It would be nice if the games error messages were a bit more detailed. "Upload failed" when I try to upload a video doesn't tell me anything at all. Besides the video not uploading, I guess.
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"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
So shadows look a bit odd but otherwise it's been great fun once I got over my initial nerdrage. But can anyone think of a reason why the "-norestrictions" command isn't working for me? According to what I've read adding that parameter should let you set the graphics to anything you want, recommended settings be damned. But I can't get it to work. Has anyone got it to work and if so did you have to do anything special?
Also am I the only one that gets a fatal error every time I try to play whilst logged in to Rockstar Social thing? I have to skip the logon or the game will CTD on startup. Just fantastic for a program that you are forced to install and run.
The -norestrictions tag also doesn't work for me. It's pretty fucking stupid that Rockstar thinks that I'm too stupid to manage my own settings. I'm pretty sure my machine is capable of doing medium textures with more draw distance than 8.
Same here. Has -norestrictions worked for anyone yet? Is there another workaround? I would like to at least try the game at my monitor's native resolution.
So shadows look a bit odd but otherwise it's been great fun once I got over my initial nerdrage. But can anyone think of a reason why the "-norestrictions" command isn't working for me? According to what I've read adding that parameter should let you set the graphics to anything you want, recommended settings be damned. But I can't get it to work. Has anyone got it to work and if so did you have to do anything special?
Also am I the only one that gets a fatal error every time I try to play whilst logged in to Rockstar Social thing? I have to skip the logon or the game will CTD on startup. Just fantastic for a program that you are forced to install and run.
The -norestrictions tag also doesn't work for me. It's pretty fucking stupid that Rockstar thinks that I'm too stupid to manage my own settings. I'm pretty sure my machine is capable of doing medium textures with more draw distance than 8.
Same here. Has -norestrictions worked for anyone yet? Is there another workaround? I would like to at least try the game at my monitor's native resolution.
It worked for me, but a lot of people are having the same problem you guys are. I thought I read somewhere that it isn't working for the steam version.
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Also the game is now freezing my entire computer. It has happened twice now. Rig doesn't appear to be overheating or anything, although it is really really hot in here.
Try to roll it once or twice at a time, but keep going full speed, and try to do as many jumps with one or two rolls as possible in a short time. As long as you do 5 rolls total in around 2 or 3 minutes, you'll get the achievement. I'm pretty sure it's important that you don't stop or slow down, though.
I don't know. I'm back to "fuck this" for the game again. I wasted an hour between jumping the car in various locations for 0 rolls and the most I got on the swing was 3, when that shit didn't just throw me out. The shit spins and twists and rolls... what the hell is considered a "roll" to the game?
edit: consistency.
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You have to be signed into a Live profile to save your game, just like Fallout 3 and Gears of War, but you CAN create an offline profile.
Which is an incredibly stupid way of doing things. I lost my savegames for Gears of War more times than I can count because of that freaking system. Why you need to be signed into Live when the savegames don't actually exist over Live makes no sense.
I mean, on the console version does it care whether you're signed into Live or not before giving you access to your savegames?
Try to roll it once or twice at a time, but keep going full speed, and try to do as many jumps with one or two rolls as possible in a short time. As long as you do 5 rolls total in around 2 or 3 minutes, you'll get the achievement. I'm pretty sure it's important that you don't stop or slow down, though.
I don't know. I'm back to "fuck this" for the game again. I wasted an hour between jumping the car in various locations for 0 rolls and the most I got on the swing was 3, when that shit didn't just throw me out. The shit spins and twists and rolls... what the hell is considered a "roll" to the game?
edit: consistency.
I had a heap of trouble getting that achievment, but the glitch lets you get it in a couple of minutes. Which is only fair, I think, when you've done more than 5 rolls in one jump and it just hasn't counted it.
Does GTA4 GFW LIVE use the same set of Achievements as the 360 version? As in, does it track as the "same game" ala Fallout 3, or two different games, ala Gears of War 1?
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I took the revenge path first and Pegorino emerges as a villain for just the last mission, which makes it kinda anti-climactic. There are moments when the plot really rises above the mediocre but the ending underwhelmed me. I'm about to go for the deal path now. What are your, yes, your, thoughts on the IV's ending?
