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Summer of Final Fantasy: FFTA2 (6/26), FFIVDS (7/22) - NSF56k

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  • JerikTelorianJerikTelorian Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    BigDes wrote: »
    Matthew wrote: »
    I'm definitely getting FFTA2 (hopefully on the 27th at th elocal gamestop, FF and Deoxys on the same day!). Though frankly, I don;t know if i'll ever play FFT, as it's more assholeish fans have turned me off to the game.
    Don't let assholish fans turn you off the game, it seriously is one of the best srpgs in existence. It's wonderful.

    Agreed. It's really a great, great game. I had the benefit of two apartmentmates in College who loved the game more than anything, and from them I learned all kinda of great combos, patterns, builds, and moves.

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    EtherealWalrus wrote: »
    Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.

    I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
  • FreakleFreakle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Can't wait to play both of these. As long as they keep adding content to FF4 I will keep on buying it. The only thing I am worried about is what the 3D environments are going to do to my memory of the dungeons. Plus, how are they going to do the "invisible" walls? It sucks that we can't cheat anymore by turning the contrast waaaaay up so we can see where they are :b

    Other than that, I wish FF4 was coming out sooner so I would have something to keep me busy on my 14 hour flight to japan in a week.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The real thing that they changed in regards to fucking with your memory in FF4 are some of the bosses.

    Use the same strat you used 15+ years ago and you're boned.

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Xenogears of Bore wrote: »
    The real thing that they changed in regards to fucking with your memory in FF4 are some of the bosses.

    Use the same strat you used 15+ years ago and you're boned.

    That makes me sad. That fucking Monster Wall ALWAYS kicked my ass.

    In other news: I was completely oblivious to the fact that FFTA was a different story from FFT for PS. For some reason I thought it was a remake of the original.

    So now I have another game to buy and add to the backlog. Hooray!

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  • FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I like FFTA2's art style, but I wish they'd stop slacking on the story. :|

    Maybe if it price drops.


    I'd be nuts to wait on FFIV, though.

    And, obligatory:

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    I forget where I found that at.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.

    But, but, but.....

    "Inside the Giant" is good, but my favorite track from FFIV is using the Final Fantasy theme over the (badly written) prologue, which I was happy they brought back in FFXII.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    VI has better music you damn heathens.

    IV has some really great tracks, and both bet up on the merely good FF V soundtrack.

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  • TyrantCowTyrantCow Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I've never played all the way through FFIV.

    And, while I've played quite a few SRPGs; I've never played a Final Fantasy Tactics, or Tactics Advanced game.

    Looking forward to both of these... however, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable $40 price tag...

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.

    But, but, but.....

    "Inside the Giant" is good, but my favorite track from FFIV is using the Final Fantasy theme over the (badly written) prologue, which I was happy they brought back in FFXII.

    They use that track (aptly named "Prologue") in every single FF game.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Actually, every game but FFII, IIRC. :)

    It appears after you get that bridge built in FFI, and usually in the end credits of the rest of the games except for IV and XII. (It could be in XI, but I've ever played that.)

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Did ninjas and assassins receive a nerf by any chance? Because, damn, they were good in FFTA.

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  • Radikal_DreamerRadikal_Dreamer Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm overly hesitant on FFTA2. I got burned badly with FFTA. I even bought a Game Boy Player in anticipation of that baby. I loved FFT so much, and thought it'd be more like it, but no... It still stings to this day. I only managed to play a few hours of it before throwing it away in disgust. Once in a while I try to play again, but I just can't get far at all.

    FFIV is so bought, though. I'm not sure when I'll get to play it, as I'm sure the second it reaches my apartment my girlfriend will be all over that like a fat kid on a sammich.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

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  • BugmanBugman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    fuuuuuck this game

    I'm going to spend so much time playing it. Far more than any game should

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  • BugmanBugman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ScrabbleDude wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

    I want them to make a new Chrono game just for the damn music.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bugman wrote: »
    ScrabbleDude wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

    I want them to make a new Chrono game just for the damn music.

