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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    Nucsh wrote:
    We have 6 (5? I don't know what's going on with mcc) mods currently, down from 8 (possibly 9?), and I don't see ceres on the list anymore, so I'm not sure if she's still crossmodded.

    Evidence points to the fact that we're short a few mods suddenly. No other real reason aside from that, but if leadership/enforcement starts to fade (or seem to from our end), I'd have a more concrete reason. Right now I'm just being observant.
    a couple points:

    -ceres stepped down from a g&t mod because a forumer was harassing her over the recent drama despite the fact that she was not a part of it at all. she decided she'd rather step down than continue to have to deal with harassment.

    -nobody knows where mcc is.

    -the chat thread may be removed (among other reasons) because although it was originally intended to catch the off-topic banter (yet still related to games/tech) from the other threads. it has become a major focus of the community, like a miniature se++ in which some forumers feel they have carte blanche (linking to porn sites, posting nsfw images). this is a result of sloppy moderating on the part of the mod staff and, if nothing else, will result in some tightening of our stalin-esque iron fist.

    -other forums chat threads, as they are for communities which are smaller than G&T (in some cases, almost nonexistent, see linksville), and so deal with issues that are part of the focus of the forum -- they are definitely on-topic most of the time. (literary things discussed in WB chat thread, art things in AC, debate things in D&D)
    dragonsama wrote:
    3. If there are going to be changes to the rules they should be announced and posters having some time to adjust not a "do this or else" attitude about new rules.

    that is, in fact, what happened. apo posted saying 'get ready for a time when 4chan is a bannable offense' and dudes blew up because apparently a porn site is something which should be allowed to be discussed and linked to. i understand that the manner in which the request was made was antagonistic; however, the underlying point is a solid one and one which likely will not change. 4chan used to be a bannable offense, now it is a commonplace sight in the chat thread, again as a result of moderator slippage. the slippage will be corrected, because it has resulted in an atmosphere which encourages assholery because of lax moderation.

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    I don't think assigning a mod to the chat thread would be productive. We can't really expect anyone to be able to babysit a thread 24/7. The chat thread should be covered by the regular mods same as the rest of the forum and gosh darn it I'd like to believe that we are grown up enough to be able to function even when we occasionally lack "adult" supervision.

    That said G&T has lost a few mods lately, though I hope mcc isn't gone forever, and replacing them with new ones might not be a bad idea in and of itself.

    What about a new type of moderator? Community mods?

    Community mods wouldnt have as much power as normal mods, at the most having the power to temp. ban and/or jail people, but enough to keep forums in check. Community mods would be people with above-average posting ability, and would watch over thread and jail people who get out of hand. If things grow too heated, comm. mods can contact the regular mods to lock and/or cause more powerful duties.

    This is all brainstorming, im just thinking of ways to fix the low-moderator issue and sometimes power abuse in mods.
    this is the deputy system.

    we will never have another deputy system.

    I remember that. What exactly caused it to fail?

    Artoria on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    dragonsama wrote:
    I remember that. What exactly caused it to fail?
    i don't know. whippy or the older mods could probably answer that.

    Orikaeshigitae on
  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Henroid wrote:
    At this point, I'm officially on board the idea that all chit-chat should be done in SE++.
    Ugh. I don't have anything against SE++ forumers, but I don't care for SE++. In my experience, every other thread there goes wildly off-topic by page 2, so I could never really find a conversation I wanted to take part in.

    D&D always seemed like the proper place for topical chat. Isn't it basically just the replacement for EE to begin with?

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  • ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Nucsh wrote:
    We have 6 (5? I don't know what's going on with mcc) mods currently, down from 8 (possibly 9?), and I don't see ceres on the list anymore, so I'm not sure if she's still crossmodded.

    Evidence points to the fact that we're short a few mods suddenly. No other real reason aside from that, but if leadership/enforcement starts to fade (or seem to from our end), I'd have a more concrete reason. Right now I'm just being observant.
    a couple points:

    -ceres stepped down from a g&t mod because a forumer was harassing her over the recent drama despite the fact that she was not a part of it at all. she decided she'd rather step down than continue to have to deal with harassment.

    -nobody knows where mcc is.

    -the chat thread may be removed (among other reasons) because although it was originally intended to catch the off-topic banter (yet still related to games/tech) from the other threads. it has become a major focus of the community, like a miniature se++ in which some forumers feel they have carte blanche (linking to porn sites, posting nsfw images). this is a result of sloppy moderating on the part of the mod staff and, if nothing else, will result in some tightening of our stalin-esque iron fist.

