Okay, I'm gonna lock this thread in a couple of minutes. I'm trying to give everybody ample time so it doesn't look like I'm trying to have the last word, or clamp a lid on anything in particular. But I do have to go.
Actually, I made an "If these changes happen I don't want to be a mod post." Whippy demodded me, I said my goodbyes in the chat thread. Whippy half remodded me, then I spoke with Syndalis about being prepared to move the 360 thread if necessary. He made a thread basically telling everyone that I told him a bunch of stuff, which is true, but I didn't do it meaning for him to make it public. That was an error in judgement on my behalf. Whippy removed my mod forum rights. End of stroy.
This explanation only adds to my confusion as to why the hell Whippy is an admin
Okay, I'm gonna lock this thread in a couple of minutes. I'm trying to give everybody ample time so it doesn't look like I'm trying to have the last word, or clamp a lid on anything in particular. But I do have to go.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
In general I support a move against megathreads.
I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
Edit: I feel this way about megathreads in every forum ever.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
In general I support a move against megathreads.
I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
This is one of the most cogent arguments against their existence.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
In general I support a move against megathreads.
I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
Without megathreads GnT would get about 20 threads an hour when new info is released. It would be rediculous without megathreads.
Thanks, K. Even though our opinions may not matter in the end, I'm glad that we're at least attempting to solve this in a reasonable manner. That's a lot better than some forums I know.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
In general I support a move against megathreads.
I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
I think it's because, the 360 for example, doesn't have many games yet, and when a new one comes out everyone gets it and plays together. A megathread works well in such a case. I'm sure two years down the line it'll be gone.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
In general I support a move against megathreads.
I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
Edit: I feel this way about megathreads in every forum ever.
I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive.
There's nothing that says you can't make a thread about a game. It's just that making a new thread every time some piece of news comes up for a game is REALLY irritating.
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Actually, I made an "If these changes happen I don't want to be a mod post." Whippy demodded me, I said my goodbyes in the chat thread. Whippy half remodded me, then I spoke with Syndalis about being prepared to move the 360 thread if necessary. He made a thread basically telling everyone that I told him a bunch of stuff, which is true, but I didn't do it meaning for him to make it public. That was an error in judgement on my behalf. Whippy removed my mod forum rights. End of stroy.
This explanation only adds to my confusion as to why the hell Whippy is an admin
I personally like whippy.
But he was not the first person I'd think of when choosing an admin successor.
I think the last thing I'll say is what I came in to this thread to say in the first place:
Deal with it or not, the lack of faith in the leadership in G&T is completely justified. The way to deal with this is not "Well, nothing will change, but until then, vent for a while! :D"
The way to deal with it is to allow the forumers to be respected members of the community both among their peers and among the moderators. This has not been happening consistently and the few times it does happen are completely overshadowed by the condescenion, elitism, revisionist history, and non-answers.
Why are certain mods apparently against mega threads like the 360 thread or big game threads? I don't see the problem, or why removing them would even be a discussion.
A post-system release megathread typically only deals with three different topics at once. The current thought amongst the mods is that this information can be tough to find if you need to sift through a megathread, and said info would have a greater survivability as three separate threads.
Also, I get a hard-on by discussing information theory.
Apart from separate per-game threads, a generic "[Game On] Xbox Live" for the flavor of the week has been discussed. This has worked well for the Steam thread.
This may be common forum knowledge, and is pretty off-topic, but I have yet to figure it out... why don't threads (namely the Chat Thread) ever get to 100 pages?
I generally think that megathreads become obsolete once a system has a game library worth playing. I keep coming back to the DS thread to see if there's anything of interest in there, but I'm constantly skimming over posts because of repeat topics. There should be more individual threads for DS games, what screen protectors to get, et cetera by now. I'm not sure it helps to dump it all in one place. Doesn't help anything that they're generally fanboy breeding grounds either, but it's not like you can really get rid of that.
I don't care what happens to the chat thread. Apo wants to ban 4chan? I can deal, though going on a rant about the moral/psychological damage caused by cartoon porno was a can of worms that didn't need to be opened. Image macros and screencaps aren't near as big a problem as some make them out to be, but if you wanna get rid of those, fine. Why not go a step further and start redirecting people to D&D when they get into debates (shouting matches) on evolution or religion or whatever the fuck else? I don't have a clue who enjoys being subjected to that. Shit, you can scrap the thread and redirect everyone to D&D or SE++ for chatting if you feel like it for all I care. Take the slippery slope as far as you want. If this is honestly a big enough deal to people that they'd stop posting on the forums altogether, I can't help but wonder why they came here to begin with.
