December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
This -has- to be a joke(As in they didn't pay that much. They....they couldn't have). And a challenge. It's impossible to make the GTA games and be that much of a douchebag.
This is what I choose to believe.
Also, not like I'm going to buy it on PC (my computer is crap-tastic), but I'm looking forward to videos of modded cops that aren't total dicks. I was doing vigilante missions, and heading off towards the next criminal on foot. I had my siren on. I was coming up this line of cars and they all dutifully pulled to the side.....except for the cops. So I clip the car, get a one star and begin cursing like crazy. Here I am, fighting crime and they're not only getting in my way, but trying to stop me from fighting crime?
December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
This -has- to be a joke(As in they didn't pay that much. They....they couldn't have). And a challenge. It's impossible to make the GTA games and be that much of a douchebag.
This is what I choose to believe.
Have you played the GTA games?
I've always thought the people who made them were douchebags
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
I don't know if they've ever acted proud of it. Most of the protection is SecuROM's job anyways.
December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
Rockstar Upper East December 2nd, 2008 | 18:24 You really can’t crack this game believe me or not. We have done everything to stop you from playing it for free”
I think the same thing was said about Bioshock, didn't take them long to crack that. Mass Effect got cracked -and- the cracks included bugfixes because the first patch to fix those issues took forever to come out.
There is a very good chance they wasted 200k, because SecuROM has been obliterated over and over again. They were probably better off keeping quiet. Also, you know, being proud of a badly handled port that people are already demanding refunds for, a few days after release. If the issues in Bully for PC had been a bit worse we would have heard about this back when that came out.
The Mass Effect crack had bugfixes? Are you sure those aren't just fixes for the bugs they put in to stop the pirates? The overheat thing I think.
December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
This -has- to be a joke(As in they didn't pay that much. They....they couldn't have). And a challenge. It's impossible to make the GTA games and be that much of a douchebag.
This is what I choose to believe.
Have you played the GTA games?
I've always thought the people who made them were douchebags
Well, I meant a different kind of douchebag. (Like, the kind you just laugh at instead of wanting to choke and smash their face in.)
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
I don't know if they've ever acted proud of it. Most of the protection is SecuROM's job anyways.
December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
Rockstar Upper East December 2nd, 2008 | 18:24 You really can’t crack this game believe me or not. We have done everything to stop you from playing it for free”
I think the same thing was said about Bioshock, didn't take them long to crack that. Mass Effect got cracked -and- the cracks included bugfixes because the first patch to fix those issues took forever to come out.
There is a very good chance they wasted 200k, because SecuROM has been obliterated over and over again. They were probably better off keeping quiet. Also, you know, being proud of a badly handled port that people are already demanding refunds for, a few days after release. If the issues in Bully for PC had been a bit worse we would have heard about this back when that came out.
That's what gets me. It takes a spectacularly bad release for that to happen, hell, I can't even think of an instance where this has happened to such an extent. That Valve is actively offering refunds as a distributor just floors me.
Part of me wouldn't be surprised if that figure is accurate. Another part of me finds it difficult to believe so many people with the brainpower required to code could be so stupid. I guess absolute douchbaggery blinds absolutely.
So I reformatted after installing a new CPU, since the old one was getting old and it seemed like a good time to do an overdue format anyway. All for better performance, right?
Reinstalled.
Now Games for Windows Live says my region isn't supported when it tries to download my profile. Ergo, I can't save.
So I reformatted after installing a new CPU, since the old one was getting old and it seemed like a good time to do an overdue format anyway. All for better performance, right?
Reinstalled.
Now Games for Windows Live says my region isn't supported when it tries to download my profile. Ergo, I can't save.
Fuck this game.
Lies! Paying customers do not mind extremely invasive, buggy piece of shit DRM that prevents them from playing an equally buggy game. At least that's what the developers always say.
Lies! Paying customers do not mind extremely invasive, buggy piece of shit DRM that prevents them from playing an equally buggy game. At least that's what the developers always say.
