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Quick Question about Devil May Cry

AnteCantelopeAnteCantelope Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
Hopefully a quick and simple question: I just bought Devil May Cry 4, expecting a mindless hack and slash sort of game. Apparently, though, it has a story. Can someone please explain to me the story that I've missed from Devil May Crys 1-3? Anything that I would have missed would help.

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    urahonkyurahonky Resident FF7R hater Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    You missed this amazing scene:

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    SmashismSmashism Registered User regular
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    GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DMC 1 - Dante goes to an island and kills a statue.

    DMC 2 - Dante is emo and the game sucks.

    DMC 3 - Dante is younger and fights his brother.

    The plot isn't exactly important (or impressive) in the DMC games.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Hopefully a quick and simple question: I just bought Devil May Cry 4, expecting a mindless hack and slash sort of game. Apparently, though, it has a story. Can someone please explain to me the story that I've missed from Devil May Crys 1-3? Anything that I would have missed would help.

    Ok..

    DMC3 : DANTE WHO IS AWESOME BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS AN AWESOME DEMON FIGHTS MONSTERS WHO STEPPED ON HIS PIZZA AND BUSTED UP HIS SHOP! DANTE FINDS HIS BROTHER WHO IS MORE AWESOME BUT ALSO EVIL! EPIC FIGHTS! DANTE FINDS OUT HE HAS SUPER DEMON POWERS! MORE AWESOME FIGHTS! DANTE FIGHTS HIS BROTHER BECAUSE HE IS MEGA EVIL! DANTE WINS!

    DMC1 : DANTE WHO IS STILL AWESOME FIGHTS MONSTERS AWESOMELY BECAUSE A HOT GIRL ASKED HIM TOO! OH SHIT THE HOT GIRL WAS A MONSTER AFTER ALL!! DANTE WINS GIRL OVER BY BEING AWESOME! MONSTERS KILL GIRL! DANTE KILLS MONSTERS! GIRL COMES BACK!

    DMC2 does not exist and should be ignored. Because it's garbage..


    Seriously though I wouldn't worry too much about the plot. Just know that Dante is awesome because his father was an awesome demon. Thats about it.

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    FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT

    Classic.


    Now do the one with the pizza and the surfing on guys and the party that's getting crazy.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yes, and you missed part of the point. Mindless Hack and Slash DMC4 is NOT.
    Oh sure, at first is it. But then you come across that one enemy that doesn't die easily unless you learn those sweet, sick, smokin' combos.

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    AnteCantelopeAnteCantelope Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    OK, thanks. On with the game!

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    NaloutoNalouto Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    urahonky wrote: »
    You missed this amazing scene:

    this is funny.

    but really. wow. you weren't kidding about "ignore the story."

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    Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    the plot thus far: theres this guy dante. he kills stuff in various ways and is cool.

    ok youre up to speed.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Food wrote: »
    I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE ONE TO FILL YOUR DARK SOUL WITH LIGHT

    Classic.


    Now do the one with the pizza and the surfing on guys and the party that's getting crazy.

    Best Game Intro.. EVER

    For some reason it wont play it in the thread though..

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    SkexisSkexis Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Devil May Cry 2 really wasn't that bad. The gameplay wasn't, at any rate. It also has the benefit of the best soundtrack of all 4 games. But yes, it is kind of a throwaway. It might as well have been a mashup game of Shinobi on PS2 and Resident Evil 2.

    Never did understand why anyone would go to DMC, of all things, for a good story, though. If you look at it that way, you should enjoy DMC2 a lot more.

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    DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, DMC 2 wasn't THAT bad. It did a couple of neat things, like introduce some new acrobatic moves that made their ways into the Trickster and Gunslinger styles in DMC3, introduced the swappable weapons, and had the customizable Devil Trigger thing which I thought was cool and would have been neat to expand on, especially with DMC4 and Nero's somewhat odd DT.

