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Assassin's Creed getting a 4.5 out of a 10 scale is a fucking joke. That is way too high a score for that shitfest of a "game". I would give it a -50. Out of 0 to 10. A negative fifty.
So much potential, wasted, ended up making that game far worse than it if was just a mediocre game without potential from the start. And for anyone who says I didn't play it enough. Fuck you, I did all the missions and beat the game. By the end I wanted to murder everyone one I've ever known and loved to save them from the horrors of this plane of existence; if such a tragedy as Assassin's Creed can exist in this world, I don't want to know what other hellspawn lurk in our reality.
So fuck EGM. A goddamn 4.5 for AC. Are you high? -50.
Assassin's Creed getting a 4.5 out of a 10 scale is a fucking joke. That is way too high a score for that shitfest of a "game". I would give it a -50. Out of 0 to 10. A negative fifty.
So much potential, wasted, ended up making that game far worse than it if was just a mediocre game without potential from the start. And for anyone who says I didn't play it enough. Fuck you, I did all the missions and beat the game. By the end I wanted to murder everyone one I've ever known and loved to save them from the horrors of this plane of existence; if such a tragedy as Assassin's Creed can exist in this world, I don't want to know what other hellspawn lurk in our reality.
So fuck EGM. A goddamn 4.5 for AC. Are you high? -50.
-50? Man did you even play EGM?
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Anybody have a link to this 4.5 so I can read it? I get the rag, I just don't remember reading that review. Also if we keep posting the way we are just typing "4.5" into google search will turn up with the first several pages being AC results.
Anybody have a link to this 4.5 so I can read it? I get the rag, I just don't remember reading that review. Also if we keep posting the way we are just typing "4.5" into google search will turn up with the first several pages being AC results.
It appears that the infamous EGM AC review is only on print. The 1UP review for AC is different (done by Michael Donahoe and scored a B-). I suppose someone could type it out manually here, if they have the old issue.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
"Crispin: I'll agree that Creed comes with amazing components. The greatest-of-ease rooftop-roaming acrobatics are exhilarating; put the team who came up with that mechanic in charge of a parkour simulator. Sword combat - which grows in offensive and defensive finesse throughout the game - is as much fun to watch as it is to play. Drinks all around for the gang that handled that one, as well as for the guys behind the sand-swept Middle Ages decor and M. Night Shyamalanian plotjinks.
If only all that good stuff had a happy home here, but the rest of Creed is no good. These guys already described the deja vu-inducing mission structure. What makes it all worse is the way the game piles on annoyances the longer you play. A clone army of in-your-face beggars and street-brawling lunatics hound you, for instance, throwing off your stealthy style and forcing you to retry failed missions (and rewatch unskippable mission briefings) until you finally get them right. It all pseudo-ends with a badly handled sequel tease, bu count me out if the next Creed is more of this repetitive crap."
I think his comments are fair, and perfectly in line with a 4.5 score. I enjoyed the game, but I know it's certainly not very well-made.
Also, YOU DARE STEAL IN MY PRESENCE?! THAT WILL COST YOU YOUR LIFE!
Woah, that's it? That's the entire length of his review? I don't read EGM but it looks like it's just a blurb along with the other two reviewers.
Personally, I don't find any fault with it. I think he makes it very clear what he does and does not like. Ultimately, I think that's far more important than the mere number associated with it. As I've said in the past, way too many gamers (and especially, ahem, fanboys) get worked up over them. People are allowed to have different opinions of games, even if they're different than yours, and even if they're paid to be critical.
I do think it's amusing that some gamers have probably used more words describing how much they hate the review and think it's wrong, than the actual review itself.
This is obviously part of the Patriots plans to control our behaviour through manipulation of facts. THey made EGM print the wrong photo by making them think it was the right photo.
I still that that is the right photo, only that the Patriots fooled us into thinking that it was the wrong photo by giving it to IGN saying that it was the wrong photo so EGM could publish it thinking that it was the RIGHT photo.
Seriously, this shit right here is why I hate Hideo.
Thats the Patriot's doing too, sorry.