But this isn't even DRM! There's no reason at all for this! :x
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
While I think it's a funny thing to do, I don't get why they'd care about no dvd cracks. They're just a quality of life thing, does anyone seriously use them for piracy?
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
While I think it's a funny thing to do, I don't get why they'd care about no dvd cracks. They're just a quality of life thing, does anyone seriously use them for piracy?
If it wasn't for modern 'install check' DRM, I'd bet the answer would trend toward 'yes'.
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
While I think it's a funny thing to do, I don't get why they'd care about no dvd cracks. They're just a quality of life thing, does anyone seriously use them for piracy?
Best option: buy from Steam! And yeah I imagine tons of people use no DVD cracks for piracy. I mean why not? Install a friend's copy of the game, no DVD crack, bada bing. Free game.
Yeah, they basically added triggers in the game to do stuff like that if securom wasn't running and such. That's why it's not cracked properly yet. Good job, guys. Now make the game actually run for people who paid instead of being more proud of your copy protection than the actual port.
I don't know if they've ever acted proud of it. Most of the protection is SecuROM's job anyways.
December 2nd, 2008 | 18:09 Don’t bother to beat our protection, guys. Think we spent 200k for you to play our game for free? Think twice!
Rockstar Upper East December 2nd, 2008 | 18:24 You really can’t crack this game believe me or not. We have done everything to stop you from playing it for freeâ€
I think the same thing was said about Bioshock, didn't take them long to crack that. Mass Effect got cracked -and- the cracks included bugfixes because the first patch to fix those issues took forever to come out.
There is a very good chance they wasted 200k, because SecuROM has been obliterated over and over again. They were probably better off keeping quiet. Also, you know, being proud of a badly handled port that people are already demanding refunds for, a few days after release. If the issues in Bully for PC had been a bit worse we would have heard about this back when that came out.
The Mass Effect crack had bugfixes? Are you sure those aren't just fixes for the bugs they put in to stop the pirates? The overheat thing I think.
No the overheat thing was also in the retail as well. Now the buggy map people aren't quite sure, but the savegame system was purposely borked to thwart pirates.
R* is going to have every mo with an eye patch gunning for them. Their arrogance will inspire a herculean effort from the hacker community. Maybe they'll figure out why the game engine is dog slow while they're at it.
With the MAA10 error fixed I got it to run pretty good with no restrictions. It looks decent and has an OK framerate. It's a pretty fun game once you get it tweaked right. The textures can still pop in a little funny sometimes, but I'm dealing with it.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Edit - I myself have neither bought the game (was going to until I saw what was required just to play it and all the issues with just getting it to run properly) nor downloaded a pirated copy, but I've been watching the scene for news of it and yep, it's happened.
Rohan on
...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
0
MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited December 2008
Talking about the game itself.
I just found a fully kitted up Uranus.
It has like fancy lights on the front, a giant ass spoiler bigger n anything I've ever seen with a big ol pipe or something holding it up at the back, and that grillwork on the rear window.
And the funny things on the bonnet.
It's turning center mass is exactly in the middle of the vehicle. This thing is inherently unstable, with beautiful grip on the road. I don't need the handbrake.
I like it, I'm keeping it.
Oh and it growls like a baby beast. Grrrrrrrr.
Morninglord on
(PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
JohnDoe on
0
MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited December 2008
Anyone know where to find an assault rifle on the first island.
All I can remember is the mp5 in bohan.
Morninglord on
(PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
Making paying customers suffer with invasive DRM and inviting pirates to try and crack the game is really despicable behaviour. I mean, as a result of Rockstar's posturing, the pirates went out of their way to crack the game, and now all those who download it illegally will get to play the game free of all that DRM, while customers who have paid for the product will have to deal with all of that bs. Fighting piracy is good; hurting the legal customer is not!
