Xbox 360 RPG Premiere 2008 - Star Ocean 4 is a 360 game

RainbowDespair

So apparently Microsoft is holding a big press conference next Tuesday in Japan where they'll be showing off a bunch of RPGs for the 360 and making some announcements.

http://blogs.ign.com/Erik-IGN/2008/06/06/92208/
http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8762178&publicUserId=4549175

Any guesses on what'll get announced? It's almost inevitable that we'll find out more about Cry On (Mistwalker's next RPG which we haven't heard many details about yet) and the sequels to Lost Odyssey & Blue Dragon along with the 3rd party stuff that's already been announced like Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery, and Last Remnant.

Of course, what I'd really like to have happen is for the Microsoft representative to walk onto stage, say, "Final. Fantasy. 13." and then walk off stage, but that's probably not going to happen.

EDIT: Here's a blog entry of the conference: http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/880/880407p1.html
Star Ocean 4 announced for the 360, release dates on some games, and some multiplatform games being announced as timed 360 exclusives.

DarkWarrior

Most likely they will finally get around to announcing Resident Evil 5 is coming to the platform.


They need to tell us when Alan Wake is coming out because if nothing else I want to finally found out what the hell the story and monsters are all about.

Radikal_Dreamer

I will be looking forward to this. I hope it's a Lost Odyssey 2 announcement. That's pretty much a guaranteed buy from me. The first 3 discs were so great. The story petered out a bit at the end, but I'd say it was good enough to warrant a sequel purchase.

Haven't played BD yet, though.

PunkBoy

Ooh. I'm interested. To date I haven't played an RPG on my 360, so hopefully that will change.

On a slightly different note...Lost Odyssey. Worth getting?

Lunker

RainbowDespair wrote: »

Of course, what I'd really like to have happen is for the Microsoft representative to walk onto stage, say, "Final. Fantasy. 13." and then walk off stage, but that's probably not going to happen.

I'd love to see this but I wouldn't be able to celebrate with you guys, as the Internet would likely collapse.

I'm curious to see new details on Tales and Infinite Undiscovery. I haven't been keeping up much on these titles, as I only typically follow stuff when it gets closer to release, but I've always had a soft spot for the Tales series.

Radikal_Dreamer

PunkBoy wrote: »

Ooh. I'm interested. To date I haven't played an RPG on my 360, so hopefully that will change.

On a slightly different note...Lost Odyssey. Worth getting?

I'd say LO is definitely worth playing. It's a great RPG by most standards. I liked the battle system, the environments were great, and the characters were pretty likeable. For a while, too, the story is pretty top notch. As I said, though, I felt the story dropped the ball a bit near the end, but, hey, you get 3 discs worth of great and then 1 of mediocre.

RainbowDespair

PunkBoy wrote: »

On a slightly different note...Lost Odyssey. Worth getting?

If you liked the older Final Fantasy games, then yes. It has a very definite FF4/6 vibe to it. To be honest, I started to get tired of it by the 4th disk, but up until that point I really enjoyed it. Also Blue Dragon is highly recommended if you like FF5 (it has a job system that's similar) and the Dragon Quest games.

urahonky

Blue Dragon >>>>>>>>>>> Lost Odyssey in my opinion. The voice acting is the only thing you need to get over :P

corin7

urahonky wrote: »

Blue Dragon >>>>>>>>>>> Lost Odyssey in my opinion. The voice acting is the only thing you need to get over :P

I liked them both about the same and have finished neither... cause I am lazy... and hellgate fuck that game is consuming my time. Sequels to either one would be day 1 purchase from me probably.

Klyka

Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are both very memorable games and share the same spot in my "top rpg" list.

urahonky

Though I may be biased because I ran into a bug in the last dungeon (fucking temple of enlightenment) where my char fell off the world, and then appeared somewhere else. Unfortunately it fucked everything up in the dungeon because the dungeon doesn't reset itself when you leave... So when I saved the game I couldn't finish the place up because one platform was raised that wouldn't come back down.