Also uh, on the topic of EGM, I don't read the magazine anymore, I just found it to be a pretty generic review machine. Yes, EGM is like the journalistic version of HAL.
This is obviously part of the Patriots plans to control our behaviour through manipulation of facts. THey made EGM print the wrong photo by making them think it was the right photo.
I still that that is the right photo, only that the Patriots fooled us into thinking that it was the wrong photo by giving it to IGN saying that it was the wrong photo so EGM could publish it thinking that it was the RIGHT photo.
Seriously, this shit right here is why I hate Hideo.
Thats the Patriot's doing too, sorry.
Also uh, on the topic of EGM, I don't read the magazine anymore, I just found it to be a pretty generic review machine. Yes, EGM is like the journalistic version of HAL.
"Give Portal Game of the Year, EGM"
"I'm sorry Gamer, I can't do that."
This is obviously part of the Patriots plans to control our behaviour through manipulation of facts. THey made EGM print the wrong photo by making them think it was the right photo.
I still that that is the right photo, only that the Patriots fooled us into thinking that it was the wrong photo by giving it to IGN saying that it was the wrong photo so EGM could publish it thinking that it was the RIGHT photo.
Seriously, this shit right here is why I hate Hideo.
Thats the Patriot's doing too, sorry.
Also uh, on the topic of EGM, I don't read the magazine anymore, I just found it to be a pretty generic review machine. Yes, EGM is like the journalistic version of HAL.
"Give Portal Game of the Year, EGM"
"I'm sorry Gamer, I can't do that."
Back on topic to the picture, the real issue is that if they didn't bother to check the source of the image, they definitely did not bother to get permission to print it in the first place. I don't know about the rest of you, but not even checking the copyright of an image before publicly printing it seems like a pretty major problem.
Okay then, care to share why you didn't think it was a game?
Dunno about him, but the fact that the most gameplay I got out of the few hours I played it was a 15 minute horse ride through the country side. Kinda pissed me off that a man on a horse galloping through the country side was a clear cut sign that I was a terrorist.
But then I was just stopped every fifteen seconds by some guy who wanted to tell me what the guy two houses over just told me.
And anything with a god damn unskippable tutorial as long as AC is probably gonna lose my interest just as quickly.
There was barely anything interesting in the cities.
This is my problem with Shadow of the Colossus. Beautiful game. Tons of places to explore. But pretty much nothing to find.
If anything, though, I imagine Assassin's Creed 2 will probably kick a ton of ass. They got the basics down, they know where they screwed up, so they can spend time fixing that.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
Yup, and thankfully, the universe aligned properly and that fat fuck was fired.
Anybody have a link to this 4.5 so I can read it? I get the rag, I just don't remember reading that review. Also if we keep posting the way we are just typing "4.5" into google search will turn up with the first several pages being AC results.
It appears that the infamous EGM AC review is only on print. The 1UP review for AC is different (done by Michael Donahoe and scored a B-). I suppose someone could type it out manually here, if they have the old issue.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
Anybody have a link to this 4.5 so I can read it? I get the rag, I just don't remember reading that review. Also if we keep posting the way we are just typing "4.5" into google search will turn up with the first several pages being AC results.
It appears that the infamous EGM AC review is only on print. The 1UP review for AC is different (done by Michael Donahoe and scored a B-). I suppose someone could type it out manually here, if they have the old issue.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
what's so bad about 8.8?
Nothing! However, legions of Nintendo fanboys cried foul that Gerstmann (who wrote the review for Twilight Princess on GameStop at the time) gave the game that score when many other sites were scoring it a 10, or 5/5, or 100%, etc. "How dare he! That score is WRONG!"
Nevermind the fact that reviews are subjective and that fanboys really should care all that much about how a game scores. Blah blah blah.
Okay then, care to share why you didn't think it was a game?
Dunno about him, but the fact that the most gameplay I got out of the few hours I played it was a 15 minute horse ride through the country side. Kinda pissed me off that a man on a horse galloping through the country side was a clear cut sign that I was a terrorist.
But then I was just stopped every fifteen seconds by some guy who wanted to tell me what the guy two houses over just told me.
