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Execution: a gameplay experiment

ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
This game is unlikely to last more than 10 seconds. The title is completely self-explanatory: your task is to execute a man. Will you do it?

http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=375097

Don't scroll down on that page at all, the first post will spoil this for you. Below are my impressions:
I killed him. Then I played it again and realized I couldn't undo what I did. It didn't occur to me that I should have quit before I shot him. This game will seem really stupid to some, but I think it's a sign that games, at least in the independent circle, are transcending traditional game elements in order to make a statement. This one, for me, made a pretty good impression. Sometimes we do things in games only because we know we can undo them. But what if we couldn't? What if the decisions you make in a game are permanent?

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    No love for Mac?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Mac version no?

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Games made with Game Maker are Windows only.

    Even when they're embedded in a web page. The plug-in is Windows only.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Games made with Game Maker are Windows only.

    Even when they're embedded in a web page. The plug-in is Windows only.

    :(

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Woah, that's pretty grim.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I shot him so I lost. But in my defence I did wait around for an alien to try to abduct him first. Then I was shooting at the damn tumbleweed and a stray bullet hit him in the face.. (when I was clearly pointed at the ground in front of his feet)

    Fuck that game.

    But it's kinda cool too.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Uh, spoilers?

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  • suttbeckssuttbecks Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    the "you lose." made me feel bad, so I restarted and decided to try again and save him, but I couldn't, so I deleted the file and redownloaded it, and I still couldn't

    I'm sorry :(

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Uh, spoilers?

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Ok, based on the blatant obviousness of what the game was going to entail, I knew what you were supposed to do going, so I won. Yay for me, I guess.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's funny, I guessed how to win right away.

    But I desided to "lose" first.

    And now it won't let me play again. :(

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  • Shooter McgavinShooter Mcgavin Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    suttbecks wrote: »
    the "you lose." made me feel bad, so I restarted and decided to try again and save him, but I couldn't, so I deleted the file and redownloaded it, and I still couldn't

    I'm sorry :(

    The fact that it's storing random data somewhere on your computer without your consent worries me.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Schide wrote: »
    Ok, based on the blatant obviousness of what the game was going to entail, I knew what you were supposed to do going, so I won. Yay for me, I guess.

    I bet you're the type of person who watches Kung Fu movies and gives out when he can see wires.

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  • Skull ManSkull Man RIP KUSU Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I hit ESC

    it said You Win!

    Congratulations

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    Ok, based on the blatant obviousness of what the game was going to entail, I knew what you were supposed to do going, so I won. Yay for me, I guess.

    I bet you're the type of person who watches Kung Fu movies and gives out when he can see wires.

    Gives out what, ice cream cones? High fives? But no, I'm not. I don't see the correlation. I understood what the game was going for and respect its message, so, yeah.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The interesting part of this was already been done by manhunt. I really don't see "what if what you did in the game was like permanent man", to be all that insightful, though it is good games are moving more in this direction. Let's just hope they start doing it better.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I did it. But I tried to sever his rope in all fairness.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I deleted the Scores folder from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Game Maker\ to reset the game just so I could shoot the guy again...

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    suttbecks wrote: »
    the "you lose." made me feel bad, so I restarted and decided to try again and save him, but I couldn't, so I deleted the file and redownloaded it, and I still couldn't

    I'm sorry :(


    The You Lose made me feel bad, too, so I restarted the game to try again and save him.

    But I couldn't..

    So I deleted it and redownloaded the game and tried again - still couldn't save him.


    So I deleted the files and edited my windows registry.

    Redownloaded the game.


    I saved him!

    :D


    edit: aaahhhhh dammit, so beat'd

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pata wrote: »
    It's funny, I guessed how to win right away.

    But I desided to "lose" first.

    And now it won't let me play again. :(

    This.

    Really interesting from a game design point of view. It's something that I think is very odd in gamer culture, actually - the idea that you can just reload a quicksave and something never happened. Often when you can't do that a game gets panned, when it's really stuff like this that games should be doing.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I win.
    I shot him, then found and deleted the registry key so I could do it again and save him.