Try to roll it once or twice at a time, but keep going full speed, and try to do as many jumps with one or two rolls as possible in a short time. As long as you do 5 rolls total in around 2 or 3 minutes, you'll get the achievement. I'm pretty sure it's important that you don't stop or slow down, though.
I don't know. I'm back to "fuck this" for the game again. I wasted an hour between jumping the car in various locations for 0 rolls and the most I got on the swing was 3, when that shit didn't just throw me out. The shit spins and twists and rolls... what the hell is considered a "roll" to the game?
edit: consistency.
I had a heap of trouble getting that achievment, but the glitch lets you get it in a couple of minutes. Which is only fair, I think, when you've done more than 5 rolls in one jump and it just hasn't counted it.
yea, I don't know... I'll give it a few more goes tomorrow. It's just stupid that it doesn't work consistently. (IE: Launching my car flailing through the air halfway across an island using the swing only registered as 3 flips
though it could be how I'm hitting the ramp. my first attempts I'd always do two wheels across the side, full speed. Then I switched to going full speed and hand brake turning into the ramps to launch (which also results in flipping on the curb at times) I figure at this point I'm just going to go straight at the ramps and see what happens
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I'm think I'm used to the graphics being less than amazing. I'm very impressed by the animations and the voice acting so I'm having a good time with it. I enjoy the more realistic direction of the game and Nico is pretty cool.
The Jamaican guy is hilarious because I can't understand a thing he's saying.
Whoa, apparently STEAM is offering refunds for those who found the game unplayable.
Damnit Valve, stop being awesome.
For some reason, I can sort of see why the release was delayed for December 2nd. Though I would've been pleased if they would have delayed it longer just to fix these issues.
I'm not ever gonna buy this, but Im curious how my rig would fare.
9800GTX+ in SLI
2GB DDR3
Core 2 Duo e8400
Thanks!
I'm doing okay (not as well as I should be but playably) on a Phenom 9550, 4GB DDR2 (though i'm on 32bit so it's only picking up 3) and a 9800GT. You should be okay.
I'm not ever gonna buy this, but Im curious how my rig would fare.
9800GTX+ in SLI
2GB DDR3
Core 2 Duo e8400
Thanks!
I'm doing okay (not as well as I should be but playably) on a Phenom 9550, 4GB DDR2 (though i'm on 32bit so it's only picking up 3) and a 9800GT. You should be okay.
My friend who has a super computer couldn't run the game at all, then could at good settings, then couldn't again. I think magic has more to do with how the game runs rather than the system.
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"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
I'm not ever gonna buy this, but Im curious how my rig would fare.
9800GTX+ in SLI
2GB DDR3
Core 2 Duo e8400
Thanks!
I'm doing okay (not as well as I should be but playably) on a Phenom 9550, 4GB DDR2 (though i'm on 32bit so it's only picking up 3) and a 9800GT. You should be okay.
My friend who has a super computer couldn't run the game at all, then could at good settings, then couldn't again. I think magic has more to do with how the game runs rather than the system.
Magic is essentially what keeps your PC running.
Unfortunately most PCs use D&D 1st Edition rules which means the magic isn't as effectual as it could be. Or some other dorky analogy.
I'm not ever gonna buy this, but Im curious how my rig would fare.
9800GTX+ in SLI
2GB DDR3
Core 2 Duo e8400
Thanks!
I'm doing okay (not as well as I should be but playably) on a Phenom 9550, 4GB DDR2 (though i'm on 32bit so it's only picking up 3) and a 9800GT. You should be okay.
My friend who has a super computer couldn't run the game at all, then could at good settings, then couldn't again. I think magic has more to do with how the game runs rather than the system.
Magic is essentially what keeps your PC running.
Unfortunately most PCs use D&D 1st Edition rules which means the magic isn't as effectual as it could be. Or some other dorky analogy.
Depends on the OS.
Windows 95 was when MS switched to D&D rules, starting with D&D 1st Ed.
Windows 98 moved to 2nd Ed.
XP moved to 3rd, and then 3.5 with the last Service Pack
The most recent Service Pack for Vista upgraded the ruleset to 4th Ed., marking a dramatic change in MS's speed of rules adoption.