Ghey.

Schide

Yay, even more RPGs for the only damn new console that is bothering with them. Hopefully there will be some good ones. Possibly with monsters and leveling.

cj iwakura

Shin Megami Tensei 4 would be nice.

Though I'm pretty sure Sony/the PS3'll get dibs on that.

randombattle

It should be an FF7 remake. That would shock the world.

Children

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Semi related question: Are there any RPGs out for it now that don't follow the FF random battles with menus formula? Oblivion I have, and Eternal Sonata looks amazing(I love the star ocean style battles), but the over the top cuteness has me reluctant to buy it.

urahonky

Play the demo for Eternal Sonata. Honestly, the problem I had with ES was that the battles got really dull after a while. At about 9 hours into the game I had already ran into many palette swapped monsters. That got really annoying. Plus, mashing buttons when you get into a fight just isn't fun for me.

HenryWard

Children, I'm sure you've heard of it, but get Mass Effect. Realtime battles in an all-around fantastic game. It's one of the best things I've played on the console so far. If you like old school stuff Jade Empire is still something that makes my heart go pitter patter to think of... it's for the original xbox but it's still probably one of the greatest RPGs of all time, and also has realtime combat.

chasm

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

urahonky

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

0 if you have the 40GB.

OVER NINE THOUSAND if you have the BC models.

cj iwakura

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

Literally one, I think: Folklore.

Disgaea 3'll make two in a few months.

Children

I did play the demo, and due to the lack of ability to buy healing items, the battle system seemed about the right difficulty for me. And anything that reminds me of star ocean 2 I love. Are you saying that it just gets easier as time goes on? It seemed like there are mechanics (like blocking) to keep the battle system engaging, my main deterrent is how shallow and chibi the story and charicters were.

Comaprison wise, are the battles much easier than tales of symphonia?

Couscous

urahonky wrote: »

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

0 if you have the 40GB.

OVER NINE THOUSAND if you have the BC models.

The PSX had a ton of RPGs. Granted, all of five have probably aged well.

Couscous

cj iwakura wrote: »

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

Literally one, I think: Folklore.

Disgaea 3'll make two in a few months.

There is Oblivion.

JCRooks

The pessimistic/realistic side of me thinks they'll just be showing off already announced titles (Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, etc.).

The optimistic side thinks they might announce sequels like a Lost Odyssey 2, or Blue Dragon 2. Also, maybe a port of something along the lines of Disgaea 3, SMT3.

The crrrrrrrrraaazzy side of me thinks something major, like some of the FFXIII spin-offs, or Kingdom Hearts, or something. Yeah, insane.

urahonky

Children wrote: »

I did play the demo, and due to the lack of ability to buy healing items, the battle system seemed about the right difficulty for me. And anything that reminds me of star ocean 2 I love. Are you saying that it just gets easier as time goes on? It seemed like there are mechanics (like blocking) to keep the battle system engaging, my main deterrent is how shallow and chibi the story and charicters were.

Comaprison wise, are the battles much easier than tales of symphonia?

I'm a huge SO2 an TOS fan, but this one didn't hold my attention. I will say that the game is absolutely beautiful.

I would say easier. There were a lot of parts in TOS where if you messed up your timing you could royally fuck yourself. In ES it's basically hit the attack button a bunch to build up your chains, and then unleash your special attack.

Darlan

randombattle wrote: »

It should be an FF7 remake. That would shock the world.

For what it's worth, there was a PC version of FF7, but I'm definitely not holding my breath here.

Couscous

JCRooks wrote: »

The pessimistic/realistic side of me thinks they'll just be showing off already announced titles (Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, etc.).

The optimistic side thinks they might announce sequels like a Lost Odyssey 2, or Blue Dragon 2. Also, maybe a port of something along the lines of Disgaea 3, SMT3.

