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Sega lost 505 million this year.

EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
Despite growing sales in its SEGA games division, parent company Sega Sammy Holdings posted huge losses.

The game publishing division suffered a net loss of $505.7 million, following last year's profit of $465 million.

The company blamed high fuel costs for discouraging Japanese citizens to drive to game facilities, the success of expensive consoles that have reduced the appetite for arcades and poor sales of Pachinko game machines.

Responding to the losses, the company will turn out the lights in 110 of its 430 arcade centers, eliminate 400 jobs and outsource more of its videogame work.

Am I the only one hoping they do really well and make Dreamcast II? Not only does their loss make it even more impossible than it already is it also destroys what is left of arcades as you can see by the 110 arcades closing down. Which is something I also miss, arcades. Sega's failure hurts everyone...

Fucking fuel..

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  • ElGamalElGamal __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Bullshit, nobody fucking drives in Japan.

    They better start putting out some good fucking games.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Was their losses only in the arcade market?

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ElGamal wrote: »
    Bullshit, nobody fucking drives in Japan.

    They better start putting out some good fucking games.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Darmak wrote: »
    ElGamal wrote: »
    Bullshit, nobody fucking drives in Japan.

    They better start putting out some good fucking games.

    Where's that damn Chaos Emerald?

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Good. SNES 4 lyfe fuckers.

    Seriously this sucks, but when was the last time Sega made anything that did really well? I guess Mario and Sonic at the Olympics was a big deal as far as sales numbers.

    I feel for the Japanese decline of arcades, because we went through that in NA years ago, and it sucks.

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Macro9 wrote: »
    Was their losses only in the arcade market?

    This is the better question. It sounds as though the answer MAY be yes, though it would be helpful if there was a division-by-division breakdown of anticipated revenues.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    To me it sounds like the main culprit for the losses was the arcade division. I mean
    The company blamed high fuel costs for discouraging Japanese citizens to drive to game facilities, the success of expensive consoles that have reduced the appetite for arcades and poor sales of Pachinko game machines.

    the company itself seems to say that since people aren't as interested in arcades and Pachinko (whassat?), that's the reason they got the losses.

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  • walerianwalerian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ElGamal wrote: »
    Bullshit, nobody fucking drives in Japan.

    They better start putting out some good fucking games.

    I liked Viking: Battle for Asgard.....

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  • Niceguyeddie616Niceguyeddie616 All you feed me is PUFFINS! I need NOURISHMENT!Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Noooooo

    This sucks so bad. :( I hope Sonic Unleashed turns out good and ends up giving them some much needed cash.
    Good. SNES 4 lyfe fuckers.

    Sega Genesis NEVAR FORGET

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah I think it was the arcade division but that also is what has kept Sega alive all of these years.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Did they secretly make Shenmue 3?

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Darnit, the console market is dying, we can't deny it any more. :(

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    Did they secretly make Shenmue 3?

    Yeah, and that is what cost them 505 million. Must be a hell of a game.

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  • HoukHouk Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Darnit, the console market is dying, we can't deny it any more. :(
    Between that and PC gaming dead/dying, it would appear the entire game industry is on its way out.

    Heads between legs, boys, kiss it goodbye!

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    PC games are not dead :-/

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Guys, guys, it's all so obvious now. It's not the shitty shit games that Sega shits out of their butt, it's the fuel costs! Mystery solved.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Guys, guys, it's all so obvious now. It's not the shitty shit games that Sega shits out of their butt, it's the fuel costs! Mystery solved.

    What shitty games?

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  • ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It always amazes me (mostly because I know zilch about companies operating in the red) how a company like sega, or even EA can lose this much money and still be, well, in business.

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  • mantidormantidor Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So this is really a problem with the arcade/pachinko market more than their games division and everyone claiming console gaming death in the thread is clueless or am I reading something wrong?

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    It always amazes me (mostly because I know zilch about companies operating in the red) how a company like sega, or even EA can lose this much money and still be, well, in business.

    Half a billion bucks does seem like it's beyond Sega's means.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Hate to nit-pick, but shouldn't this be in the video game sales thread, where the whole focus is to talk numbers? The OP should post there and we can continue the discussion proper.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    Guys, guys, it's all so obvious now. It's not the shitty shit games that Sega shits out of their butt, it's the fuel costs! Mystery solved.

    What shitty games?

