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Unexplained Vomiting

korrianderkorriander Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Eight hours of uncontrollable vomiting is not so fun.

The last couple days I have had almost no appetite, but otherwise felt fine. Yesterday, I went to work super early, and a friend was nice enough to buy me a bagel and chai latte (my favorite combo). I had a plum and a small bag of broccoli with ranch for lunch, almost nothing, around 2 pm. I went home at around 8:30 pm, still feeling fine, and about fifteen minutes later the nausea hit. It took maybe two minutes to start throwing up, and that continued until somewhere between 3 am and 4 am. Here I am at home at the same time as yesterday, still very nauseous, but I haven't hurled since early this morning.

The weird thing is, I have no other symptoms of anything. No fever, no achy muscles or joints, no sore throat, no coughing, nothing. I have a slight headache today, but I pin that on only being able to keep down a single glass of water, and no food since yesterday. I can't afford a doctors visit right now, but I don't want to, you know, fall over and die of something either. Any ideas what's causing all this?

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    That's classic classic food poisoning. Always see a doctor, since we aren't doctors. But that reeks of classic food poisoning.

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  • DeadfallDeadfall I don't think you realize just how rich he is. In fact, I should put on a monocle.Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Agreed on the food poisoning.

    Usually, not always but usually, it will start coming out the other end soon.

    I got it twice recently, once in March and once last October. Took me a solid four or five days to get over it, and then the rest of the week to fully recover.

    While recovering, Gatorade is your friend (it was for me, anyway).

    Godspeed.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Food poisoning. See doctor. Most likely he'll give you basic antibiotics. You'll want those and you'll also want to get liquids you can keep down (as mentioned before, Gatorade or room temp clear soda).

    Most importantly, find out what gave you food poisoning. If it was anything you had at home, make sure you get rid of it.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The above information is pretty correct. Just one more thing, don't drink Red Gatorade. An important thing to keep track of is whether or not your vomit is tinged with anything remotely red (bright red could indicate a higher GI bleed and darker red / brown / black suggests a lower GI bleed). You don't want to drink anything that could potentially mask a bleed.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yah that's food poisoning. Did you have sour cream on the bagel? I know people who won't eat sour cream from restaurants because if it's allowed to go bad it will kick your ass. But the bagel itself could've done it too, you never know

    If the vomiting is excessive(to the point where you know you're not consuming adequate liquid to keep yourself hydrated) it's a perfectly legitimate reason to go to the emergency room so they can hook you up to an IV. (but by excessive, I mean you couldn't be sitting here typing right now)

    I'VE never gone to the doctor for food poisoning, and I've had it about as bad as you (vomit, feel better for half an hour, vomit, repeat for 6-8 hours)but I was living with my parents and sister still so I had 24 hour coddling ^_^

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  • korrianderkorriander Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I have no coddling, and a full time job. I am skipping work tomorrow, but I didn't think it was food poisoning really, because it's just vomiting, nothing else coming out. Then again, I haven't eaten in a lot time now, so there's nothing left to come out.

    For the record, everything I threw up after the first hour was bright yellow. I've heard that happens when you have not even stomach acid left to come up.

    I tried to drink a little milk, and made it a couple sips before my stomach warned me to stop or else. I strongly dislike sports drinks, but I'll pick some up tomorrow. I'm going to be out in the sun all day at a car show, and far from home, so hopefully I won't majorly dehydrate or continue the vomit-breath-vomit-breath cycle.

    BlochWave: No, no sour cream on my bagel, but I did have cream cheese, which I kept in the mini fridge at work, which has communal access and likely has had more people getting into it than just me. Also went to eat at Mustard Seed and had a lot of mushrooms and veggies in my dish. Mushrooms grown in fecal matter. Fecal matter means food poisoning, right?

    It could also have been the extremely early season strawberries I've been chowing down on. They show up with mold today and I did toss them.

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Any bean sprouts? Those are pretty well known for being laden with e-coli.
    Mushrooms are grown in manure so that could be another cause.