I can't think of any forumer, mod or otherwise, that I have any beef with. I'm not even sure if this melodrama does anything but justify the "6-year-old girls" thing anyway, but I guess I gotta give K props for asking.
This may be common forum knowledge, and is pretty off-topic, but I have yet to figure it out... why don't threads (namely the Chat Thread) ever get to 100 pages?
There used to be an ugly database error that occurred when threads reached a certain length. Don't know if that's still the case or if it's just tradition at this point.
This may be common forum knowledge, and is pretty off-topic, but I have yet to figure it out... why don't threads (namely the Chat Thread) ever get to 100 pages?
There used to be an ugly database error that occurred when threads reached a certain length. Don't know if that's still the case or if it's just tradition at this point.
On the Megathreads- if you get rid of those, the mods are going to have to lock about 25 "NEW GAME" threads a day and that's going to clutter up the front page and drive a shitton of good threads to page two. Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
On this whole debacle- the mods fucked up the other night. That wasn't the way to do it. Apo comes in and goes "This is a new rule, shit heads, and I'm going to troll you for 30 pages. Who could I bring in that hates you guys even more? Oh here's Uncle Pheezer!" And all hell broke loose. Then Orikae and Captain K came in to try to calm everybody down but (unintentionally, probably) made the problem worse by poor word choice. Seems like all the mods had some poor word choice that night.
There is no reason to get rid of the chat thread that I can see- it's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there. If other people want to join in, let them come. Last time you guys changed it you took it away for nearly a month and that drove a lot of people away for that time, and then it came back and you enforced the "new rules" for about a week or two. Driving away people isn't how you maintain trust in your user base, if you really do care about that at all, and if so it wasn't very evident on that night's expenditures due to Captain K's remarks which were apparently another result of "bad word choice".
It's been said before, but mod badges should not excuse a person from the rules. And where does mcc fit in this? He's demodded I would imagine?
On the Megathreads- if you get rid of those, the mods are going to have to lock about 25 "NEW GAME" threads a day and that's going to clutter up the front page and drive a shitton of good threads to page two. Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
Not only that, but we'll all just gravitate to the first big game on thread or something like that and pretty soon we're all right back where we started but with a big mass of shit on top of it.
Make a thread for smaller pieces of news? Well now you have the problems of not being able to find it in the thread, but with the added lack of a tightly knit community around it that'd be more willing to repeat some things or link to stuff again.
There's no way to win short of locking the forums completely, and then we all just gravitate to one of the alternatives and it either all starts again, or everyone's happy with different leadership.
Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
I disagree entirely. If anything in G&T is cliquey, it's those goddamn megathreads. Every now and then I'll wonder what news might have been released for the Wii recently, subsequently wonder why I never read the Wii thread, and then open it only to see some cock go on about how people who only play Madden or GTA "aren't real gamers." And then I remember why I never read that damn thread on a regular basis.
I've read this thread in full now, and Imran and others make a few good points. Generally, I find it that the people who complain the most and the loudest about G&T don't seem to read the forum to begin with, and their complaints usually don't make much sense to me. This applies especially to the chat thread.
Also, while I'm here. One rule I'd like to see put in place (or maybe just enforced; for all I know it's already a rule): THREADS MUST HAVE RELEVANT SUBJECT LINES.
I'm so goddamn sick of people posting threads with topics like "You'll drool all over yourself when you see this!" or "Need some help with..." and so on. The purpose of a subject line is to let people know what the subject of the post is.
...and that concludes my tangential rant for the day.
Agreed entirely, but G&T is usally pretty good with this. The only thing that kind of irks me is when people start using a dozen different variations of ["X" ON] in the title. "Game on" is supposed to be used to tag competitive multiplayer/score threads, so it gets annoying when that categorization is abused.
Also, Aroduc's post on the previous page pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
On the Megathreads- if you get rid of those, the mods are going to have to lock about 25 "NEW GAME" threads a day and that's going to clutter up the front page and drive a shitton of good threads to page two. Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
Conversely, whenever a thread is made about a new piece of news or game update, you spend anywhere from two to three pages justifying it's existence, just because they already discussed it in the mega-thread 20 pages ago. I have no idea what's going on with the PS3 at this point, excep it has real-time weapons change.
