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Plasma money recovery

SakebombSakebomb Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Im considering donating plasma to cover the rising cost of gas and such.
My ideal plan will have me donating every Monday and Saturday.

My biggest concern is how this going to affect my workout schedule. I imagine hitting the gym the day after a donation will probably fuck me up one way or another.

Anyone have any experience with this?

Im also gonna go back to drinking copious amounts of water, and limiting myself to one carbonated beverage a day.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Donating blood twice a week? This is a terrible idea. Once a month, at absolute most.

    Your overall plasma returns to normal after 24-36 hours for a healthy individual. But your red blood cell count? That shit takes weeks. Not to mention your drastically decreased levels of iron.

    Couldn't be more against this idea.

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Daemonion wrote: »
    Donating blood twice a week? This is a terrible idea. Once a month, at absolute most.

    Your overall plasma returns to normal after 24-36 hours for a healthy individual. But your red blood cell count? That shit takes weeks. Not to mention your drastically decreased levels of iron.

    Couldn't be more against this idea.

    He said donating plasma, not blood.

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  • SakebombSakebomb Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Daemonion wrote: »
    Donating blood twice a week? This is a terrible idea. Once a month, at absolute most.

    Your overall plasma returns to normal after 24-36 hours for a healthy individual. But your red blood cell count? That shit takes weeks. Not to mention your drastically decreased levels of iron.

    Couldn't be more against this idea.

    Well, I'm going to be donating plasma, (it pays more) and from what I understand, they pump the blood out, separate the plasma, and then pump the blood back into you.

    Does that make a difference with the red blood cell count and iron levels still?

    Daemonion wrote: View Post
    Donating blood twice a week? This is a terrible idea. Once a month, at absolute most.

    Your overall plasma returns to normal after 24-36 hours for a healthy individual. But your red blood cell count? That shit takes weeks. Not to mention your drastically decreased levels of iron.

    Couldn't be more against this idea.
    He said donating plasma, not blood.


    EDIT: Ill change the thread title, its misleading

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I didn't even know there was a difference =/

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  • SakebombSakebomb Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I didn't even know there was a difference =/

    The place I want to go to pays $20 for your first donation, then another $30 if you come back within 7 days.

    Comes out to an extra $200 a month, which is almost what I spend on gas

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  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Donating plasma can generally be safely done twice a week. They do pump the blood out, take what they need, then shoot what they aren't taking right back into you. I'd do it myself if there were places around here that paid for it. I can't really comment on the experience, having not done it, but reading up on it makes it sound fairly safe.

    I imagine as long as you aren't killing yourself working out the day after, you should be alright.

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  • DeathwingDeathwing Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Does that make a difference with the red blood cell count and iron levels still?

    Donating plasma won't affect your red blood cells, as far as I know - the plasma is separated out, and the red blood cells are returned to your body.

    I can't say I really agree with your primary motivation for donating being gas money, but it's your body, and you'll still be helping people regardless of your motives.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The OP is talking about selling plasma, not donating whole blood. The blood is withdrawn, it's put through a machine that filters out the plasma fluid, then the red blood cells are pumped back into the body. Here in Canada, whole blood donations are restricted to once every 56 days, but plasma donations can be done twice a week.

    To the OP: honestly, you'd probably be better off getting a part-time job, unless the going rate for plasma in your part of the world is ridiculously high. It takes an hour or two per procedure, plus transportation time to and from the clinic. Plus gas money, if it's far enough away that you need to drive. Your workout routine will suffer, you'll have to make a conscious effort to keep yourself properly hydrated, and I don't think a single day between donations is enough time to recover.

    If you're looking at making $50 in a week for two donations, at a cost of four or five hours... man, just get a job at a convenience store or something for one or two shifts per week. It'll be more money, fewer needles jabbed into your arm, and less inconvenience.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sakebomb wrote: »
    Well, I'm going to be donating plasma, (it pays more) and from what I understand, they pump the blood out, separate the plasma, and then pump the blood back into you.