    Try drinking Pedialyte or at least water with some sugar and salt in it.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, food poisoning usually consists of barfing till you throw up bile, then the dry heaving sets in. Do not go get antibiotics. No doctor should be giving you antibiotics for an enteric pathogen:
    1. It makes you a carrier in some cases.
    2. Antibiotics give you more diarrhea.
    3. Enterics go away on their own, so antibiotics don't help (they take 10 days to fully work).
    4. Antibiotics are useless in this case and only perpetuate the super-bacteria problem.

    Wait it out, stay hydrated, drink electrolyte thingies. If it lasts more than three days, go to the doctor.

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  • DekuStickDekuStick Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Avoid dairy like the fucking plague. That shit will stir in your already upset stomach very uncomfortably.

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  • BlochWaveBlochWave Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well I don't really associate food poisoning with pooing, of the few times I've had it only once was it coupled with full double barreled hilarity

    Let's go through this since you seem overly concerned
    For the record, everything I threw up after the first hour was bright yellow. I've heard that happens when you have not even stomach acid left to come up.

    Mmm, yah, you're purging your stomach, you're gonna vomit til there's nothing bad, then a few more times for good measure, the human body is thorough like that. Who told you that anyways? The yellow stuff IS stomach acid, you're seeing that because you didn't have anything else to vomit
    I tried to drink a little milk, and made it a couple sips before my stomach warned me to stop or else. I strongly dislike sports drinks, but I'll pick some up tomorrow. I'm going to be out in the sun all day at a car show, and far from home, so hopefully I won't majorly dehydrate or continue the vomit-breath-vomit-breath cycle.

    You..you drank milk while sickly and vomiting? I'm not being a prick when I ask this: Have you ever been vomiting sick before, or at least within memory? I've personally never downed a fresh glass of milk after a stint over the toilet, but my stomach is literally churning in agony at imagining it. If you wanna help settle the stomach, carbonation can help; a little sprite might help, or carbonated water. You need to drink fluids of course, but your stomach is like "oh goddammit I hate you" when you do, carbonated liquid for whatever reason doesn't piss it off as much. Gatorade and the like is good because of the electrolytes(if you went to the ER they would basically hook you up to an IV of fluids and electrolytes, which is basically unflavored unsweetened gatorade)
    BlochWave: No, no sour cream on my bagel, but I did have cream cheese, which I kept in the mini fridge at work, which has communal access and likely has had more people getting into it than just me. Also went to eat at Mustard Seed and had a lot of mushrooms and veggies in my dish. Mushrooms grown in fecal matter. Fecal matter means food poisoning, right?

    I meant cream cheese, sour cream on a bagel would be all wtfish. Meat's pretty simple, you can drop it on the floor, stick it down your pants, whatever, just cook it enough and it's all good. Dairy products, things like cheese, which are all, and let's be fair here, things allowed to carefully spoil, can be trickier. But it's not worth trying to figure out, no one can diagnose what caused it without careful analysis of what you ate, which became difficult as soon as you chucked it up

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I got through a great time with Norwalk virus on 7up and white rice. It was pretty much the worst day of my life, and I still to this day get heartburn from breaking my esophagus then. No joke!

    The way to get better from this sort of illness is to eat small amounts of carbohydrate rich, easily digestible foods and drink small amounts of salty sweet drinks frequently. Bananas, peeled apples, rice and white toast are all good options. Avoid anything fatty or now as well.

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Saltines, 7up, and lotsa water.

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  • SpeakeasySpeakeasy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I had food poisoning once, to the point where I couldn't control myself anymore, and was just expelling waste from both ends over and over. The main thing to do is keep yourself hydrated. I went with nothing but water for 5 days, and was cleaned out by day 2.

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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sounds like food poisoning to me too.

    Dry toast, crackers, maybe some fruit. That's the kind of thing you might be able to keep down.

    Where I live we eat rice porridge when we're sick, but since you sound American I'm not sure what else you might do. Definitely no dairy.

    It's hard to know what caused it - could have been the plum if it was dirty/contaminated enough. Hard to really know.

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Jell-O can help, too- it's just water, protein, and flavoring.