I am completely against removing the megathreads. The arguement that they reduce the amount of individual threads related to a system is mostly a good thing. There are anywhere between five to ten news items on the DS a day, and most of them are not worth making a thread over, so there would be nowhere to post them and discuss.
Some people say they don't want to read an eighty page thread to get news for a system, but I don't want to read eighty threads. The board would quickly turn into GameFAQs this way, full of threads that only have a few posts and quickly get pushed to the second page and beyond. This also makes it harder for the threads with smaller communities to stay active. It would be difficult to find the Animal Crossing thread (which gets a few posts a day, at most) if it were always on a page beyond three.
Imran posted a thread recently on the Trauma Center reprint. This wasn't particularly threadworthy news, but it still received 3 pages, and not one person complained that it had already been thoroughly discussed in the DS thread. Six months ago, he would have been. I think we're past that, and I think we need the megathreads.
I also think being told to go to the megathread when someone posts a thread about news should be counted as thread assassination.
On the Megathreads- if you get rid of those, the mods are going to have to lock about 25 "NEW GAME" threads a day and that's going to clutter up the front page and drive a shitton of good threads to page two. Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
Conversely, whenever a thread is made about a new piece of news or game update, you spend anywhere from two to three pages justifying it's existence, just because they already discussed it in the mega-thread 20 pages ago. I have no idea what's going on with the PS3 at this point, excep it has real-time weapons change.
Screen protectors come up again and again in the DS thread because people can't be bothered to sift through 50+ pages to find the relevant information on them. If we just had separate threads for all these different things, this wouldn't be an issue.
Screen protectors come up again and again in the DS thread because people can't be bothered to sift through 50+ pages to find the relevant information on them. If we just had separate threads for all these different things, this wouldn't be an issue.
No, that issue comes up again and again because it is a case by case situation. Additionally, whenever someone applies a screen protector, they want to talk about it - so they do.
I am completely against removing the megathreads. The arguement that they reduce the amount of individual threads related to a system is mostly a good thing. There are anywhere between five to ten news items on the DS a day, and most of them are not worth making a thread over, so there would be nowhere to post them and discuss.
Some people say they don't want to read an eighty page thread to get news for a system, but I don't want to read eighty threads. The board would quickly turn into GameFAQs this way, full of threads that only have a few posts and quickly get pushed to the second page and beyond. This also makes it harder for the threads with smaller communities to stay active. It would be difficult to find the Animal Crossing thread (which gets a few posts a day, at most) if it was always on a page beyond three.
Imran posted a thread recently on the Trauma Center reprint. This wasn't particularly threadworthy news, but it still received 3 pages, and not one person complained that it had already been thoroughly discussed in the DS thread. Six months ago, he would have been. I think we're past that, and I think we need the megathreads.
I also think being told to go to the megathread when someone posts a thread about news should be counted as thread assassination.
I think megathreads are fine, but if there is some big news item or a new trailer that everyone is talking about, it should be in the OP for easy access. Its really annoying if everyone is talking about a trailer for a PS3 game and I have to use the search function just to find a link. Sometimes the thread poster even updates the thread title with new info, but not the actual OP. That annoys me a lot. If you post a megathread OP, you are responsible for updating it.
EDIT: That screen protectors issue relates to what I'm talking about too. If theres a FAQ brought up every other day, why isnt it in the OP?
I think megathreads are fine, but if there is some big news item or a new trailer that everyone is talking about, it should be in the OP for easy access. Its really annoying if everyone is talking about a trailer for a PS3 game and I have to use the search function just to find a link. Sometimes the thread poster even updates the thread title with new info, but not the actual OP. That annoys me a lot. If you post a megathread OP, you are responsible for updating it.
I agree. I also think the megathread OPs shouldn't be giant clusterfucks of information that everyone already knows, with huge fonts and a thousand images. They need to have a more minimalistic design that lends itself better to finding relevant information.
Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
I disagree entirely. If anything in G&T is cliquey, it's those goddamn megathreads. Every now and then I'll wonder what news might have been released for the Wii recently, subsequently wonder why I never read the Wii thread, and then open it only to see some cock go on about how people who only play Madden or GTA "aren't real gamers." And then I remember why I never read that damn thread on a regular basis.
The issue here is that when they say that, they're right. If you touch only two series, only buy a console for two series, and don't ever consider moving beyond that, you're not a gamer. You're...Something, possibly stupid for buying a console just for madden and GTA, but you're not much of a gamer.
