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Video card installation (Update: Is this card fried?)

WalterWalter Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I recently had to move to a new computer because my old one exploded (see http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=56740). I've got all the bugs worked out from the switch except I can't seem to get my computer to recognize my video card. Here's what I've got:

Video card: GeForce 7600GT
Computer: Gateway GT5674
Motherboard: 4006203R - ECS MCP61P - AM Motherboard

I've installed the 32-bit vista drivers for the card (although Vista says the installation may have been unsuccessful...seemed fine to me) but only my on-board video appears in device manager. I'm thinking I might have to disable the on-board video but I'm hesitant to do this for two reasons. 1) If I disable it and my video card doesn't start working am I stuck with a motherboard that won't output any video signal? and 2) I can't figure out how to disable the on-board video. I've played around in the BIOS but don't see anything and I can't seem to find a manual for my motherboard online.

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  • Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2008
    I am not sure how to turn it off, but you can always pull the battery out of your motherboard to return it to default settings.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I don't think default settings is what I need. I'm looking for a way to disable the onboard video.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Walter wrote: »
    1) If I disable it and my video card doesn't start working am I stuck with a motherboard that won't output any video signal? and 2) I can't figure out how to disable the on-board video. I've played around in the BIOS but don't see anything and I can't seem to find a manual for my motherboard online.

    No, you will be fine disabling it. If nothing is in a PCI/AGP/PCI-E slot, it will revert to onboard.

    Look for something like "initial display" to have it use your newly inserted card.

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Most likely what is causing the conflict ( and your new card not working) is the old card. Also, I would put off installing drivers for the new card before you put it in, as now-a-days card drivers seem be be designed to check for the card that they are supposed to be driving when they install, and should it not be present, it could lead to them not installing properly.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wulf wrote: »
    Most likely what is causing the conflict ( and your new card not working) is the old card. Also, I would put off installing drivers for the new card before you put it in, as now-a-days card drivers seem be be designed to check for the card that they are supposed to be driving when they install, and should it not be present, it could lead to them not installing properly.

    Definitely, if you have another card in there, remove it. (Remove it from device manager from windows too)

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wulf wrote: »
    Most likely what is causing the conflict ( and your new card not working) is the old card. Also, I would put off installing drivers for the new card before you put it in, as now-a-days card drivers seem be be designed to check for the card that they are supposed to be driving when they install, and should it not be present, it could lead to them not installing properly.

    This. Also, you'll probably want to uninstall the old video card drivers before you install a new card. Will cut down on any further problems. Might even take care of your current problem.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    There isn't an old card in there. I have a new computer with onboard video and a graphics card from my old computer. I want to put the graphics card from the old computer in the new computer. I should have been more clear. I will try removing the onboard video from device manager and uninstalling the drivers.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    Yes, and some systems won't output video until you explicitly go into BIOS and switch the Initial Display to PCI-E/AGP/PCI or disable onboard video.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    No, it does not detect the card.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Walter wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    No, it does not detect the card.

    Video output has to be disabled/switched from onboard first before it'll be possible. In my experience anyways. Not sure if windows will pick up a video card until this has happened.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    bowen wrote: »
    Walter wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    No, it does not detect the card.

    Video output has to be disabled/switched from onboard first before it'll be possible. In my experience anyways. Not sure if windows will pick up a video card until this has happened.

    That seems odd. I JUST re-built my computer with a new mobo, video card, etc and the mobo automatically detected the new vid card just fine.

    Crashtard on
    Robert Khoo wrote: »
    I pinky swear that we will not screw you.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah I've never seen a MOBO that required onboard support disabled for agp/pci-e to work, and I've been doing tech support for a living for quite a number of years. That said some BIOS systems have a pci-e or agp speed settings that would have to be on the proper option, but even those are few and far between.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Crashtard wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Walter wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    No, it does not detect the card.

    Video output has to be disabled/switched from onboard first before it'll be possible. In my experience anyways. Not sure if windows will pick up a video card until this has happened.

    That seems odd. I JUST re-built my computer with a new mobo, video card, etc and the mobo automatically detected the new vid card just fine.

    It's all really dependent on the motherboard, some are REALLY picky about that shit. Did your motherboard have onboard video? If not, that's why it worked right away.

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I just opened the case up to try re-seating the card and found this on the graphics card:
    p1010045ct3.jpg
    p1010045ct3.796d050850.jpg

    Its hard to see, but the blue/silver cylinders (they look like capacitors to me) on the right have open "tops" with some orange stuff coming out of them. All the cylinders on the left side look normal. This is not normal, right? What the heck happened?

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Hard to tell from the pic but it looks like blown capacitors. You're going to have to RMA that card.

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    ...looks like blown capacitors...


    You're gonna need to take a better picture for us to be sure, but yeah.

    If you have a warranty on the card, start an RMA asap. If not, start shopping for a new card.
    This is not normal, right? What the heck happened?

    Wiki sez:
    An incorrect electrolyte formula within a faulty capacitor causes the production of hydrogen gas, leading to bulging or deformation of the capacitor's case, and eventual venting of the electrolyte.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    bowen wrote: »
    Crashtard wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Walter wrote: »
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Forget installing or uninstalling drivers for a moment. When you plug the video card into the computer does it detect the card at all, because if not your issue isn't a driver conflict.

    No, it does not detect the card.

    Video output has to be disabled/switched from onboard first before it'll be possible. In my experience anyways. Not sure if windows will pick up a video card until this has happened.

    That seems odd. I JUST re-built my computer with a new mobo, video card, etc and the mobo automatically detected the new vid card just fine.

    It's all really dependent on the motherboard, some are REALLY picky about that shit. Did your motherboard have onboard video? If not, that's why it worked right away.

    Yeah, it has onboard video. It's just super shitty.

    Crashtard on
    Robert Khoo wrote: »
    I pinky swear that we will not screw you.

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  • WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yep, you got some serious Popcorn there. RMA time!

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