Linux uses GURPS
Mac OS's can use D&D rules now, though they tend to call it "Interactive Storytelling" so it doesn't sound as nerdy.
Whoa, apparently STEAM is offering refunds for those who found the game unplayable.
Damnit Valve, stop being awesome.
For some reason, I can sort of see why the release was delayed for December 2nd. Though I would've been pleased if they would have delayed it longer just to fix these issues.
where? I wnat one
e: ok, went through steam support. now to wait. apparently people who act kinda aggressive about Rockstar being completely misleading with the system requirements are getting refunds.
I don't know what you guys are complaining about.
It works great for me!
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(yeah, I launch GTA4 from Steam, get a UAC confirmation box, something seems to install, and then I get that error message, every time. RGSC is Rockstar Games Social Club, right? X__X )
Sorry for replying to my own post, but I decided to hit Debug and see if Visual Studio can tell me anything. Turns out, it can!
System.IO.FileNotFoundException was unhandled
Message: Could not load file or assembly 'PresentationFramework, Version=3.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=31bf3856ad364e35' or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
That doesn't make sense to me though -- I do indeed have .NET Framework 3.5 installed. I even ran the installer again, it said it was already installed, and I picked 'repair'.
I was going to make a Steam support forum post with this info, but my account apparently needs activation.
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What're you dudes talking about? I'm not signed into GFW and my savegames are working.
What happens when you login to GFW Live, are your savegames still available to you? And if you save, and then the next time play without logging in again, is that savegame still there?
The reason I ask is that Gears had some... issues with its savegames and connectivity with GFW Live. This often caused it to lose all its savegames altogether. Or at least pretend they weren't there.
I've never logged into or even seen GFW. Unless that's that "press home" thing at the start. In which case I never logged into it in GTAIV or Gears and my savegames were always fine.
AWESOME the norestriction issue seems to be resolved.
Firstly, open up the social club thing and log in. Seems theres been an update and error MMA 10 no longer occurs, so now it is possible to play the game without the Skip Logon trick.
With your desktop shortcut, add the parameter -norestriction. NOT -norestrictionS. NO S.
Open social club, log in, THEN run GTA IV from the shortcut you just altered, and you should be good to go.
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Everybody in the game is hopelessly addicted to lap dancers and burgers. 250Gs last about a week
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Becuase, while the story is good for a GTA game, it's not perfect. Why does Niko still do taxi missions, assassination missions, and steal cars after the deal, the bank heist, and the whole... ending debacle? The story ties the missions together, but it's pretty clearly secondary to the gameplay. WOuld you expect Niko to just say "I'm going clean" after the heist, and that's it, game over?
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Becuase, while the story is good for a GTA game, it's not perfect. Why does Niko still do taxi missions, assassination missions, and steal cars after the deal, the bank heist, and the whole... ending debacle? The story ties the missions together, but it's pretty clearly secondary to the gameplay. WOuld you expect Niko to just say "I'm going clean" after the heist, and that's it, game over?
No. But that's because I thought 250 grand was apparently not enough. When Roman said all their dreams would come true if I made the deal, I was expecting the money to be more than a million dollars, at least. So when I realized it was just 250 Gs, I went "WTF? I already made this much."
Oh, another reason I didn't expect Niko to walk away after the heist was that making money wasn't his ultimate goal. He was there to find Darko.
Honestly, it's just a plothole I noticed. That's all.
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Becuase, while the story is good for a GTA game, it's not perfect. Why does Niko still do taxi missions, assassination missions, and steal cars after the deal, the bank heist, and the whole... ending debacle? The story ties the missions together, but it's pretty clearly secondary to the gameplay. WOuld you expect Niko to just say "I'm going clean" after the heist, and that's it, game over?
No. But that's because I thought 250 grand was apparently not enough. When Roman said all their dreams would come true if I made the deal, I was expecting the money to be more than a million dollars, at least. So when I realized it was just 250 Gs, I went "WTF? I already made this much."
Oh, another reason I didn't expect Niko to walk away after the heist was that making money wasn't his ultimate goal. He was there to find Darko.
Honestly, it's just a plothole I noticed. That's all.