    -other forums chat threads, as they are for communities which are smaller than G&T (in some cases, almost nonexistent, see linksville), and so deal with issues that are part of the focus of the forum -- they are definitely on-topic most of the time. (literary things discussed in WB chat thread, art things in AC, debate things in D&D)
    dragonsama wrote:
    3. If there are going to be changes to the rules they should be announced and posters having some time to adjust not a "do this or else" attitude about new rules.

    that is, in fact, what happened. apo posted saying 'get ready for a time when 4chan is a bannable offense' and dudes blew up because apparently a porn site is something which should be allowed to be discussed and linked to. i understand that the manner in which the request was made was antagonistic; however, the underlying point is a solid one and one which likely will not change. 4chan used to be a bannable offense, now it is a commonplace sight in the chat thread, again as a result of moderator slippage. the slippage will be corrected.

    I am in complete agreement that 4Chan is pretty much a P0rn site for the most part and linking to it should be result in a jailing. Like i said in my other post the way he went about announcing was just wrong and asking for trouble. If he said it like I had suggested

    "hey guys this 4Chan Stuff is porn and we have a rule against that. so lay off the 4Chan stuff OK?"

    This would not have even become an issue I think people would have responded to it better. Hopefully some lessons have been learned by all sides in this and we can move on.

    Artoria on
  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    edited June 2006
    D&D always seemed like the proper place for topical chat. Isn't it basically just the replacement for EE to begin with?

    EE = D&D. It just changed name.

    Echo on
  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    dragonsama wrote:
    I remember that. What exactly caused it to fail?
    i don't know. whippy or the older mods could probably answer that.

    I think it was because of the oversight involved in letting jr mods (and really that's what they were) control the forums.

    Slungsolow on
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  • ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Slungsolow wrote:
    dragonsama wrote:
    I remember that. What exactly caused it to fail?
    i don't know. whippy or the older mods could probably answer that.

    I think it was because of the oversight involved in letting jr mods (and really that's what they were) control the forums.

    Sounds like it turned into the "too many hands in the Kitchen" scenario.

    Artoria on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Henroid wrote:
    At this point, I'm officially on board the idea that all chit-chat should be done in SE++.
    Ugh. I don't have anything against SE++ forumers, but I don't care for SE++. In my experience, every other thread there goes wildly off-topic by page 2, so I could never really find a conversation I wanted to take part in.

    D&D always seemed like the proper place for topical chat. Isn't it basically just the replacement for EE to begin with?
    If SE++ ain't your kinda place, then participate in D&D, yes.

    Henroid on
  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Henroid wrote:
    Well see, SE++ is supposed to be the social center of the forums. The original intent behind the chat thread was to curb the side discussion that could occur in on-topic threads, and even let the community (G&T specific) get to know each other. I would say it worked for the first few months as intended, and then started to become the focus of forumers. Y'know, people joining for the chat thread and not necessarily G&T.

    At this point, I'm officially on board the idea that all chit-chat should be done in SE++.

    See, I have a serious issue with this.

    Everyone is talking about how GnT chat is nothing more then a clicque, well SE is the biggest clique this place has. Yes, it is possible to transfer from one to the other succesfully, but in my few attempts, I have been met with nthing more then disdain.

    I like the GnT chat because I am a gamer, but not a serious gamer. I can hold a conversation, or discuss a tiny amount of videogame stuff there amoungst the other shit we talk about without feeling like people are going to start making fun of me, comparing me to GAMEFAQs.

    I am not trying to incite something between SE here, I'm just saying, that people who think moving ALL chat to SE because of the clique attitude are trying to move people out of the frying pan into the fire.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    dragonsama wrote:
    Slungsolow wrote:
    dragonsama wrote:
    I remember that. What exactly caused it to fail?
    i don't know. whippy or the older mods could probably answer that.

    I think it was because of the oversight involved in letting jr mods (and really that's what they were) control the forums.

    Sounds like it turned into the "too many hands in the Kitchen" scenario.

    Actually, the Deputy system worked fine. The problem with it lies within the jail system itself. Jailing is not a serious punishment. I don't care that it annoys you that your post timer is a little longer or you can't use BBCode, but it's hardly a punishment. It's a really light slap on the wrist compared to the next step up, a temp ban.

    However, while jailing is applicable in plenty of situations that Deputies could take care of, they just didn't have enough power. They could jail someone for posting a NSFW image, but not ban them or even edit the post. It just resulted in deputies being the same as the forumers that used to PM mods when they see something bad going on, because usually a jailing just didn't cut it. If we gave them any more power, they just might as well have been made mods.

    If Whippy or Deni or bone daddy wants to give a more official reason for it's departure, it would probably make more sense, but that's what the basic sentiment was before we canned it.

    Monoxide on
  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited June 2006
    If people spent half as much energy discussing meta-drama, I think there'd be about 95% less actual drama.