And anything with a god damn unskippable tutorial as long as AC is probably gonna lose my interest just as quickly.
There was barely anything interesting in the cities.
This is my problem with Shadow of the Colossus. Beautiful game. Tons of places to explore. But pretty much nothing to find.
If anything, though, I imagine Assassin's Creed 2 will probably kick a ton of ass. They got the basics down, they know where they screwed up, so they can spend time fixing that.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
Yup, and thankfully, the universe aligned properly and that fat fuck was fired.
You forgot italics. All sarcasm must be said in italics otherwise we would look on your post and dismiss you as some retard or something. I'll let it slide this one time...
Anybody have a link to this 4.5 so I can read it? I get the rag, I just don't remember reading that review. Also if we keep posting the way we are just typing "4.5" into google search will turn up with the first several pages being AC results.
It appears that the infamous EGM AC review is only on print. The 1UP review for AC is different (done by Michael Donahoe and scored a B-). I suppose someone could type it out manually here, if they have the old issue.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top? (Surprisingly, another game is listed at top, but the game I and most people are thinking about is second on the list)
what's so bad about 8.8?
Offtopic, but I think 8.8 is more than a generous score for the game. Maybe the Gamecube version is better, but nothing really clicked for me for TP like literally every other Zelda game I've ever played.
Anyway, ontopic, EGM pisses me off because of their so thinly veiled it may as well be shouting "Lookit mah boobies!" disdain for the Wii, and, hell, the 360's even been picking up some shit from them lately too. Almost everything they have to say about a game, no matter how good, amounts to '...totally awesome...for a wii game.' It can never be, "This is totally awesome!" Hell, from the latest issue they have an entire article that's supposedly about the future of Nintendo's online but is just an excuse to shit all over their (admittedly poor, imho) online strategy. I'd have to dig it up, but there was an issue where I sat with a ballpoint pen and underscored everything negative they said about a system or game for a system other than the PS3. It was quite scored. This was the one where they had a bunch of stuff about the future of the PS3 and such, how awesome it was going to be.
Not that I'm a screaming die-hard Nintendo fanboy, hell, ask UncleSporky, I've voiced my overall dismay over the state of the Wii (mostly just the online bits and shovelware stuff, I could get into it but won't) to him more times than I can count, much to his annoyance, I'm sure. But god, if you're a magazine that's covering news and reviews, etc. for every system, at least be objective about it. It's the kind of shit you expect from Sony and Microsoft's rags, but more often than not, if I happen to pick up and read their magazine, it's more objective about Nintendo's stuff than EGM.
Listen to I think the latest 1up yours. Shawn Elliot (former GFW editor now handling the PC side of 1up.com) totally calls them out on their stupid Wii bashing.
I think he's gotten into his stride and is officially the new Luke Smith on that show. A mediator between the two almost ridiculous levels of fanboyism.
Some might say they put it on to generate talk about it, for hits. I find it annoying and unprofessional.
The only one there who I remotely respect is Shane, because at least he doesnt try and disguise his allegiance under some kind of veiled critique. He likes Japanese games, and Sony has a lot of them. You know where you stand.
Anyway, ontopic, EGM pisses me off because of their so thinly veiled it may as well be shouting "Lookit mah boobies!" disdain for the Wii, and, hell, the 360's even been picking up some shit from them lately too. Almost everything they have to say about a game, no matter how good, amounts to '...totally awesome...for a wii game.' It can never be, "This is totally awesome!" Hell, from the latest issue they have an entire article that's supposedly about the future of Nintendo's online but is just an excuse to shit all over their (admittedly poor, imho) online strategy. I'd have to dig it up, but there was an issue where I sat with a ballpoint pen and underscored everything negative they said about a system or game for a system other than the PS3. It was quite scored. This was the one where they had a bunch of stuff about the future of the PS3 and such, how awesome it was going to be.
Not that I'm a screaming die-hard Nintendo fanboy, hell, ask UncleSporky, I've voiced my overall dismay over the state of the Wii (mostly just the online bits and shovelware stuff, I could get into it but won't) to him more times than I can count, much to his annoyance, I'm sure. But god, if you're a magazine that's covering news and reviews, etc. for every system, at least be objective about it. It's the kind of shit you expect from Sony and Microsoft's rags, but more often than not, if I happen to pick up and read their magazine, it's more objective about Nintendo's stuff than EGM.
blah.