    Yasunori Mitsuda really doesn't do good work like that any more, and that was all him.

    The composers who did Xenosaga II and III's scores put Mitsuda's for I to shame.

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  • BugmanBugman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ScrabbleDude wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

    I want them to make a new Chrono game just for the damn music.

    Yasunori Mitsuda really doesn't do good work like that any more, and that was all him.
    .

    Oh, seriously? What do you mean?

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bugman wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ScrabbleDude wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

    I want them to make a new Chrono game just for the damn music.

    Yasunori Mitsuda really doesn't do good work like that any more, and that was all him.
    .

    Oh, seriously? What do you mean?

    I don't know if he's lost his touch or what, but nothing he's done since has come close to how amazing Chrono Cross's music was.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    He's saving his awesome for the next Chrono Game.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I don't know if any game has come out since Chrono Cross has matched its music. I'm not the biggest fan of the story, characters, or game mechanics, but I'll play that game over and over just to listen to the music.

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  • taliosfalcontaliosfalcon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Radikal_Dreamer wrote: »
    I'm overly hesitant on FFTA2. I got burned badly with FFTA. I even bought a Game Boy Player in anticipation of that baby. I loved FFT so much, and thought it'd be more like it, but no... It still stings to this day. I only managed to play a few hours of it before throwing it away in disgust. Once in a while I try to play again, but I just can't get far at all.

    FFIV is so bought, though. I'm not sure when I'll get to play it, as I'm sure the second it reaches my apartment my girlfriend will be all over that like a fat kid on a sammich.

    I can sympathize, it hurts to love FFT so much, yet hate FFTA with a burning passion D:

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'm the opposite. I beat the hell out of FFTA, but I just could not get into FFT. I think I like it because it's simpler.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ScrabbleDude wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    FFIV, the best music on a 16-bit console. Ever. There is no arguing this.


    No, FFVI did not have better music.
    Chrono Trigger takes second place.
    Yes, Super Castlevania IV comes close, but...
    It's still a distant fourth when you include Secret of Mana in the list.

    The music when you enter the Giant of Babel is the greatest "Holy fuck, I am SO PUMPED FOR THIS" music in the history of FF.
    I love the music in FF IV, but I think that Super Castlevania had better music. Oh, and Chrono Trigger had better music. And FF VI had better music. I think Chrono Trigger has the best music on a 16 bit console. Funny, cause I think Chrono Cross had the best music from the next generation of consoles too.

    I want them to make a new Chrono game just for the damn music.

    Yasunori Mitsuda really doesn't do good work like that any more, and that was all him.
    .

    Oh, seriously? What do you mean?

    I don't know if he's lost his touch or what, but nothing he's done since has come close to how amazing Chrono Cross's music was.

    What has he worked on though? He hasn't been the main composer on any game in quite a long time...and I liked his Xenosaga score, personally.

    I'd love to see him do some stuff akin to Kirite in a game.

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  • NiqleNiqle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Chen wrote: »
    Did ninjas and assassins receive a nerf by any chance? Because, damn, they were good in FFTA.

    I hope so, since I beat the game with underleveled (But nicely geared I guess) characters without fancy classes like the summoner (couldn't be bothered) and my uberninja main character pretty easily. :(

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    captaink wrote: »
    I'm the opposite. I beat the hell out of FFTA, but I just could not get into FFT. I think I like it because it's simpler.
    Yeah. I never got into FFT either. I think because of the plot. It tried to be all deep and dark and...wasn't. "Oh no, the church is evil" is not original. Or good.

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Blackjack wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    I'm the opposite. I beat the hell out of FFTA, but I just could not get into FFT. I think I like it because it's simpler.
    Yeah. I never got into FFT either. I think because of the plot. It tried to be all deep and dark and...wasn't. "Oh no, the church is evil" is not original. Or good.