    This discussion for example. Where on earth did the news of "the chat thread is on its way out and we must protect it from the aggressors" come from?

    Aroduc on
  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    Aroduc wrote:
    If people spent half as much energy not discussing meta-drama, I think there'd be about 95% less actual drama.

    This discussion for example. Where on earth did the news of "the chat thread is on its way out and we must protect it from the aggressors" come from?

    Well, it's a possibility that it could be on it's way out. If you weren't aware, I'm telling you right now.

    Monoxide on
  • TofenheimerTofenheimer Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    I think it's just because it's been taken away before. Someone mentioned that and then it escalated.

    As far as I know no mod has said that it's going away at the moment, mind you I wasn't here for whatever inspired this thread so I may be wrong.

    Edit: Well I guess that decides that. I was/am wrong. Though considering what's happening there right now I can't say that I blame them.

    Tofenheimer on
  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited June 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    Aroduc wrote:
    If people spent half as much energy not discussing meta-drama, I think there'd be about 95% less actual drama.

    This discussion for example. Where on earth did the news of "the chat thread is on its way out and we must protect it from the aggressors" come from?

    Well, it's a possibility that it could be on it's way out. If you weren't aware, I'm telling you right now.

    That possibility's been there since it actually was gone for a week or two. I'm just saying it would be easier to just behave intelligently and be good than try to fight for your right to have something.

    Aroduc on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.

    Henroid on
  • KyouKyou Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited June 2006
    Actually, I made an "If these changes happen I don't want to be a mod post." Whippy demodded me, I said my goodbyes in the chat thread. Whippy half remodded me, then I spoke with Syndalis about being prepared to move the 360 thread if necessary. He made a thread basically telling everyone that I told him a bunch of stuff, which is true, but I didn't do it meaning for him to make it public. That was an error in judgement on my behalf. Whippy removed my mod forum rights. End of stroy.
    And, just because I think this deserves reinforcement.

    Yes, Raijin told me that I might need to consider moving the 360 thread depending on mod actions in the coming days, and that he was no longer to be a mod. That was it. That was all he said. Period.

    I then used my handy dandy search button, and read the conversation in the chat thread that led to this mess. Upon reading THAT (not Raijin's comments), I posted in the 360 thread what I did, which remained VERY vague... because all I had was vaguries.

    Raijin did nothing wrong... and did nothing more than Imran or Conditional Axe could have done, ahd they decided to send me a link to the chat thread where it was discussed. this whole situation stinks.

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  • TofenheimerTofenheimer Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Kyou wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?

    I believe that's part of the admins responsibilities, and I guess the other mods since the admins can't be everywhere.

    Tofenheimer on
  • Nfinit VylenceNfinit Vylence Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Kyou wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?

    Chuck Norris.

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    I personally have never seen GnT drive anyone away, except if they are either trolling, or are from SE and are badmouthing GnT.

    rayofash on
  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Kyou wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?
    Ramius did a good job of it. I mean, here's how it used to work (this isn't leaked mod info, as it was public knowledge):

    The mods chose their own replacements, with Ramius sometimes picking. There was an established mod team for G&T, and as they needed new mods they got to pick them. So they kinda managed themselves.

    Henroid on
  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    Kyou wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?

    Chuck Norris.

    Come on, man. Get with the times. It's giant enemy crabs, now. Or maybe real time mod moderators.

    Monoxide on
  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Kyou wrote:
    Henroid wrote:
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Why we need new GnT mods: Orikae is in the chat thread. He lectures us for driving people away, even though people drove them away because they were constantly badmouthing GnT when they weren't in the chat thread. Then Bedlam comes in, and starts trolling, along with Slungsolow, and Orikae doesn't do a fucking thing because he wants to be friends with everyone. What the fuck.
    G&T used to have a steady rotation of mods, and it kinda came to a halt when the current team came to be. We now know why the rotation was natural - the mods wore out their welcome. (like me, olol)

    Every mod has something about them that makes them terrible at the "job." It's tolerable at first, and then after a while it turns into people saying, "Enough is enough." This is one of those times.
    But who mods the mods?

    I believe that's part of the admins responsibilities, and I guess the other mods since the admins can't be everywhere.
    Don't we only have two admins?

    One of whom is never here?

    ...okay, three counting Khoo, who is also never here and I don't expect him to anyway since he has more important things to do.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Don't we only have two admins?

    One of whom is never here?

    ...okay, three counting Khoo, who is also never here and I don't expect him to anyway since he has more important things to do.
    Whippy is the social-admin. Alpha is the tech-admin. And Khoo is the business-admin.

    It's like the Holy Trinity.