Fair enough. I think that the characters and story are pretty good (not perfect, but definitely above average), it's just that they don't fit in well with the game. Except on very rare occasions, gameplay doesn't affect the story, which I think harms an open-world game like this.
I haven't decided if I want to ask for a refund or not. I have enjoyed the game although it looks a bit underwhelming I know when I do an upgrade it will be fine.
If the MMA10 error really is fixed I probably won't bother.
yeah, niko's motivation really shouln't be money when for different players money can be so variable- some might have spent it all and some might be hoarding it. i get a little tired of niko being fussy over money when it's more about darko, isn't it
Why didn't Three Leaf Clover's bank robbery have any impact? Despite scoring 250Gs, Packie was living with his Ma and Derrick was sleeping on a bench. And at the end of the game, Roman made such a fuss over the money from the deal, saying it would fulfill all of their dreams but completely ignored the cash from the bank job.
Becuase, while the story is good for a GTA game, it's not perfect. Why does Niko still do taxi missions, assassination missions, and steal cars after the deal, the bank heist, and the whole... ending debacle? The story ties the missions together, but it's pretty clearly secondary to the gameplay. WOuld you expect Niko to just say "I'm going clean" after the heist, and that's it, game over?
No. But that's because I thought 250 grand was apparently not enough. When Roman said all their dreams would come true if I made the deal, I was expecting the money to be more than a million dollars, at least. So when I realized it was just 250 Gs, I went "WTF? I already made this much."
Oh, another reason I didn't expect Niko to walk away after the heist was that making money wasn't his ultimate goal. He was there to find Darko.
Honestly, it's just a plothole I noticed. That's all.
Fair enough. I think that the characters and story are pretty good (not perfect, but definitely above average), it's just that they don't fit in well with the game. Except on very rare occasions, gameplay doesn't affect the story, which I think harms an open-world game like this.
Yeah, I know. Have you played Mafia? That did the whole epic-crime-saga thing way better since it was so much more focussed. Right from the time the first previews came out, Rockstar had been emphasizing the fact that this was going to be one of the best crime dramas of the year, right on par with the best of Hollywood. And you can tell that that is what they're going for, but the very idea is at conflict with the nature of the game. I mean, if you're trying to tell a good story, you can't have as much filler as the GTA series demands.
EDIT(new thoughts!): Take Oblivion. The main quest keeps trying to tell you that the world is in danger and that you need to hurry and get to X spot NOW. But you could blow off saving the world indefinitely and nothing would happen. Except for Kvatch and the random Oblivion gates which just sit there waiting for you to close them, no where else in the game world is there any sign of actual danger. Open-world games should have storylines like Fallout 3's (which I haven't played yet). "Lost your dad? There's a whole world out there. Go find him."
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"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
Same here. Has -norestrictions worked for anyone yet? Is there another workaround? I would like to at least try the game at my monitor's native resolution.
It worked for me, but a lot of people are having the same problem you guys are. I thought I read somewhere that it isn't working for the steam version.
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
Also the game is now freezing my entire computer. It has happened twice now. Rig doesn't appear to be overheating or anything, although it is really really hot in here.
I don't know. I'm back to "fuck this" for the game again. I wasted an hour between jumping the car in various locations for 0 rolls and the most I got on the swing was 3, when that shit didn't just throw me out. The shit spins and twists and rolls... what the hell is considered a "roll" to the game?
edit: consistency.
Which is an incredibly stupid way of doing things. I lost my savegames for Gears of War more times than I can count because of that freaking system. Why you need to be signed into Live when the savegames don't actually exist over Live makes no sense.
I mean, on the console version does it care whether you're signed into Live or not before giving you access to your savegames?
I had a heap of trouble getting that achievment, but the glitch lets you get it in a couple of minutes. Which is only fair, I think, when you've done more than 5 rolls in one jump and it just hasn't counted it.
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yea, I don't know... I'll give it a few more goes tomorrow. It's just stupid that it doesn't work consistently. (IE: Launching my car flailing through the air halfway across an island using the swing only registered as 3 flips
though it could be how I'm hitting the ramp. my first attempts I'd always do two wheels across the side, full speed. Then I switched to going full speed and hand brake turning into the ramps to launch (which also results in flipping on the curb at times) I figure at this point I'm just going to go straight at the ramps and see what happens
The Jamaican guy is hilarious because I can't understand a thing he's saying.