    The main thing is to keep hydrated and to avoid pissing off your stomach to the point it triggers another lunch launching. Gatorade, Powerade, and the like are good, but nothing beats Pedialyte in this case- it was designed for this sort of thing.

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  • DeathwingDeathwing Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yep, as everyone else has said, definately sounds like food poisoning - had it myself back in high school. Ate dinner at a Red Lobster one weekend, starting feeling a little crampy afterwards. Woke up later in the middle of the night, crampy feelings x10....My sleep-addled brain thought "Hey, I must just be really hungry", so I ate a whole bowl of cereal and milk that promptly came back up about a half hour later, and it pretty much went downhill from there. Took about a week to get better.

    Avoid dairy, avoid tomato products for a while (even if you think you're feeling better) unless you want to feel like you drank battery acid, stick to very bland stuff like crackers and toast. Suck down the pedialyte as much as you can, especially if you're still vomiting.

    If you can't take the taste of it straight up, mix it with some sugar-free Koolaid or Crystal Light or whatnot - made a huge difference for me, I was getting dehydrated to the point where I was having dreams about being lost in the desert, and it's almost scary how much better I felt after getting hydrated again.

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  • Mom2KatMom2Kat Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Or since he had a problem with sipping milk, It could be a lactose allergy.

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Mom2Kat wrote: »
    Or since he had a problem with sipping milk, It could be a lactose allergy.
    I think he would know by now if he had a lactose allergy. It wouldn't cause this much damage normally, anyways.

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  • ShadeShade Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DekuStick wrote: »
    Avoid dairy like the fucking plague. That shit will stir in your already upset stomach very uncomfortably.

    That would have been useful last night, before she sat down to have a glass of milk and started the vomit, bile, dry heave process all over again...

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    i would cut the gatorade with water, straight is way too much sugar. i personally like ginger ale and crackers, you can attempt yogurt which will help get your good bacteria up but i would not try it until youhave a more stable environment

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Shade wrote: »
    DekuStick wrote: »
    Avoid dairy like the fucking plague. That shit will stir in your already upset stomach very uncomfortably.

    That would have been useful last night, before she sat down to have a glass of milk and started the vomit, bile, dry heave process all over again...

    Live and learn.

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  • korrianderkorriander Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Still slightly sick, but the vomiting has stopped. I had lunch today, and while my stomach protested vehemently, I did keep it all down.

    For the record, I haven't throw up due to illness in about... twenty years. Meaning, since I was two. I'm hoping for another twenty years of stomach acid free life after this, minimum.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Trillian wrote: »
    I got through a great time with Norwalk virus on 7up and white rice. It was pretty much the worst day of my life, and I still to this day get heartburn from breaking my esophagus then. No joke!

    The way to get better from this sort of illness is to eat small amounts of carbohydrate rich, easily digestible foods and drink small amounts of salty sweet drinks frequently. Bananas, peeled apples, rice and white toast are all good options. Avoid anything fatty or now as well.


    Norwalk fucking wrecked my shit about six years ago. We had it go through a resort I was working at. I was one of the last to get it but since I'm immunosuppressed (kidney transplant) I had it for three days rather than the requisite 24 hours and was weak for three weeks.

    That was a lot of fun, I tell you what.

    Glad to hear you're feeling better, Korriander. There's little worse in life than food poisoning.

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  • TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Trillian wrote: »
    I got through a great time with Norwalk virus on 7up and white rice. It was pretty much the worst day of my life, and I still to this day get heartburn from breaking my esophagus then. No joke!

    The way to get better from this sort of illness is to eat small amounts of carbohydrate rich, easily digestible foods and drink small amounts of salty sweet drinks frequently. Bananas, peeled apples, rice and white toast are all good options. Avoid anything fatty or now as well.


    Norwalk fucking wrecked my shit about six years ago. We had it go through a resort I was working at. I was one of the last to get it but since I'm immunosuppressed (kidney transplant) I had it for three days rather than the requisite 24 hours and was weak for three weeks.

    That was a lot of fun, I tell you what.