Rohan on
...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
Making paying customers suffer with invasive DRM and inviting pirates to try and crack the game is really despicable behaviour. I mean, as a result of Rockstar's posturing, the pirates went out of their way to crack the game, and now all those who download it illegally will get to play the game free of all that DRM, while customers who have paid for the product will have to deal with all of that bs. Fighting piracy is good; hurting the legal customer is not!
No. If it was a basic cd-check without activations, pirates would crack it. If it required the blood of your first born child to play, pirates would still crack it. Thats what they like to do.
I think its a very useful thing to have those pirates cracking games. When inevitable problems with DRM crop up, I can get the crack and go on doing my thing. But lets not argue they're doing it as a moral stand against invasive DRM.
Some of them are taking a stand against DRM; many just enjoy when a developer / publisher / DRM provider throws down the gauntlet (like in this case) because it's basically a standing challenge.
And the crackers never lose. Their resources vastly outweigh those of any proponent of DRM, and I want to believe that the industry knows it. I think the current purpose of DRM is just to slow them down enough in the first few weeks or months that the game gets a chance to sell. They can lift the restrictions later once initial sales slow - the nature of return policies generally means early adopters are still holding their copy and you can finally deliver a semi-working product.
Just another reason to never purchase a PC game soon after release unless you are absolutely confident that it won't have significant issues.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
Making paying customers suffer with invasive DRM and inviting pirates to try and crack the game is really despicable behaviour. I mean, as a result of Rockstar's posturing, the pirates went out of their way to crack the game, and now all those who download it illegally will get to play the game free of all that DRM, while customers who have paid for the product will have to deal with all of that bs. Fighting piracy is good; hurting the legal customer is not!
I'd like to note that DRM isn't the problem in this case.
Edit: By that I mean the game running like poop, even though the system should run the game very well.
Neva on
SC2 Beta: Neva.ling
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
Making paying customers suffer with invasive DRM and inviting pirates to try and crack the game is really despicable behaviour. I mean, as a result of Rockstar's posturing, the pirates went out of their way to crack the game, and now all those who download it illegally will get to play the game free of all that DRM, while customers who have paid for the product will have to deal with all of that bs. Fighting piracy is good; hurting the legal customer is not!
No. If it was a basic cd-check without activations, pirates would crack it. If it required the blood of your first born child to play, pirates would still crack it. Thats what they like to do.
I think its a very useful thing to have those pirates cracking games. When inevitable problems with DRM crop up, I can get the crack and go on doing my thing. But lets not argue they're doing it as a moral stand against invasive DRM.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that Rockstar are being idiots. Yes, the game would have been cracked anyway. But outright gloating that the game can't be cracked is just asking for all the crackers over the Internet to start working on proving them wrong. Meanwhile, Rockstar is just hurting those who have paid for legal copies of the game. Who, in the end, is hurt more by this? The customers, who have to deal with invasive DRM measures on their legal copies of the game? The pirates, who must deal with a game riddled with game-breaking bugs for the time it'll take them to crack it? Or Rockstar, who proudly boasted about having spent $200,000 and several months developing the pc version and focussing so much on the anti-piracy features that they neglected the actual port itself?
Well, it's taken the pirates a mere two days to deliver a tiny 27kb file that breaks all of that investment. So who really has been hurt more?
Rohan on
...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
And the crackers never lose. Their resources vastly outweigh those of any proponent of DRM, and I want to believe that the industry knows it. I think the current purpose of DRM is just to slow them down enough in the first few weeks or months that the game gets a chance to sell.
I've seen this argument before and I really doubt its accurate. Cracks take, what? A week, maximum, to come out? They're arguing that a signifcant % of people who pirate games will not be able to wait the week and instead pay the full price for it? Because those pirate -> legit sales in the first week have to cover whole the cost of the DRM and the tech support for those people whose game is broken by the DRM, otherwise its not cost effective to put it in.
Well, it's taken the pirates a mere two days to deliver a tiny 27kb file that breaks all of that investment. So who really has been hurt more?