    Does that make a difference with the red blood cell count and iron levels still?

    My bad.

    Well, with plasma donations you do get your RBCs back, but I couldn't imagine getting back into heavy lifting until 48+ hours after having such a large gauge needle in you.

    I also have no idea how your body will react (constant soreness, bruising, etc.) to having large needles poked in the same area so frequently.

    Honestly, you will probably be sore, and lifting heavy raises blood pressure quite a bit during movement - may not be the best thing.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The OP is talking about selling plasma, not donating whole blood. The blood is withdrawn, it's put through a machine that filters out the plasma fluid, then the red blood cells are pumped back into the body. Here in Canada, whole blood donations are restricted to once every 56 days, but plasma donations can be done twice a week.

    To the OP: honestly, you'd probably be better off getting a part-time job, unless the going rate for plasma in your part of the world is ridiculously high. It takes an hour or two per procedure, plus transportation time to and from the clinic. Plus gas money, if it's far enough away that you need to drive. Your workout routine will suffer, you'll have to make a conscious effort to keep yourself properly hydrated, and I don't think a single day between donations is enough time to recover.

    If you're looking at making $50 in a week for two donations, at a cost of four or five hours... man, just get a job at a convenience store or something for one or two shifts per week. It'll be more money, fewer needles jabbed into your arm, and less inconvenience.

    The procedure itself is closer to 45 minutes. Transportation of course will vary a lot, depending on where he lives.

    You need at least 2 full days between donations though, and I don't know how it would affect exercising. I did it for about a month or two. The only conscious change I had to make on my diet, was getting enough protein. Water, everything else was fine. I personally had n problems with bruising etc, but for a longer period of time, I don't know how well the veins would react.

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  • CoJoeTheLawyerCoJoeTheLawyer Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Back when I was a poor starving college student looking for money to get drunk on, I donated plasma for part of a semester. It wasn't so bad, as long as you avoided the Bum's Rush (ie. when all the homeless people showed up at the same time and you had to wait forever to donate). I think I got $25 for the first donation in a 7-day period, and $35 for the second. I think I also made an extra $25 for every first time donor I brought with me.

    While it's safe, I noticed a definite drop in my overall energy level for about 12 - 24 hours after donating, and in the long term that lasted longer. It wasn't to the point I would pass out, but at the end of a busy day after donating, all I had the energy to do was crawl into bed and die. You might be ok in the short term, but if you are looking to do this for a extended period of time, you will either have to cut back on the workouts, or find a different way to make a quick buck.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Well, I don't know about long-term effects, but short-term, when I donate whole blood, they tell me not to do any exercising that day. I'm fine the next day, and I have to assume, given that you can only do it once every 56 days, they're taking way more out of you with whole blood than plasma.

    As long as you don't workout after donating on the same day, I don't see why it would get in the way of you exercising, over the short-term, at least. I don't know about the long-term.

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  • the wookthe wook Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    it depends on how big you are physically. if you're the type of person who gets lightheaded after donating a pint of whole blood, you'll probably want to wait 24 hours before you go to the gym. but as someone who has regularly donated plasma twice weekly and gone to the gym that night, i've not noticed any negative effects. but i'm 6'1 240. your results may vary.

    if you're just starting to get into it and you don't want to drop your lifting schedule, i would recommend going in and lifting light to assess any effects. if you don't notice any, lift a little heavier the next time. do as such until you notice effects or you reach your desired level.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    As a funny aside, my teammate in high school would go to two different plasma clinics so he could donate twice as often in high school. He thought he was so smart until he collapsed and was too weak to pick himself up off the ground. A couple other teammates donated (normally) and just said they were a little tired on donation days.

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  • SakebombSakebomb Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Walter wrote: »
    As a funny aside, my teammate in high school would go to two different plasma clinics so he could donate twice as often in high school. He thought he was so smart until he collapsed and was too weak to pick himself up off the ground. A couple other teammates donated (normally) and just said they were a little tired on donation days.