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    randombattlerandombattle Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Skexis wrote: »
    Devil May Cry 2 really wasn't that bad. The gameplay wasn't, at any rate. It also has the benefit of the best soundtrack of all 4 games. But yes, it is kind of a throwaway. It might as well have been a mashup game of Shinobi on PS2 and Resident Evil 2.

    Never did understand why anyone would go to DMC, of all things, for a good story, though. If you look at it that way, you should enjoy DMC2 a lot more.

    DMC2 was a bad game. Everything in it was just so utterly soul less. The enemies were boring and barely moved, the environments were just as stale, the bosses were forgettable and tedious, even the weapons were made lifeless and bland. I mean the fact that it was never meant to be a DMC game shows so clearly.

    The whole thing is just like a piece of stale bread. Sure it's food and the basics are there but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone..

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I actually liked the blood palace in 2 the best though infinte boss rush mode pretty much :D, I think that's its name anyway.

    The only reason you should watch the cutscenes is to watch Dante smart off at bosses/fangirl.

    Get the 5 year anniversary collection if you can, it's all 3 games for $30. You save about that much buying them all seperate. I think 3 SE is $30 alone.

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    PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Skexis wrote: »
    Devil May Cry 2 really wasn't that bad. The gameplay wasn't, at any rate. It also has the benefit of the best soundtrack of all 4 games. But yes, it is kind of a throwaway. It might as well have been a mashup game of Shinobi on PS2 and Resident Evil 2.

    Never did understand why anyone would go to DMC, of all things, for a good story, though. If you look at it that way, you should enjoy DMC2 a lot more.

    DMC2 was a bad game. Everything in it was just so utterly soul less. The enemies were boring and barely moved, the environments were just as stale, the bosses were forgettable and tedious, even the weapons were made lifeless and bland. I mean the fact that it was never meant to be a DMC game shows so clearly.

    The whole thing is just like a piece of stale bread. Sure it's food and the basics are there but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone..

    The last boss was a pretty neat fight.

    I guess that's it.

    EDIT: Dante's last boss fight.

    Nothing good ever came of Lucia.

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    AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DMC3's bar brawl intro is my favouritest, bestest, coolest intro ever. It's so ludicrously over the top (bullet to pool ball to hit multiple pool balls to hit monsters? fuck yes).

    When I first read about the "Dark soul" bit I thought it was a joke redub. I never completed DMC1 more than once (Hard mode seriously is hard when you can't go back to previous missions to farm red orbs like in the later games) so I haven't witnessed it myself, and I think I'm glad I haven't - would ruin my memories of an awesome game D:

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    PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Also, if you haven't played the first two games, AccountingNightmare over at SA has done some pretty good LPs of them. They're both started with fresh unupgraded Dantes/Lucias on DMD mode.

    The second is in the LP forum and I don't know if it's public anymore, though.

    http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/DMC/
    http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2783912

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    NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    i'd still get dmc3

    because basically

    and i'm spoiling the biggest plot thing here right

    dante drives up the side of a tower on a motorcycle

    of course, this is after he killed cerberus, recognised his demonic ancestry, ran down the tower that he had just climbed, got swallowed by a sky crocodile, played a guitar solo, and some other stuff i am forgetting

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Nuzak wrote: »
    i'd still get dmc3

    because basically

    and i'm spoiling the biggest plot thing here right

    dante drives up the side of a tower on a motorcycle

    of course, this is after he killed cerberus, recognised his demonic ancestry, ran down the tower that he had just climbed, got swallowed by a sky crocodile, played a guitar solo, and some other stuff i am forgetting

    I believe what we are trying to say here is that Dante is on a mighty pedestal of badassness, shared only by Storm-1 and Ryu Hayabusa.

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    AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Nuzak wrote: »
    i'd still get dmc3

    because basically

    and i'm spoiling the biggest plot thing here right

    dante drives up the side of a tower on a motorcycle

    of course, this is after he killed cerberus, recognised his demonic ancestry, ran down the tower that he had just climbed, got swallowed by a sky crocodile, played a guitar solo, and some other stuff i am forgetting

    I believe what we are trying to say here is that Dante is on a mighty pedestal of badassness, shared only by Storm-1 and Ryu Hayabusa.