Funny enough, I feel much the same way. That said, I'm obviously biased because of where I work, so I mostly ignored it. But it has seemed to me that there's been a bit of a pro-Sony rah-rah going on recently.
Obviously this has not always been the case. They did, after all, run the infamous cover story with a tomato splattered all over a PS3. But things have turned a complete 180 it seems, as you can see in that recent pro-PS3 cover story. Perhaps it's just the editors trying to "even things up" a bit? It also doesn't help that Bryan Intihar (who was "strangely" ga-ga over the PS3 before he left) then went on to join Insomniac Studios (maker of various PS3 exclusives, including Resistance). I'm sure Sony fanboys will complain that EGM was very much pro-360 around the time Luke Smith went over to Bungie.
Personally, this is one of the many reasons why I don't hold EGM in high esteem. And the fiasco mentioned in the OP certainly doesn't help. On the other hand, the GFW guys are surprisingly good at being objective. They pull no punches when companies deserve it, even trashing the Games for Windows program that they're branded on (and often for admittedly good measure). But they're also willing to praise companies when they do get things right. None of it seems "fake" at all, where I can't really say the same for the EGM crew ...
The sad truth is the gaming community, as a whole, doesnt want fairness and balance.
It wants 'MGS4 10/10 best game you will ever play'
It wants 'Wii games suck and waggle is a pathetic fad'
People want these hyper extremes, EGM delivers them. We here are in no way an accurate representation of the mindset of the vast majority of the gaming community. They want hyperbole, fanboy hate and drama.
8.8 for Twilight Princess was fair and balanced, and both his video and text reviews outlines his views, backed them up and justified his opinion well.
Of course if you think anyone viewed either you clearly dont know the attitude of gamers.
Even GFW themselves did one issue without scores and even their readership was in uproar.
The sad truth is the gaming community, as a whole, doesnt want fairness and balance.
It wants 'MGS4 10/10 best game you will ever play'
It wants 'Wii games suck and waggle is a pathetic fad'
People want these hyper extremes, EGM delivers them. We here are in no way an accurate representation of the mindset of the vast majority of the gaming community. They want hyperbole, fanboy hate and drama.
8.8 for Twilight Princess was fair and balanced, and both his video and text reviews outlines his views, backed them up and justified his opinion well.
Of course if you think anyone viewed either you clearly dont know the attitude of gamers.
Even GFW themselves did one issue without scores and even their readership was in uproar.
The only one there who I remotely respect is Shane, because at least he doesnt try and disguise his allegiance under some kind of veiled critique. He likes Japanese games, and Sony has a lot of them. You know where you stand.
The problem is that he seems like one of their top anti-wii people, yet he's almost always one of the reviewers for their nintendo reviews, and frequently, the lead review.
Wait, a guy who likes Japanese games likes the PS3 and PSP the most? The Wii and DS have had many more Japanese games than either of those two consoles so far. Right now, the PS3 doesn't have that many Japanese games.
I'm not generally a fan of EGM, but if they are forbidden to talk about certain things (other than story spoilers) like length of cut scenes - which may or may not occupy a considerable chunk of overall game time - then that is a factor that will influence my purchase.
If EGM was allowed to say "Cut scenes equate to 50% of the time you will play but the game is so fucking fantastic you won't care!" Then I can accept that, and run out and buy it.
But if they are NOT allowed to discuss it (and I can think of no other reason than... it might negatively influence the reviewer or the reader) then Konami can fuck off, I won't buy it.
Do people even read magazines anymore. I mean, I haven't read a gaming magazine since the death of Nintendo AUS mag or whatever it was. And even that was pretty shit from memory.
The sad truth is the gaming community, as a whole, doesnt want fairness and balance.
It wants 'MGS4 10/10 best game you will ever play'
It wants 'Wii games suck and waggle is a pathetic fad'
People want these hyper extremes, EGM delivers them. We here are in no way an accurate representation of the mindset of the vast majority of the gaming community. They want hyperbole, fanboy hate and drama.