    Every game made after the Dreamcast died? I could make an entire laundry list of shitty games that Sega has produced. Just a few...

    Sonic Adventure 2

    Sonic Heroes

    Sonic The Hedgehog (360/PS3)

    It's cool if you like them, but they're not going to win any awards. Unless the award is "Worst game of the year."

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    It always amazes me (mostly because I know zilch about companies operating in the red) how a company like sega, or even EA can lose this much money and still be, well, in business.

    It's not that they actually lost the money, because that implies that they had it to begin with. It's more like, there was a $505 million deficit between what they assumed they'd make, and what they actually made.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    mantidor wrote: »
    So this is really a problem with the arcade/pachinko market more than their games division and everyone claiming console gaming death in the thread is clueless or am I reading something wrong?

    I think people saying that the console games industry are joking, because any time that there is an equivalent loss made by a PC dev, there are always doomsayers saying stuff like "PC gaming is dead"

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    I thought pachinko was what kept sega afloat

    it makes so much sense

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Hate to nit-pick, but shouldn't this be in the video game sales thread, where the whole focus is to talk numbers? The OP should post there and we can continue the discussion proper.

    lulz megathred



    The problem here wasn't that Sega didn't make any great games this year. The problem is that Sammy spent lots of money on Pachinko and Arcade, and who gives a toss about them these days?

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    I care about sega..

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I cared about Sega. I love my Genesis. I love almost all of the games I own for it. I love my Saturn and my Dreamcast, too. But the old Sega and the new Sega are totally different. I want to take the physical incarnation of the Sega corporation and throw it in a lake of fire.

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  • ElGamalElGamal __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    I used to give a shit about Sega. Now I don't give a shit about Sega.

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  • PeenPeen Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Darnit, the console market is dying, we can't deny it any more. :(

    So the fact that game sales have set a new record every year for three consecutive years must just be deceptive somehow, yeah?

    http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_080131b.html

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    subedii wrote: »
    Darnit, the console market is dying, we can't deny it any more. :(

    So the fact that game sales have set a new record every year for three consecutive years must just be deceptive somehow, yeah?

    http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_080131b.html

    Yes. It's all doomed. Abandon hope.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    So they just lost it? Could it be out there? Could I find it and become rich?

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  • n00bishn00bish Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Just last week I bailed out of the absolute shithole that is Gameworks, which is part of the SEGA Sammy Holdings family. It's been in a good tailspin all by it self this past year, I'd love to see what affect this news will have on the store. That and a brand new, massive Legoland is opening up right next door, poised to scoop up at least 10-20% of Gameworks' event business, if not more. I'm going to have to keep in touch with some of the Gameworks people and see what happens in the next months.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    Bloods End wrote: »
    So they just lost it? Could it be out there? Could I find it and become rich?

    It could happen.

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  • KetherialKetherial Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ElGamal wrote: »
    Bullshit, nobody fucking drives in Japan.

    They better start putting out some good fucking games.

    actually, once you leave the huge metropolitan areas, the only way to get to those massive arcades and pachinko halls they have in the surburbs and countryside is drive.

    i can easily see how high fuel costs act as a disincentive. remember, gas costs about 2-3 times as much in japan as in the u.s. (right now, i think it's about $1.50 - $2 per liter), which means about $8 per gallon.

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  • JastJast Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    LewieP wrote: »
    Did they secretly make Shenmue 3?

    Yeah, and that is what cost them 505 million. Must be a hell of a game.

    Hmm let's see, if every character had a unique voice, if you could enter every building, a good physics system, all of Hong Kong mapped, cameo voice appearences by major Hong Kong stars....one can dream right?

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  • SaddlerSaddler Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    n00bish wrote: »
    Just last week I bailed out of the absolute shithole that is Gameworks, which is part of the SEGA Sammy Holdings family. It's been in a good tailspin all by it self this past year, I'd love to see what affect this news will have on the store. That and a brand new, massive Legoland is opening up right next door, poised to scoop up at least 10-20% of Gameworks' event business, if not more. I'm going to have to keep in touch with some of the Gameworks people and see what happens in the next months.

    Gameworks WOULD be good if they didn't have the sound off on all the good games. WTF.

    Sounds like your Gameworks might benefit from Legoland runoff though, if anything.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Bloods End wrote: »
    So they just lost it? Could it be out there? Could I find it and become rich?

    It's net profit. They fell short by $505,000,000 dollars that they expected to make.

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