance to sue them.

    Yeah, I even put that in the opening paragraph that I don't care about the credit -- I want it to work :) I put it in the Suggestion forum too, and it's my understanding they can use things there.

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  • JunpeiJunpei Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Rizzi wrote: »
    Junpei wrote: »
    Happy: Got to check out the wotlk alpha a bit today. Northrend is immense, it'll probably feel smaller when you can fly but it's still pretty immense as it is. Also loregasms galore.

    How? >.>

    I met Tigole in a singles bar over the weekend and one thing led to another and suddenly I'm in the F&F alpha. No, not really, however one of the guests to my wedding this weekend is in the F&F alpha and we played around a bit, there's not a whole lot there atm obviously but the scale you get just flying from one town to the next makes the place feel fairly large.

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  • EWomEWom Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    On enchanting: I have a set of leather and cloth lvl 1 store bought armour that won't bind to a character, enchanted with about 300hp, and 3 different weapons all with fiery on them, and minor speed on the boots.

    It makes low lvl characters a blasty blasty to level :) Yes it sucks having an enchanter and then going and having to pay mats + tip to some other enchanter to get 100hp on a chest piece for one of your characters or whatever :\

    Thatsa why I have my druid an enchanter on my one account, and my warlock an enchanter on my other account.

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  • SegSeg Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    TheEmerged wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    You do realize that they can't use submissions like that? An IP laywer would drool over the chance to sue them.

    Yeah, I even put that in the opening paragraph that I don't care about the credit -- I want it to work :) I put it in the Suggestion forum too, and it's my understanding they can use things there.

    "I am typing out this idea, and after I have sent it I will have forgotten it, thank you for your time and interest."

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  • ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    TheEmerged wrote: »
    Among other things, I think they're going to have to give "glyphing" an enchant a 23 hour cooldown.

    20 hours.

    Not because I agree that it'll happen, but it'd be internally consistant with what they've done with other cooldowns.

    Alternatively, they've also said they're looking at using a simpler "instance reset" style approach to crafting cooldowns (like, having them all occur at 6am (or whenever) each day/set of days, so you can use them whenever the hell you please).

    But I'm just nitpicking now, don't mind me.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Entriech wrote: »
    Mgcw wrote: »
    As in you can only get it while Ahune is still around...
    Until he comes back next year. The only truly limited to get items IMO have been scourge invasion stuff, and upcoming the ZA bear mount as soon as WOTLK comes out.

    The ZA bear mount business is pure, weapons grade bullshit. My rank 11 mount was handed out like free candy to everyone, they didn't even change the appearance.

    Also, you forgot the Scarab Lord title/mount.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I preferred my cross-faction mounts when they were Runecloth only.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    SabreMau wrote: »
    I preferred my cross-faction mounts when they were Runecloth only.

    I had to farm exalted with darnassus to ride my commander kitty. D:

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