8.8 for Twilight Princess was fair and balanced, and both his video and text reviews outlines his views, backed them up and justified his opinion well.
Of course if you think anyone viewed either you clearly dont know the attitude of gamers.
Even GFW themselves did one issue without scores and even their readership was in uproar.
I pretty much agree with all of this.
Same here. I vote Scarab as the next President as VideoGameArcadia. You have my vote!
Do people even read magazines anymore. I mean, I haven't read a gaming magazine since the death of Nintendo AUS mag or whatever it was. And even that was pretty shit from memory.
I haven't. It's primarily gaming websites and podcasts for me.
That said, I do feel a bit guilty about the GFW magazine closing down. I signed up for one of those free subscriptions on a whim, but never got around to reading it. It wasn't until after they closed shop that I picked up their last issue and read it at work between test runs (automation is so zetta slow). Lo and behold, it's pretty damn good. Maybe it's just me but it's not your typical "here's the press released recycled!" or "let me describe the back of the box to you" type of mag. It makes me wonder if some game mags, like EDGE, are actually worth subscribing and bringing to work.
The whole video game review system is corrupt. Fan journalists have to suck up to the companies or else the spiggot will run dry. This is doublely troubling for magazines who have to worry about lead times and deadlines. Reviewing preview copies, only playing a game for an hour or less, having your Madden guy review Madden, all sorts of corners are cut.
Of course the enthusiasts won't have any of this no numbers, review of an off the shelf copy. They're spoiled as well.
EGM is hardly alone in this, but it is true that they know who their target market is and will cater to it.
Probably been said a million times, but this forum is still my main source for opinions on games. Of course I read review sites, video articles and the odd EGM, but there's nothing like the opinion of people who have spent their own money to play a game.
Kotaku had this article today about the NDA for MGS4,
"Payton says the NDA covered: Install times, length of cutscenes (the ending in particular), number of environments, opening "movie", product placement and a half dozen story-specific items."
Can't talk about product placement is a huge red light for me.
Kotaku had this article today about the NDA for MGS4,
"Payton says the NDA covered: Install times, length of cutscenes (the ending in particular), number of environments, opening "movie", product placement and a half dozen story-specific items."
Can't talk about product placement is a huge red light for me.
Kojima wanted to keep the ingame iPod as much a secret as possible. Even through they showed it off to the press and they reported on it. And the Magazines are playboy I THINK.
Kotaku had this article today about the NDA for MGS4,
"Payton says the NDA covered: Install times, length of cutscenes (the ending in particular), number of environments, opening "movie", product placement and a half dozen story-specific items."
Can't talk about product placement is a huge red light for me.
Why? It's because they wanted to announce it themselves... Which they've already done.
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What happened to the EGM bashing? EGM sucks from last I remember but I like Gameinformer.
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So much potential, wasted, ended up making that game far worse than it if was just a mediocre game without potential from the start. And for anyone who says I didn't play it enough. Fuck you, I did all the missions and beat the game. By the end I wanted to murder everyone one I've ever known and loved to save them from the horrors of this plane of existence; if such a tragedy as Assassin's Creed can exist in this world, I don't want to know what other hellspawn lurk in our reality.
So fuck EGM. A goddamn 4.5 for AC. Are you high? -50.
-50? Man did you even play EGM?
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I figured using play made it more fitting for the situation.
It appears that the infamous EGM AC review is only on print. The 1UP review for AC is different (done by Michael Donahoe and scored a B-). I suppose someone could type it out manually here, if they have the old issue.
Speaking of Google and review scores, anyone remember the 8.8 fiasco? If you search for"8.8 review score" into Google, what do you think you'll see near the top?
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"Crispin: I'll agree that Creed comes with amazing components. The greatest-of-ease rooftop-roaming acrobatics are exhilarating; put the team who came up with that mechanic in charge of a parkour simulator. Sword combat - which grows in offensive and defensive finesse throughout the game - is as much fun to watch as it is to play. Drinks all around for the gang that handled that one, as well as for the guys behind the sand-swept Middle Ages decor and M. Night Shyamalanian plotjinks.