    I kinda want a Capcom VS Tecmo fighter now.

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    3's over the top zaniness is what makes it the best in the series. I mean, you fight demons, with a guitar.

    The bad things about 2.

    No dialogue in 99% of the cutscenes.

    Way too easy, DMD in 2 is Normal in 1.

    Like mentioned, the boring character and environment design.

    It was too fucking dark, I could barely see anything half the time.

    Demon chopper, it wasn't hard it just took an hour to shoot down.

    Weapons were boring and uninspiring, really just reskins of the same starting weapon with altered stats.

    It did have the best music, and some cool boss fights, like a flaming minotaur and a Building demon.

    And it has my favorite music, which is the battle with that big blob thing Dante has to fight. (2nd to last boss).

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    NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Nuzak wrote: »
    i'd still get dmc3

    because basically

    and i'm spoiling the biggest plot thing here right

    dante drives up the side of a tower on a motorcycle

    of course, this is after he killed cerberus, recognised his demonic ancestry, ran down the tower that he had just climbed, got swallowed by a sky crocodile, played a guitar solo, and some other stuff i am forgetting

    I believe what we are trying to say here is that Dante is on a mighty pedestal of badassness, shared only by Storm-1 and Ryu Hayabusa.

    the pedestal is forged from gold bullion, whisky and facial hair

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    1 is entertainingly camp.
    3 tries to be camp, and just comes across as embarrassing.
    This is the chief (but not the only reason) that 1 is better.

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    1 is entertainingly camp.
    3 tries to be camp, and just comes across as embarrassing.
    This is the chief (but not the only reason) that 1 is better.

    You are incorrect.

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    XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    yalborap wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    1 is entertainingly camp.
    3 tries to be camp, and just comes across as embarrassing.
    This is the chief (but not the only reason) that 1 is better.

    You are incorrect.

    If you happen to prefer contrived things, fair enough, I suppose.

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Xagarath wrote: »
    1 is entertainingly camp.
    3 tries to be camp, and just comes across as embarrassing.
    This is the chief (but not the only reason) that 1 is better.

    One, while lacking in the boss fights #s makes up for it with quality. While 3 seemed to go the Quantity>Quality route, not that 3 doesn't have good bosses, my favorite's Beowulf. But fuck Arkham in his goopy ass, no DT for the last half what is that shit.

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    ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Wow, I totally disagree. 3's easily my favorite of the series, and not just because the protagonist isn't an emo suffering from blue balls. The cutscenes are over-the-top awesomeness, the supporting cast is wicked, the combat is excellent, and the boss fights were collectively the best of the series. Sure the Jester fight sucked in SE, but outside of that they were all a blast. In particular, the Vergil fights were wonderful.

    1 and 3 has more of the 'wow' factor going for its fights. The first time you see Gryphon or Phantom in 1, your jaw should hit the floor - they were some seriously incredible designs. The fire demon in 4 was less original but equally impressive, visually, but what really nails the boss fights in 3 as the best is more than their presentation - it's the mechanics of it.

    I don't know why, but 4 and 1 felt like I was slashing away at a target while evading damage, and 3 felt like I was interacting with a character in a world. Lady > Trish. Dante > Nero. 3 > all.

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    MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Also, demon marionette puppets!

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    PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DMC3 has Dante wielding a purple lightning guitar that can summon electro bats to form a nigh impenetrable shield and can transform into a scythe and is actually the soul of a half-naked succubus.

    DMC3 is awesome. (The motorcycle should have been a Devil Arm, for Pete's sake.)

    DMC5 needs to have Dante wielding a boombox that fires lasers, torpedoes and lightning bolts.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    All three Vergil fights in DMC 3 beat the crap out of any other boss fight in any other DMC. Especially on DMD, although I still haven't gotten to Vergil 3 because fuck that chessboard.