    The godawful translation didn't help.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

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  • BugmanBugman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

    Are they really that hard to find? I think I have a couple still in my basement

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Vincent Grayson wrote: »
    What has he worked on though? He hasn't been the main composer on any game in quite a long time...and I liked his Xenosaga score, personally.

    I'd love to see him do some stuff akin to Kirite in a game.

    Deep Labyrinth, and I think a few other DS games. I haven't heard his work from those, but Xenosaga's score felt lifeless.

    Half of the environments have no music whatsoever, and they use the same battle music for everything.

    The title track of Xenosaga II is more epic than anything from Xenosaga I.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I can't wait to pick up FFTA2. The further it gets from the original FFT, the happier I'll be.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Chen wrote: »
    Did ninjas and assassins receive a nerf by any chance? Because, damn, they were good in FFTA.

    Assassins were overpowered. Ninjas? They sucked.

    The best combo for Humans was an Excalibur2/Excalibur dual-wielding Paladin with a full range of Blue Magic. There's really nothing it can't kill. Also, make sure the Paladin gets most of his levels as the Blue Mage so that his Holy Strike thing (I forget the real name) does 999 damage because of the awesome Blue Mage stat growth.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Yah, Blue Mage is awesomely versatile. I was just commenting that the Double Sword ability the ninja has is pretty much a prerequisite for any human non-mage. It does sound a little tame when assassins can kill anything from a distance though.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

    Are they really that hard to find? I think I have a couple still in my basement

    I went through two from one vendor on Amazon and neither of them worked correctly with my Slim PS2.

    If yours do, I'd be happy to relieve you of one...

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  • BugmanBugman Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

    Are they really that hard to find? I think I have a couple still in my basement

    I went through two from one vendor on Amazon and neither of them worked correctly with my Slim PS2.

    If yours do, I'd be happy to relieve you of one...

    Do they have to be a specific type to work on Slims?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

    Are they really that hard to find? I think I have a couple still in my basement

    I went through two from one vendor on Amazon and neither of them worked correctly with my Slim PS2.

    If yours do, I'd be happy to relieve you of one...

    Do they have to be a specific type to work on Slims?
    I don't think so. I still have the first three memory cards (one of which is a THIRD PARTY MULTI-SLOT CARD that has NEVER not worked. I am the luckiest mofo ever) I owned with my playstation and they all work fine.

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I am so fucking pumped. Juicing up my DS now.

    EDIT: SHIT! I was off by a month in remembering when FF4 comes out :(

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    captaink wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    I'm the opposite. I beat the hell out of FFTA, but I just could not get into FFT. I think I like it because it's simpler.
    Yeah. I never got into FFT either. I think because of the plot. It tried to be all deep and dark and...wasn't. "Oh no, the church is evil" is not original. Or good.

    The godawful translation didn't help.

    To be fair, the new amazing translation on the PSP version helps a lot.

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  • ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... ... and hard.Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    Bugman wrote: »
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    I'd love to get into FFT, so I bought it new off Amazon.

    Problem is, it's a bitch to find working PSone memory cards anywhere. Anyone know a decent place?

    Are they really that hard to find? I think I have a couple still in my basement

    I went through two from one vendor on Amazon and neither of them worked correctly with my Slim PS2.

    If yours do, I'd be happy to relieve you of one...

    Do they have to be a specific type to work on Slims?

    No, but the slims are reportedly very finicky. Both the ones I tried were Sony cards and both wouldn't let me save or the games would say the save was corrupted if you tried to load it. I returned both of them, so now I'm stuck.

    Also, I noticed FFTA2's release date is actually the 24th.

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  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    DVG wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    captaink wrote: »
    I'm the opposite. I beat the hell out of FFTA, but I just could not get into FFT. I think I like it because it's simpler.
    Yeah. I never got into FFT either. I think because of the plot. It tried to be all deep and dark and...wasn't. "Oh no, the church is evil" is not original. Or good.

    The godawful translation didn't help.

    To be fair, the new amazing translation on the PSP version helps a lot.


    Man, I understood it as everyone completely misunderstood the myths. And shit just got out of hand.

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