At the same time, I wouldn't consider anyone who plays just one or two series much of a serious gamer, whether it was GTA, tetris, Mario or <insert your favorite series here>. Because really, you're not. If you only watch the x-men movies, you're not a serious movie-goer. If you only read stuff by the guy who wrote the davinci code, you're not a serious book-reader. If you only listen to one or two bands that the radio tells you to listen to, you're not much of a serious music-listener. You're serious about these things when you look BEYOND what's popular. When you look and see the things barely anyone else has ever heard of and give it a try, just because you think you might like it.
t's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there.
That sounds like the definition of a clique to me. A clique (klɪk, klik) is an informal and restricted social group formed by a number of people who share common interests - formal social groups are referred to as societies or organizations.
And where does mcc fit in this? He's demodded I would imagine?
No he's not. But the hell if I knew where he is since he apparently threw in the towel - that's the last post he made. We have a big 16-page thread in the mod forum where we've been discussing nothing but G&T and the direction we would like to see it travel in. mcc has done zero posts in that thread, and for all that I know he never even read it.
I have no idea why; I know he's a smart guy and I would have loved to have his input in that debate. God knows we could use it.
t's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there.
That sounds like the definition of a clique to me. A clique (klɪk, klik) is an informal and restricted social group formed by a number of people who share common interests - formal social groups are referred to as societies or organizations.
We're not restricted. At all.
And as, I think Imran, made a point a couple of pages back - most people who post in the Chat thread post in the rest of G&T too, and are active members of the community. If you want to drive them away, well, fine.
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The only question I have, since I don't much follow the chat threads ( I have Social Entropy ++ for chatting ) is that if we are so short on mods why are there not more? Someone said it earlier that there are plenty of tallented forumers around.
Just when you pick new ones this next round, try for some who have some cursory CS skills, and I don't mean Counter Strike.
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Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
I disagree entirely. If anything in G&T is cliquey, it's those goddamn megathreads. Every now and then I'll wonder what news might have been released for the Wii recently, subsequently wonder why I never read the Wii thread, and then open it only to see some cock go on about how people who only play Madden or GTA "aren't real gamers." And then I remember why I never read that damn thread on a regular basis.
The issue here is that when they say that, they're right. If you touch only two series, only buy a console for two series, and don't ever consider moving beyond that, you're not a gamer. You're...Something, possibly stupid for buying a console just for madden and GTA, but you're not much of a gamer.....
I'm pretty sure you missed the point. I'm just going to say that I get a "we're better than you" attitude from certain communities within G&T and leave it at that. I have never cared for it, and it's either gotten worse since I started posting here or I'm just going crazy.
t's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there.
That sounds like the definition of a clique to me. A clique (klɪk, klik) is an informal and restricted social group formed by a number of people who share common interests - formal social groups are referred to as societies or organizations.
To be fair, registration has been switched on and off due to raids quite a lot lately, so I'm sure stuff like that hasn't been helping.
I agree with others who have stated, that while the megathreads should not go, they do need some changes. One thing that would help, is if i may go back in time a bit, when anime discussion was allowed, the OP would update his first post with all relevant information or news/questions that were raised frequently. The same idea has been applied to the desktop threads and it should apply all megathreads in general.
As for megathreads being cliquey, that all depends on who is visiting the thread, I myself rarely get involved with them as they move too quickly for my attention span and I like to just dive in throw out some posts related to the current subject and then climb back out. I can see how easy it is to be intimidated because there is a group of forumers who are in every same megathread but that is only because they have that dedication. I have never once been flamed or turned away by randomly entering a megathread.
I think megathreads are fine, but if there is some big news item or a new trailer that everyone is talking about, it should be in the OP for easy access. Its really annoying if everyone is talking about a trailer for a PS3 game and I have to use the search function just to find a link. Sometimes the thread poster even updates the thread title with new info, but not the actual OP. That annoys me a lot. If you post a megathread OP, you are responsible for updating it.
I agree. I also think the megathread OPs shouldn't be giant clusterfucks of information that everyone already knows, with huge fonts and a thousand images. They need to have a more minimalistic design that lends itself better to finding relevant information.
What I'd like for the OP of the megathreads is an index. Make a list of interesting news/information that has been discussed since the thread was created and link to the appropriate page/post.
For instance the instructions on how to apply the screen protectors might not necessarily need to be pasted into the OP but at least put a link to where they were posted so I can find them easily.
Nobody complains about the megathreads but the mods, and if I waltz in one of them and have a question regarding a game currently or previously released I generally get an answer.