If only all that good stuff had a happy home here, but the rest of Creed is no good. These guys already described the deja vu-inducing mission structure. What makes it all worse is the way the game piles on annoyances the longer you play. A clone army of in-your-face beggars and street-brawling lunatics hound you, for instance, throwing off your stealthy style and forcing you to retry failed missions (and rewatch unskippable mission briefings) until you finally get them right. It all pseudo-ends with a badly handled sequel tease, bu count me out if the next Creed is more of this repetitive crap."
I think his comments are fair, and perfectly in line with a 4.5 score. I enjoyed the game, but I know it's certainly not very well-made.
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Personally, I don't find any fault with it. I think he makes it very clear what he does and does not like. Ultimately, I think that's far more important than the mere number associated with it. As I've said in the past, way too many gamers (and especially, ahem, fanboys) get worked up over them. People are allowed to have different opinions of games, even if they're different than yours, and even if they're paid to be critical.
I do think it's amusing that some gamers have probably used more words describing how much they hate the review and think it's wrong, than the actual review itself.
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Thats the Patriot's doing too, sorry.
Also uh, on the topic of EGM, I don't read the magazine anymore, I just found it to be a pretty generic review machine. Yes, EGM is like the journalistic version of HAL.
"Give Portal Game of the Year, EGM"
"I'm sorry Gamer, I can't do that."
Bingo!
Dunno about him, but the fact that the most gameplay I got out of the few hours I played it was a 15 minute horse ride through the country side. Kinda pissed me off that a man on a horse galloping through the country side was a clear cut sign that I was a terrorist.
But then I was just stopped every fifteen seconds by some guy who wanted to tell me what the guy two houses over just told me.
And anything with a god damn unskippable tutorial as long as AC is probably gonna lose my interest just as quickly.
This is my problem with Shadow of the Colossus. Beautiful game. Tons of places to explore. But pretty much nothing to find.
If anything, though, I imagine Assassin's Creed 2 will probably kick a ton of ass. They got the basics down, they know where they screwed up, so they can spend time fixing that.
Yup, and thankfully, the universe aligned properly and that fat fuck was fired.
what's so bad about 8.8?
Nothing! However, legions of Nintendo fanboys cried foul that Gerstmann (who wrote the review for Twilight Princess on GameStop at the time) gave the game that score when many other sites were scoring it a 10, or 5/5, or 100%, etc. "How dare he! That score is WRONG!"
Nevermind the fact that reviews are subjective and that fanboys really should care all that much about how a game scores. Blah blah blah.
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You forgot italics. All sarcasm must be said in italics otherwise we would look on your post and dismiss you as some retard or something. I'll let it slide this one time...
Offtopic, but I think 8.8 is more than a generous score for the game. Maybe the Gamecube version is better, but nothing really clicked for me for TP like literally every other Zelda game I've ever played.
Anyway, ontopic, EGM pisses me off because of their so thinly veiled it may as well be shouting "Lookit mah boobies!" disdain for the Wii, and, hell, the 360's even been picking up some shit from them lately too. Almost everything they have to say about a game, no matter how good, amounts to '...totally awesome...for a wii game.' It can never be, "This is totally awesome!" Hell, from the latest issue they have an entire article that's supposedly about the future of Nintendo's online but is just an excuse to shit all over their (admittedly poor, imho) online strategy. I'd have to dig it up, but there was an issue where I sat with a ballpoint pen and underscored everything negative they said about a system or game for a system other than the PS3. It was quite scored. This was the one where they had a bunch of stuff about the future of the PS3 and such, how awesome it was going to be.
Not that I'm a screaming die-hard Nintendo fanboy, hell, ask UncleSporky, I've voiced my overall dismay over the state of the Wii (mostly just the online bits and shovelware stuff, I could get into it but won't) to him more times than I can count, much to his annoyance, I'm sure. But god, if you're a magazine that's covering news and reviews, etc. for every system, at least be objective about it. It's the kind of shit you expect from Sony and Microsoft's rags, but more often than not, if I happen to pick up and read their magazine, it's more objective about Nintendo's stuff than EGM.