    Alpha has a lot to do on his own time, and he just dealt with a fucking two or three month battle with fixing the forum. It's not an easy job. Khoo only needs to address things that concern Penny Arcade the business. And as for Whippy, well, he's the one we go to for shit like this. That position that Whippy has is the most overwhelming one to be in.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    This thread was doing so well yesterday.

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  • mogdemonmogdemon Kansas, USRegistered User regular
    edited June 2006
    To my understanding, the root of the problem has been poor communication. Were the correct messages stated? Perhaps. But the mods and forumers alike have been guilty of making personal attacks, probably unintentionally, when what should have happened was discussion of specific grievances.

    I could be perfectly well-meaning, but if you were listening to some music and I thought it was too loud, how would you like me to tell you? I could say, "Your music is too loud." Or, I could say, "Do you mind turning the music down while I work on this crossword puzzle?"

    Subtle difference.

    But then again, I'm the one who is always conscious of what I'm saying because I have a terrible fear of pissing people off or hurting their feelings. (And I proofread every post I make on the forums.)

    But geez, I've never seen drama like this outside of the petty cat fights within the color guard at my school.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    Monoxide on
  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    The thread was doing so much better until Mai-Kero starting acting like a 3 year old and made private matter public business.

    There really should be a banning for this, because the little fucker is dragging my name back into this topic.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    And if we have issue with mods not doing anything because they're friends with trolls, who do we take it up with? The admin? Who's friends with the mods?

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    mogdemon wrote:
    I could be perfectly well-meaning, but if you were listening to some music and I thought it was too loud, how would you like me to tell you? I could say, "TURN YOUR MUSIC OFF OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!" Or, I could say, "Do you mind turning the music down while I work on this crossword puzzle?"
    I think I've properly fixed it to reflect the situation

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  • FierceDeity666FierceDeity666 Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    mogdemon wrote:
    I could be perfectly well-meaning, but if you were listening to some music and I thought it was too loud, how would you like me to tell you? I could say, "TURN YOUR MUSIC OFF OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!" Or, I could say, "Do you mind turning the music down while I work on this crossword puzzle?"
    I think I've properly fixed it to reflect the situation
    yeah, this sounds about right.

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  • KrizKriz Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    I would like to suggest harsher punishments for breaking the G&T Chat Thread rules, rather than getting rid of it entirely. Please don't let the minority ruin it for those of us who follow the rules.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    And if we have issue with mods not doing anything because they're friends with trolls, who do we take it up with? The admin? Who's friends with the mods?
    *head -> desk*

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    mogdemon wrote:
    I could be perfectly well-meaning, but if you were listening to some music and I thought it was too loud, how would you like me to tell you? I could say, "Your music is too loud." Or, I could say, "Do you mind turning the music down while I work on this crossword puzzle?"
    We need to go back to the iron-fisted mod tactic. It's impersonal but effective.

    Henroid on
  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    And if we have issue with mods not doing anything because they're friends with trolls, who do we take it up with? The admin? Who's friends with the mods?

    Private fucking message means you don't have to deal with it. Delete it and move on. If he's not sending you porn or goatse or something, I'm not going to do anything about it. I will, however, do something about the both of you dragging a personal matter into a public thread that has nothing to do with you.

    If you think this decision is unfair, yes. Tell Whippy. Tell Alpha. Tell whoever you want, but I guarantee you they'll give you the same answer. The mods are not your parents, and unless you're continually harassed, and you weren't (you got one PM), you have the option to just not respond to it.

    Monoxide on
  • NucshNucsh Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    And if we have issue with mods not doing anything because they're friends with trolls, who do we take it up with? The admin? Who's friends with the mods?
    *head -> desk*

    Nucsh on
    [SIGPIC]GIANT ENEMY BEAR[/SIGPIC]
  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Monoxide wrote:
    We're not discussing that in here. Shut up about it. It's seriously not the place for it. If you have an issue with a user, take it up with a mod (me).

    And if we have issue with mods not doing anything because they're friends with trolls, who do we take it up with? The admin? Who's friends with the mods?
    *head -> desk*
    If that's the case, you take it up with me. I am friends with no one.

    Pheezer on
    IT'S GOT ME REACHING IN MY POCKET IT'S GOT ME FORKING OVER CASH
    CUZ THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S GIVING ME A RASH
  • FierceDeity666FierceDeity666 Registered User regular
    edited June 2006
    Henroid wrote:
    mogdemon wrote:
    I could be perfectly well-meaning, but if you were listening to some music and I thought it was too loud, how would you like me to tell you? I could say, "Your music is too loud." Or, I could say, "Do you mind turning the music down while I work on this crossword puzzle?"
    We need to go back to the iron-fisted mod tactic. It's impersonal but effective.
    the kind that Duck used to use?

    FierceDeity666 on
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