I disagree entirely. If anything in G&T is cliquey, it's those goddamn megathreads. Every now and then I'll wonder what news might have been released for the Wii recently, subsequently wonder why I never read the Wii thread, and then open it only to see some cock go on about how people who only play Madden or GTA "aren't real gamers." And then I remember why I never read that damn thread on a regular basis.
The issue here is that when they say that, they're right. If you touch only two series, only buy a console for two series, and don't ever consider moving beyond that, you're not a gamer. You're...Something, possibly stupid for buying a console just for madden and GTA, but you're not much of a gamer.....
I'm pretty sure you missed the point. I'm just going to say that I get a "we're better than you" attitude from certain communities within G&T and leave it at that. I have never cared for it, and it's either gotten worse since I started posting here or I'm just going crazy.
t's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there.
That sounds like the definition of a clique to me. A clique (klɪk, klik) is an informal and restricted social group formed by a number of people who share common interests - formal social groups are referred to as societies or organizations.
To be fair, registration has been switched on and off due to raids quite a lot lately, so I'm sure stuff like that hasn't been helping.
I think the chat thread is more accomodating to new people than it ever was.
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I'd like to see many more game specific threads. There has been a huge drop off since the megathreads came around.
Edit: I feel this way about megathreads in every forum ever.
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Without megathreads GnT would get about 20 threads an hour when new info is released. It would be rediculous without megathreads.
There's nothing that says you can't make a thread about a game. It's just that making a new thread every time some piece of news comes up for a game is REALLY irritating.
But he was not the first person I'd think of when choosing an admin successor.
Deal with it or not, the lack of faith in the leadership in G&T is completely justified. The way to deal with this is not "Well, nothing will change, but until then, vent for a while! :D"
The way to deal with it is to allow the forumers to be respected members of the community both among their peers and among the moderators. This has not been happening consistently and the few times it does happen are completely overshadowed by the condescenion, elitism, revisionist history, and non-answers.
That's all.
I'll probably open this thread again sometime tomorrow.
A post-system release megathread typically only deals with three different topics at once. The current thought amongst the mods is that this information can be tough to find if you need to sift through a megathread, and said info would have a greater survivability as three separate threads.
Also, I get a hard-on by discussing information theory.
Apart from separate per-game threads, a generic "[Game On] Xbox Live" for the flavor of the week has been discussed. This has worked well for the Steam thread.
I don't care what happens to the chat thread. Apo wants to ban 4chan? I can deal, though going on a rant about the moral/psychological damage caused by cartoon porno was a can of worms that didn't need to be opened. Image macros and screencaps aren't near as big a problem as some make them out to be, but if you wanna get rid of those, fine. Why not go a step further and start redirecting people to D&D when they get into debates (shouting matches) on evolution or religion or whatever the fuck else? I don't have a clue who enjoys being subjected to that. Shit, you can scrap the thread and redirect everyone to D&D or SE++ for chatting if you feel like it for all I care. Take the slippery slope as far as you want. If this is honestly a big enough deal to people that they'd stop posting on the forums altogether, I can't help but wonder why they came here to begin with.
I can't think of any forumer, mod or otherwise, that I have any beef with. I'm not even sure if this melodrama does anything but justify the "6-year-old girls" thing anyway, but I guess I gotta give K props for asking.
There used to be an ugly database error that occurred when threads reached a certain length. Don't know if that's still the case or if it's just tradition at this point.
However, this recent drama and pissyness has driven one regular out of G&T, congrats.
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On this whole debacle- the mods fucked up the other night. That wasn't the way to do it. Apo comes in and goes "This is a new rule, shit heads, and I'm going to troll you for 30 pages. Who could I bring in that hates you guys even more? Oh here's Uncle Pheezer!" And all hell broke loose. Then Orikae and Captain K came in to try to calm everybody down but (unintentionally, probably) made the problem worse by poor word choice. Seems like all the mods had some poor word choice that night.
There is no reason to get rid of the chat thread that I can see- it's not a clique, it's just that nobody else comes in but the ones who were already there. If other people want to join in, let them come. Last time you guys changed it you took it away for nearly a month and that drove a lot of people away for that time, and then it came back and you enforced the "new rules" for about a week or two. Driving away people isn't how you maintain trust in your user base, if you really do care about that at all, and if so it wasn't very evident on that night's expenditures due to Captain K's remarks which were apparently another result of "bad word choice".
It's been said before, but mod badges should not excuse a person from the rules. And where does mcc fit in this? He's demodded I would imagine?
Where do you guys even get this information?