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I think he's gotten into his stride and is officially the new Luke Smith on that show. A mediator between the two almost ridiculous levels of fanboyism.
Some might say they put it on to generate talk about it, for hits. I find it annoying and unprofessional.
The only one there who I remotely respect is Shane, because at least he doesnt try and disguise his allegiance under some kind of veiled critique. He likes Japanese games, and Sony has a lot of them. You know where you stand.
Funny enough, I feel much the same way. That said, I'm obviously biased because of where I work, so I mostly ignored it. But it has seemed to me that there's been a bit of a pro-Sony rah-rah going on recently.
Obviously this has not always been the case. They did, after all, run the infamous cover story with a tomato splattered all over a PS3. But things have turned a complete 180 it seems, as you can see in that recent pro-PS3 cover story. Perhaps it's just the editors trying to "even things up" a bit? It also doesn't help that Bryan Intihar (who was "strangely" ga-ga over the PS3 before he left) then went on to join Insomniac Studios (maker of various PS3 exclusives, including Resistance). I'm sure Sony fanboys will complain that EGM was very much pro-360 around the time Luke Smith went over to Bungie.
Personally, this is one of the many reasons why I don't hold EGM in high esteem. And the fiasco mentioned in the OP certainly doesn't help. On the other hand, the GFW guys are surprisingly good at being objective. They pull no punches when companies deserve it, even trashing the Games for Windows program that they're branded on (and often for admittedly good measure). But they're also willing to praise companies when they do get things right. None of it seems "fake" at all, where I can't really say the same for the EGM crew ...
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It wants 'MGS4 10/10 best game you will ever play'
It wants 'Wii games suck and waggle is a pathetic fad'
People want these hyper extremes, EGM delivers them. We here are in no way an accurate representation of the mindset of the vast majority of the gaming community. They want hyperbole, fanboy hate and drama.
8.8 for Twilight Princess was fair and balanced, and both his video and text reviews outlines his views, backed them up and justified his opinion well.
Of course if you think anyone viewed either you clearly dont know the attitude of gamers.
Even GFW themselves did one issue without scores and even their readership was in uproar.
I pretty much agree with all of this.
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The problem is that he seems like one of their top anti-wii people, yet he's almost always one of the reviewers for their nintendo reviews, and frequently, the lead review.
I think he was referring mostly to the PS2 era though.
If EGM was allowed to say "Cut scenes equate to 50% of the time you will play but the game is so fucking fantastic you won't care!" Then I can accept that, and run out and buy it.
But if they are NOT allowed to discuss it (and I can think of no other reason than... it might negatively influence the reviewer or the reader) then Konami can fuck off, I won't buy it.
Same here. I vote Scarab as the next President as VideoGameArcadia. You have my vote!
I haven't. It's primarily gaming websites and podcasts for me.
That said, I do feel a bit guilty about the GFW magazine closing down. I signed up for one of those free subscriptions on a whim, but never got around to reading it. It wasn't until after they closed shop that I picked up their last issue and read it at work between test runs (automation is so zetta slow). Lo and behold, it's pretty damn good. Maybe it's just me but it's not your typical "here's the press released recycled!" or "let me describe the back of the box to you" type of mag. It makes me wonder if some game mags, like EDGE, are actually worth subscribing and bringing to work.
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Of course the enthusiasts won't have any of this no numbers, review of an off the shelf copy. They're spoiled as well.
EGM is hardly alone in this, but it is true that they know who their target market is and will cater to it.
"Payton says the NDA covered: Install times, length of cutscenes (the ending in particular), number of environments, opening "movie", product placement and a half dozen story-specific items."
Can't talk about product placement is a huge red light for me.
Kojima wanted to keep the ingame iPod as much a secret as possible. Even through they showed it off to the press and they reported on it. And the Magazines are playboy I THINK.
I think they just want to keep it a surprise.
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There is a brand name motorcycle in one scene. It really depends on how well done they are, which the reviews should tell us.
Why? It's because they wanted to announce it themselves... Which they've already done.