    Were you on the chess team or the power lifting team?

    Facts I need to know here!! :lol:

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  • tech_huntertech_hunter More SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I donated plasma for an entire year and a half and other than a little scar at my elbow joint I suffered no ill effects. The first few times you do it you may feel a little woozy after a few minutes drink some water and eat a little something and you will be fine. If you already exercise regularly and are fairly healthy you should be able to start your routine an hour or so after your donation. Donating plasma is a lot different than donating Whole blood you get most of it back so your body doesnt take too big a hit, but they are still removing about a pint or more of fluid. I cant remember exactly how big the containers are might be a bit more. Other than taking it easy an hour or so after and eating something you will be fine. Also I wouldn't recommend donating at more than one place. Here they mark a finger with an ultraviolet dye it wears off in about 3 days so you cant just go to another place and donate again if you do it and get caught you can get banned since I beleive this is federally regulated and they have health guidelines to follow.

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  • WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sakebomb wrote: »
    Were you on the chess team or the power lifting team?

    Facts I need to know here!! :lol:
    It was actually the speech and debate team. Right in the middle of an oration.
    The lacrosse team. Lots of running and physical exertion.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You don't want to give plasma. they pump you full of blood thinners and you lose a lot of clotting factors that you can easily bleed out should anything happen, my mother in law was giving plasma and went to the dentist a decent amount of time after and it was bad, nothing bad happened but it could have been worse

    i would stick to semen or blood

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    mts wrote: »
    You don't want to give plasma. they pump you full of blood thinners and you lose a lot of clotting factors that you can easily bleed out should anything happen, my mother in law was giving plasma and went to the dentist a decent amount of time after and it was bad, nothing bad happened but it could have been worse

    i would stick to semen or blood
    How long was that? You say a decent amount of time, but does that mean a few hours? Days? Weeks?

    And really, if you're having any medical procedure done after donating you should make the proffesional aware that you've just donated blood/plasma.

    As for sticking to blood rather then plasma, don't they use thinners for that too?

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  • the wookthe wook Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    when you donate plasma the thinners get pumped back into you along with the RBCs. when you donate whole blood they tend to stay in the pouch with the blood.

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  • HalberdBlueHalberdBlue Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    mts wrote: »
    You don't want to give plasma. they pump you full of blood thinners and you lose a lot of clotting factors that you can easily bleed out should anything happen, my mother in law was giving plasma and went to the dentist a decent amount of time after and it was bad, nothing bad happened but it could have been worse

    i would stick to semen or blood

    You can't 'donate' blood for money (in the US at least), and the semen donor process is incredibly selective.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The word nearly everyone in this thread is looking for is "sell".

    You don't donate for money. That's called selling.


    I would also say it's a bad idea, your vascular system is pretty robust, but fuck if you're not going to look like a heroin addict after a month or three.


    I guess you could always go do it and if you feel like shit after a week, stop. It's not some long term commitment anyway like selling eggs.


    (selling eggs is an awful idea)

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    see317 wrote: »
    mts wrote: »
    You don't want to give plasma. they pump you full of blood thinners and you lose a lot of clotting factors that you can easily bleed out should anything happen, my mother in law was giving plasma and went to the dentist a decent amount of time after and it was bad, nothing bad happened but it could have been worse

    i would stick to semen or blood
    How long was that? You say a decent amount of time, but does that mean a few hours? Days? Weeks?

    And really, if you're having any medical procedure done after donating you should make the proffesional aware that you've just donated blood/plasma.

    As for sticking to blood rather then plasma, don't they use thinners for that too?

    talking weeks.
    the people who were taking the plasma did not tell her to avoid things like that , my MIL is quite an active donor so she jumped on the chance to be able t give more. She was told nothing abou the risk of bleeding out due to the process of plasma donation.

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