    Glad to hear you're feeling better, Korriander. There's little worse in life than food poisoning.

    I got it by walking through a flooded bathroom at a resort.
    Little did I know Norwalk could be transmitted by aerosol droplets, but holy...well...shit.
    It was the one day of my life where I actually wanted to die.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    korriander wrote: »
    I have no coddling, and a full time job. I am skipping work tomorrow, but I didn't think it was food poisoning really, because it's just vomiting, nothing else coming out. Then again, I haven't eaten in a lot time now, so there's nothing left to come out.

    For the record, everything I threw up after the first hour was bright yellow. I've heard that happens when you have not even stomach acid left to come up.

    I tried to drink a little milk, and made it a couple sips before my stomach warned me to stop or else. I strongly dislike sports drinks, but I'll pick some up tomorrow. I'm going to be out in the sun all day at a car show, and far from home, so hopefully I won't majorly dehydrate or continue the vomit-breath-vomit-breath cycle.

    BlochWave: No, no sour cream on my bagel, but I did have cream cheese, which I kept in the mini fridge at work, which has communal access and likely has had more people getting into it than just me. Also went to eat at Mustard Seed and had a lot of mushrooms and veggies in my dish. Mushrooms grown in fecal matter. Fecal matter means food poisoning, right?

    It could also have been the extremely early season strawberries I've been chowing down on. They show up with mold today and I did toss them.

    I'm a little late, but hey, whatever.

    You have food poisoning like everyone said. I suffered from this about half a year ago. Really, really bad vomiting until you start dry heaving, this is not the bad part. The bard part begins when your body starts throwing up bile. This is mostly that yellow stuff you're seeing, the acid would've been purged before you started dry heaving. When bile hits water, it just sort of sinks in a clump, so you'll know when it's coming.

    I had no "sickness" associated with my food poisoning other than the throwing up. No chills, no fever, but I was fucking exhausted and had the worst headache I've had in a long time.

    As everyone said, don't take dairy. Relax, wait for yourself to stop throwing up, don't try and eat much until then, eat a few saltines to get rid of the particularly bitter aftertaste of the bile, though, if your body got that far. Once you stop throwing up, start recouping your fluids and eating some saltines to help your electrolytes (you'll feel shit-tons better, blue Gatorade is the best for this situation to help with the electrolytes because you don't want the yellow or red while you're having stomach issues to help you look for possible further issues).

    The mushrooms may have been the cause, however, I suspect it was the broccoli. Broccoli has had a notoriously bad track record for food poisoning -- especially in sprouts which a lot of places are now using. Mushrooms not so much because they know it grows in those conditions and treat it in such a way that it shouldn't be a problem.

    tl;dr, Sounds like you have a common E. Coli poisoning; keep your fluids/electrolytes up as best you can, if you can't or are still having trouble seek medical assistance immediately. Antibiotics will only make it worse, your body will get rid of it within 24-72 hours -- but may need help if you are having a hard time purging and replacing fluids.

    EDIT:

    You may also have a Norovirus (stomach flu).

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  • korrianderkorriander Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    No more vomiting, but I still feel just a tinge of nausea. My appetite has absolutely disappeared since this whole thing started. There is no change of it being morning sickness; I already checked for that. So long as the slightly sick feeling in my stomach goes away eventually, I don't mind it. The loss of appetite (today I had a glass of juice and a small rice cake) is doing positive things to my waistline. I guess it's all for the good.

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    ...you're still nauseated? Its been ten days. If you haven't already, I'd see a doctor soon. Shit can get septic eventually and that's not fun.

    EDIT: but yeah, mostly likely NOT food poisoning then. That tends to be "barf barf shit shit, done". Once you get stuff purged, you get better fairly quickly.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I got the same thing from a chai latte (starbucks, of course) new years 2007.

    I spent the next three days either vomiting or with HORRIBLE diarrhea. Made me lactose intolerant for like three months too. (that might have been mental)

    Fucking Starbucks.

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Doctor, now. 10 days is too long for it to be minor food poisoning, and you really don't want to mess with this.

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