The crrrrrrrrraaazzy side of me thinks something major, like some of the FFXIII spin-offs, or Kingdom Hearts, or something. Yeah, insane.

The insane and retarded part of me thinks a port of FFXIII or FFVII.

Children

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

I don't really have any interest in the PS3 outiside of metal gear, so I wasn't really comapring 360 to it, just comapring 360 to what I want.

And I have no idea how I forgot mass effect, It was the reason I bought the 360.

LewieP

Infinite Undiscovery will be on show I bet.

chasm

titmouse wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

0 if you have the 40GB.

OVER NINE THOUSAND if you have the BC models.

The PSX had a ton of RPGs. Granted, all of five have probably aged well.

Valkyrie Profile, Xenogears, FFVII (this is all discounting graphics, of course)...those are the only ones that come to mind. I was more making a comment on the ultra-tired "omgthe360hasnothingbutshooters" meme.

Schide

titmouse wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

chasm wrote: »

Children wrote: »

This sounds pretty cool, glad to hear that Microsoft is focusing on putting something other than shooters on the 360.

Uh...right now, the 360 has far more variety than the PS3. How many RPGs of any type are there on the PS3 in the US?

0 if you have the 40GB.

OVER NINE THOUSAND if you have the BC models.

The PSX had a ton of RPGs. Granted, all of five have probably aged well.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve...and that's just from looking to my right at my game shelf thing.

cj iwakura

If games from the 8 and 16 bit eras can still be playable(and they are), I don't see any reason why PSX ones shouldn't be.

LewieP

A lot of games from 8/16bit era are very very unplayable now, even ones that reviewed well at the time.

Children

For some reason, one of the very few games I can't go back and play because of the graphics is FF7. The models are just.... ew.

Edit: and chrono trigger/FF6 are totally fine... this forum needs a *shrug* emote.

Couscous

LewieP wrote: »

A lot of games from 8/16bit era are very very unplayable now, even ones that reviewed well at the time.

I really can't stand any of the RPGs from the 8-bit NES era. I haven't played many 16-bit RPGs, but I imagine many of them suffer from the fact that plots that used to be interesting are now really cliched.

randombattle

LewieP wrote: »

A lot of games from 8/16bit era are very very unplayable now, even ones that reviewed well at the time.

Lies. Go play like Seiken Densetsu 3 or Chrono Trigger. Still as awesome as ever.

Children

I really can't stand any game not called mario from the 8 bit NES era.

JCRooks

IMHO, 2D/sprite-based RPG games from the 8-bit and 16-bit era are a lot more replayable than the first 3D RPGs. I feel the exact same way about FF7. It is, ironically, the only FF game I haven't played, because it was many years later and I just couldn't stomach the 3D models. Sure, they were great at the time, but not anymore.

On the other hand, 2D/sprite games are still timeless. They don't really make many 2D/sprite games nowadays, so it doesn't feel like I'm "missing" much. Now gameplay is a different issue ...

cj iwakura

randombattle wrote: »

LewieP wrote: »

A lot of games from 8/16bit era are very very unplayable now, even ones that reviewed well at the time.

Lies. Go play like Seiken Densetsu 3 or Chrono Trigger. Still as awesome as ever.

Same with the Ninja Gaidens, Gradius(pick almost any shmup, really), Comix Zone, the Sonics, the Marios even, etc.

As for RPGs, well, there's the Phantasy Stars.

And the Sega CD Lunars.

LoveIsUnity

LewieP wrote: »

A lot of games from 8/16bit era are very very unplayable now, even ones that reviewed well at the time.

I play my Sega Genesis almost every day, and the games that reviewed well back then are still good now. Of course, don't take this as me saying that every game that reviewed well 15 years ago is still good, but a lot of them are still great.

RPGs in particular seem to have aged really well.

Willeth

Mass Effect isn't out in Japan yet. That's all this will be - a release date.