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SATA drive, broken FDD, clean XP install: possible?

Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I've got this hard drive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822135106

this mobo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127179

I'm trying to install windows xp from the cd drive, but since it's a sata HD windows doesn't know it's there. I tried to install the SATA drivers, but apparently my FDD died. Is there a way to do a clean install without having to order another floppy drive?

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    If you have another computer available you should be able to slipstream whichever update included SATA drivers into the XP install disk.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Slipstream?

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2008
    Copy the Windows install CD to disk, slipstream new stuff (SP2, drivers etc) into the install files, burn new CD that now will have SP2 and new drivers on a fresh install.

    This article seems to cover it.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So here's a question I have related to slipstreaming. I think my mobo AND my hd came with SATA drivers for installing XP. Which one should I use? Or can I just put both sets on my new slipstreamed XP disc and windows will figure out which is the correct driver to use?

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You'll want to install the motherboard's SATA drivers.

    Also, nLite significantly eases the slipstreaming process, and can get rid of annoying "features" of XP's first boot (pop-up harassment, among others).

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Could not seem to get nLite to work.

    Another possibility: could I install XP to an IDE hard drive and then copy the contents of that drive (with appropriate software) to the SATA drive?

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Why couldn't you get nLite to work?

    I just did this exact thing myself two nights ago. Slipstreamed SATA drivers (and SP3) onto an XP install ISO using nLite so I wouldn't have to use the floppy anymore. Installed XP clean, worked like a charm.

    You could try to do a whole drive copy but my gut tells me that will not work. nLite.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm not sure why it didn't work. I d/l-ed the motherboard driver from Abit, inserted it and burned a disc. When I booted from the disc, it couldn't detect my SATA drive, in the standard manner that XP doesn't. I thought it might have been because I put the driver in as a PNP, and I think I saw a suggestion somewhere that the driver should be put in as the other option that nLite offers. When I tried to rebuild the image, the option to do the driver as a text-reading file (or whatever the term is) was gone. It would only load the driver as PNP.

    As a side issue, why is it that the XP programmers didn't provide the option to load drivers from some other location besides the A: drive? Is there some legitimate reason? Or is this just a major oversight?

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    "A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business." - Eric Hoffer, _The True Believer_
  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Because the floppy drive is a standardised device that operates essentially the same regardless of what other PC hardware you are running. You can't load it from the CD because you have to keep the install CD in. What else would you expect them to support? Remember, flash drives weren't prevalent in 2001 in the same way that SATA drives weren't.

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  • BeazleBeazle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Is your WinXP disk a SP2 one? If not make it one by the slipstreaming and forget about the SATA drivers from the motherboard company. WinXP with SP2 has drivers that will work with 99% of the onboard SATA chipsets.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    devoir wrote: »
    Because the floppy drive is a standardised device that operates essentially the same regardless of what other PC hardware you are running. You can't load it from the CD because you have to keep the install CD in.

    Is there a reason you couldn't swap out the windows disc for a driver disc at that point?
    What else would you expect them to support?

    Right now I'd kill my own mother to be able to browse XP to that second cd drive.
    Beazle wrote:
    WinXP with SP2 has drivers that will work with 99% of the onboard SATA chipsets.

    Not mine, it seems.

    I'm going to try again with nLite, see how it goes.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Peter Principle wrote: »
    Another possibility: could I install XP to an IDE hard drive and then copy the contents of that drive (with appropriate software) to the SATA drive?

    This will work, but will take years.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Peter Principle wrote:
    I'm going to try again with nLite, see how it goes.

    Did not work.

    Salvation122 wrote: »
    Peter Principle wrote: »
    Another possibility: could I install XP to an IDE hard drive and then copy the contents of that drive (with appropriate software) to the SATA drive?

    This will work, but will take years.

    What, like an hour or two? Easy enough to let it run over night, however long it takes. If I'd done it last night I'd already be finished.

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    "A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business." - Eric Hoffer, _The True Believer_
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