    "You're going down!"

    "This is the end!"

    "This may be fun."

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    PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    "You will not forget this devil's power".

    "You are not worthy to be my opponent" (said in a really breathy, raspy voice just after he DTs)

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    GahziGahzi Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Im halfway through 4 and am loving it so far.

    But other than story, was a lot of the gameplay in regards to 3 and 4? Is it still worth picking it up if you played DMC4?

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    "You will not forget this devil's power".

    "You are not worthy to be my opponent" (said in a really breathy, raspy voice just after he DTs)

    Man, I knew I'd forgotten a couple of awesome quotes.

    "This is the end" is what he says after he Super DT and then does the multi orb attack. D:

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    PureauthorPureauthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I consider DMC3 to be the best DMC overall. DMC4 has the Exceed system with Nero, which is a great gameplay mechanic, but it falls apart something fierce when you get to Dante because you're just retreading everything again.

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    GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DMC1 is my personal favorite. It just feels a lot more focused than any of the other games. You effectively get 2 weapons with very diverse movesets, a single character to play as, DT makes you feel like a REAL badass, and so on.

    3 was too over the top. 4 is my second favorite, but the character switch is jarring.

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    MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I really enjoy Dante's style switching, but I can easily go back and forth between 3 and 4 I think.

    I love Nero, I just really enjoy his B grade cheesyness, he's so wonderfully silly. And he has the same facial structure as me, (nose, cheek, chin) how can I not identify with him.

    I happened to get him to hit his air guitar taunt just after killing the last monster in a bloody palace stage, and I left it going to see the whole animation. He didn't stop. I left him like that for a couple of hours while studying, just because looking up seeing him bouncing around like a silly prat was incredibly amusing.

    I love most of his taunts actually. "Bang!" timed with the secondary explosion of blue rose 3 is delicious, the safffffeeee taunt is equally badass done right.

    About the only taunt I dislike is "whadyousay?" because I hear it so many times trying to quickly taunt after a fight to get some dt guage while their body is disintergrating.

    Oh and after you do that move where you slam the sword onto the guy on the ground multiple times, if you let him finish his animation where he swings it up on his shoulder and strikes a pose (he says "Phew!" or "Heh") you get a nice style boost. And he stays there, posing, if you don't touch the controls. :lol:

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    LarsLars Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    DMC1 has odd controls (which you can't change) and doesn't allow you to replay missions like the other games. I wish one of the re-releases had changed that, as it would have probably elevated it to my favorite DMC if they had.
    It definately has the best atmosphere and DT is more than just being more powerful, you also got a bunch of DT-exclusive moves. I also liked that when you DT'd, you didn't turn into a demon, you just glowed with energy, only flashing into demon form during your attacks.

    As for playing DMC4 and then going back...the aforementioned control issues may make DMC1 hard to play (plus I consider it the hardest of the series...it's the only one I haven't cleared on DMD), DMC2 you just have to mash the gun button to beat the game so you wouldn't have any difficulty playing it (it just won't be any fun). DMC3 would play a lot like DMC4's version of Dante except you can't switch styles whenever you want and you only get 2 melee weapons and 2 guns at a time (in exchange, you get 2 more styles, enemy surfing, DT Flux, and the ability to play as Vergil).

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Pureauthor wrote: »
    DMC5 needs to have Dante wielding a boombox that fires lasers, torpedoes and lightning bolts.

    You're close. DMC5 needs to have Dante wielding a boombox that fires more Dantes wielding boomboxes that fire sharks with lazerbeam eyes.

    To be honest, I wouldn't complain if it was just a boombox that shot lazerbeam-eye sharks, and not more Dantes.

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    3's definitely great, but really, the Arkham fight on DMD? that's bullshit.

    Vergil more than makes up for it, especially playing as him though.

    And let's not forget Agnis and Rudra

    "Brother what is sigh?"

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Crazy party, or craziest party? 8-)

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