    Nobody tells me my actions have consequences.

    Oh hey, looks like I'm not alone in beating the system.

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You've been twice beat'd, Wolfman!

    All kidding aside, it's still a pretty interesting way to present something so simple.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    What is this, some kinda bullshit anti-death sentence propaganda?

    It was pretty obvious what it's intent was. "You lose" even if you had the best of intentions.

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  • TSI|AwesomeTSI|Awesome Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I won, and then I lost on purpose. And then I loaded it again and I shot him again. His corpse wiggles when you shoot him again!

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  • JMC123JMC123 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Ok, putting random shit in my registry WITHOUT my consent is a fucking no-no.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Willeth wrote: »
    Pata wrote: »
    It's funny, I guessed how to win right away.

    But I desided to "lose" first.

    And now it won't let me play again. :(

    This.

    Really interesting from a game design point of view. It's something that I think is very odd in gamer culture, actually - the idea that you can just reload a quicksave and something never happened. Often when you can't do that a game gets panned, when it's really stuff like this that games should be doing.

    Yeah I have to agree.

    It's an interesting statement on the way people expect video games to be.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    JMC123 wrote: »
    Ok, putting random shit in my registry WITHOUT my consent is a fucking no-no.

    Every time you run a program you're basically giving consent to put something in the registry, it's how the computer keeps track of the programs.

    Gamemaker programs use it for high-scores, which is what this game uses.

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  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    JMC123 wrote: »
    Ok, putting random shit in my registry WITHOUT my consent is a fucking no-no.

    Man, everything does it nowadays.

    The registry is overused as fuck-all.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's kinda annoying when games get lauded for doing something in a really black and white manner that other games have covered much more subtly and with far more finesse.

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  • KrentzKrentz Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Haha if you keep shooting him his body bounces around but the blood stays in place.

    Honestly it's more fun to shoot him so I don't see how that would be losing.

    Screw your crappy game for trying to shove a message down my throat.

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  • JerikTelorianJerikTelorian Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    suttbecks wrote: »
    the "you lose." made me feel bad, so I restarted and decided to try again and save him, but I couldn't, so I deleted the file and redownloaded it, and I still couldn't

    I'm sorry :(

    The fact that it's storing random data somewhere on your computer without your consent worries me.

    Yeah, worries me too. I'm looking to see if there's a regkey, but no luck so far.

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    Shade wrote: »
    Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.

    I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Rook wrote: »
    It's kinda annoying when games get lauded for doing something in a really black and white manner that other games have covered much more subtly and with far more finesse.

    I really don't think the execution part is the statement the creators making, heck, I beleive in that thread linked he says so.

    I really think the statement is more on how, you can't take back the decision. After all, isn't that your first impulse when you do something "wrong" in a game? Heck, as I said, I knew how to win, but I was curious, and wanted to see what would happen if I lost. It hit me as kinda profound when I realized I couldn't take my choice back.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Rook wrote: »
    It's kinda annoying when games get lauded for doing something in a really black and white manner that other games have covered much more subtly and with far more finesse.

    Not to mention this very statement has been made before, in a flash game no less.

    There was a game called bomb or something, and you were a sniper aimed at a middle eastern village. You shot and blew up terrorists (people marked with black and bombs) and when you did, other people would come to where they were blown up, cry, and become terrorists themselves.

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Man, I think this is kind of stupid. There's absolutely no context given for killing the guy. What if he deserved it? What if he was a serial killer, and had been sentenced to death? I personally oppose the death sentence in all its forms, but does the executioner? In some cases, killing him may have been the "right" thing to do!

    Basically, this game's message is diluted by lack of context.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The message isn't about the death penalty.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The "message" is ham fisted and not very thought provoking.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited May 2008
    what's the registry entry?

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    what's the registry entry?

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Game Maker

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    what's the registry entry?

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Game Maker\

    EDIT: Once I've been beaten, I can never be unbeaten

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pata wrote: »
    The message isn't about the death penalty.

    Yeah, I know, but that's what's being used to drive the message, and I'm saying the message is weaker because there's NO CONTEXT.

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