Not only that, but we'll all just gravitate to the first big game on thread or something like that and pretty soon we're all right back where we started but with a big mass of shit on top of it.
Make a thread for smaller pieces of news? Well now you have the problems of not being able to find it in the thread, but with the added lack of a tightly knit community around it that'd be more willing to repeat some things or link to stuff again.
There's no way to win short of locking the forums completely, and then we all just gravitate to one of the alternatives and it either all starts again, or everyone's happy with different leadership.
I've read this thread in full now, and Imran and others make a few good points. Generally, I find it that the people who complain the most and the loudest about G&T don't seem to read the forum to begin with, and their complaints usually don't make much sense to me. This applies especially to the chat thread.
Anyway...
Agreed entirely, but G&T is usally pretty good with this. The only thing that kind of irks me is when people start using a dozen different variations of ["X" ON] in the title. "Game on" is supposed to be used to tag competitive multiplayer/score threads, so it gets annoying when that categorization is abused.
Also, Aroduc's post on the previous page pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
Conversely, whenever a thread is made about a new piece of news or game update, you spend anywhere from two to three pages justifying it's existence, just because they already discussed it in the mega-thread 20 pages ago. I have no idea what's going on with the PS3 at this point, excep it has real-time weapons change.
Some people say they don't want to read an eighty page thread to get news for a system, but I don't want to read eighty threads. The board would quickly turn into GameFAQs this way, full of threads that only have a few posts and quickly get pushed to the second page and beyond. This also makes it harder for the threads with smaller communities to stay active. It would be difficult to find the Animal Crossing thread (which gets a few posts a day, at most) if it were always on a page beyond three.
Imran posted a thread recently on the Trauma Center reprint. This wasn't particularly threadworthy news, but it still received 3 pages, and not one person complained that it had already been thoroughly discussed in the DS thread. Six months ago, he would have been. I think we're past that, and I think we need the megathreads.
I also think being told to go to the megathread when someone posts a thread about news should be counted as thread assassination.
EDIT: That screen protectors issue relates to what I'm talking about too. If theres a FAQ brought up every other day, why isnt it in the OP?
The issue here is that when they say that, they're right. If you touch only two series, only buy a console for two series, and don't ever consider moving beyond that, you're not a gamer. You're...Something, possibly stupid for buying a console just for madden and GTA, but you're not much of a gamer.
At the same time, I wouldn't consider anyone who plays just one or two series much of a serious gamer, whether it was GTA, tetris, Mario or <insert your favorite series here>. Because really, you're not. If you only watch the x-men movies, you're not a serious movie-goer. If you only read stuff by the guy who wrote the davinci code, you're not a serious book-reader. If you only listen to one or two bands that the radio tells you to listen to, you're not much of a serious music-listener. You're serious about these things when you look BEYOND what's popular. When you look and see the things barely anyone else has ever heard of and give it a try, just because you think you might like it.
Rant done, silly point made.
That sounds like the definition of a clique to me. A clique (klɪk, klik) is an informal and restricted social group formed by a number of people who share common interests - formal social groups are referred to as societies or organizations.
No he's not. But the hell if I knew where he is since he apparently threw in the towel - that's the last post he made. We have a big 16-page thread in the mod forum where we've been discussing nothing but G&T and the direction we would like to see it travel in. mcc has done zero posts in that thread, and for all that I know he never even read it.
I have no idea why; I know he's a smart guy and I would have loved to have his input in that debate. God knows we could use it.
And as, I think Imran, made a point a couple of pages back - most people who post in the Chat thread post in the rest of G&T too, and are active members of the community. If you want to drive them away, well, fine.
Just when you pick new ones this next round, try for some who have some cursory CS skills, and I don't mean Counter Strike.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
To be fair, registration has been switched on and off due to raids quite a lot lately, so I'm sure stuff like that hasn't been helping.
As for megathreads being cliquey, that all depends on who is visiting the thread, I myself rarely get involved with them as they move too quickly for my attention span and I like to just dive in throw out some posts related to the current subject and then climb back out. I can see how easy it is to be intimidated because there is a group of forumers who are in every same megathread but that is only because they have that dedication. I have never once been flamed or turned away by randomly entering a megathread.
What I'd like for the OP of the megathreads is an index. Make a list of interesting news/information that has been discussed since the thread was created and link to the appropriate page/post.
For instance the instructions on how to apply the screen protectors might not necessarily need to be pasted into the OP but at least put a link to where they were posted so I can find them easily.