Damnit Valve, stop being awesome.
For some reason, I can sort of see why the release was delayed for December 2nd. Though I would've been pleased if they would have delayed it longer just to fix these issues.
9800GTX+ in SLI
2GB DDR3
Core 2 Duo e8400
Thanks!
I'm doing okay (not as well as I should be but playably) on a Phenom 9550, 4GB DDR2 (though i'm on 32bit so it's only picking up 3) and a 9800GT. You should be okay.
My friend who has a super computer couldn't run the game at all, then could at good settings, then couldn't again. I think magic has more to do with how the game runs rather than the system.
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
Magic is essentially what keeps your PC running.
Unfortunately most PCs use D&D 1st Edition rules which means the magic isn't as effectual as it could be. Or some other dorky analogy.
Depends on the OS.
Windows 95 was when MS switched to D&D rules, starting with D&D 1st Ed.
Windows 98 moved to 2nd Ed.
XP moved to 3rd, and then 3.5 with the last Service Pack
The most recent Service Pack for Vista upgraded the ruleset to 4th Ed., marking a dramatic change in MS's speed of rules adoption.
Linux uses GURPS
Mac OS's can use D&D rules now, though they tend to call it "Interactive Storytelling" so it doesn't sound as nerdy.
Just got bumped into Bohan now.
Niko seemed like a huge dick when first arriving in the apartment, though. "WHY ARE YOU HAPPY? YOU CAN'T BE HAPPY! STOP BEING AN OPTIMIST!"
Little Jacob and the Badman are hilarious.
e: ok, went through steam support. now to wait. apparently people who act kinda aggressive about Rockstar being completely misleading with the system requirements are getting refunds.
That doesn't make sense to me though -- I do indeed have .NET Framework 3.5 installed. I even ran the installer again, it said it was already installed, and I picked 'repair'.
I was going to make a Steam support forum post with this info, but my account apparently needs activation.
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What happens when you login to GFW Live, are your savegames still available to you? And if you save, and then the next time play without logging in again, is that savegame still there?
The reason I ask is that Gears had some... issues with its savegames and connectivity with GFW Live. This often caused it to lose all its savegames altogether. Or at least pretend they weren't there.
Firstly, open up the social club thing and log in. Seems theres been an update and error MMA 10 no longer occurs, so now it is possible to play the game without the Skip Logon trick.
With your desktop shortcut, add the parameter -norestriction. NOT -norestrictionS. NO S.
Open social club, log in, THEN run GTA IV from the shortcut you just altered, and you should be good to go.
Compared to the population of the entire world, everybody who bought GTAIV for the PC probably is a small number of people.
Oh, another reason I didn't expect Niko to walk away after the heist was that making money wasn't his ultimate goal. He was there to find Darko.
Honestly, it's just a plothole I noticed. That's all.
If the MMA10 error really is fixed I probably won't bother.
A PC Game without a modding community will never last long.
Yeah, I know. Have you played Mafia? That did the whole epic-crime-saga thing way better since it was so much more focussed. Right from the time the first previews came out, Rockstar had been emphasizing the fact that this was going to be one of the best crime dramas of the year, right on par with the best of Hollywood. And you can tell that that is what they're going for, but the very idea is at conflict with the nature of the game. I mean, if you're trying to tell a good story, you can't have as much filler as the GTA series demands.
EDIT(new thoughts!): Take Oblivion. The main quest keeps trying to tell you that the world is in danger and that you need to hurry and get to X spot NOW. But you could blow off saving the world indefinitely and nothing would happen. Except for Kvatch and the random Oblivion gates which just sit there waiting for you to close them, no where else in the game world is there any sign of actual danger. Open-world games should have storylines like Fallout 3's (which I haven't played yet). "Lost your dad? There's a whole world out there. Go find him."
Eh. There's a launcher that checks for file integrity, but it should be circumventable.
Rockstar certainly isn't playing nicely like they were for GTA3 and GTAVC, though, that's for sure.
After the whole Hot Coffee debacle their relationship with the mod community has NOT been as amicable as it once was.