Don't get me wrong. I think its retarded that legit customers have a harder time getting their games working and have to jump through hoops, while a simple crack gives people who pirate it the best experience. Its why I go out of my way to support Stardock and Gog.com, and Steam, to a lesser extent. I know Steam has DRM, but the convenience of logging onto my account from any of my PCs to download/fire off any game I own is worth it.
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
And the crackers never lose. Their resources vastly outweigh those of any proponent of DRM, and I want to believe that the industry knows it. I think the current purpose of DRM is just to slow them down enough in the first few weeks or months that the game gets a chance to sell.
I've seen this argument before and I really doubt its accurate. Cracks take, what? A week, maximum, to come out? They're arguing that a signifcant % of people who pirate games will not be able to wait the week and instead pay the full price for it? Because those pirate -> legit sales in the first week have to cover whole the cost of the DRM and the tech support for those people whose game is broken by the DRM, otherwise its not cost effective to put it in.
I agree it's a bad policy given the actual turnaround on cracks...but honestly it's the only one that still remotely makes sense to me. The industry can't have its collective head that far up its own ass to believe that DRM is an actual solution to piracy. I can't believe that. There has to be an actual financial motive for this - I don't believe for a minute that any sane publisher says "Well, it's a losing fight but we have to include DRM just to show we don't condone it". DRM costs money too (probably quite a bit if you're licensing it from a separate company).
Whatever - I've mostly given up on PC gaming outside of old, mostly-functional titles and the occasional Valve / Steam release.
And the crackers never lose. Their resources vastly outweigh those of any proponent of DRM, and I want to believe that the industry knows it. I think the current purpose of DRM is just to slow them down enough in the first few weeks or months that the game gets a chance to sell.
I've seen this argument before and I really doubt its accurate. Cracks take, what? A week, maximum, to come out? They're arguing that a signifcant % of people who pirate games will not be able to wait the week and instead pay the full price for it? Because those pirate -> legit sales in the first week have to cover whole the cost of the DRM and the tech support for those people whose game is broken by the DRM, otherwise its not cost effective to put it in.
I agree it's a bad policy given the actual turnaround on cracks...but honestly it's the only one that still remotely makes sense to me. The industry can't have its collective head that far up its own ass to believe that DRM is an actual solution to piracy. I can't believe that. There has to be an actual financial motive for this - I don't believe for a minute that any sane publisher says "Well, it's a losing fight but we have to include DRM just to show we don't condone it". DRM costs money too (probably quite a bit if you're licensing it from a separate company).
Whatever - I've mostly given up on PC gaming outside of old, mostly-functional titles and the occasional Valve / Steam release.
I don't believe it's a question of "resources" on the crackers part either, the problem is far more base level. Fundamentally, there is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
At some stage, the player has to play the game, the game has to be decrypted and made functional in order to do so. Once that occurs, you've already lost, because this is information that the crackers have access to as well.
subedii on
0
MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited December 2008
Ah, I found a deagle on the first isle.
Huh.
I mean, if anyone cares.
Morninglord on
(PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
Aaaaand... it's been cracked. One 27kb file. $200,000 and several month's effort down the tubes, Rockstar, while your paying customers suffer. Two days, a 27kb file. That's what you get for goading the pirates. You tits.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
Exactly. These people eat Thunder/C++ and crap Lightning/Assembly. :P
Posts
This -has- to be a joke(As in they didn't pay that much. They....they couldn't have). And a challenge. It's impossible to make the GTA games and be that much of a douchebag.
This is what I choose to believe.
Also, not like I'm going to buy it on PC (my computer is crap-tastic), but I'm looking forward to videos of modded cops that aren't total dicks. I was doing vigilante missions, and heading off towards the next criminal on foot. I had my siren on. I was coming up this line of cars and they all dutifully pulled to the side.....except for the cops. So I clip the car, get a one star and begin cursing like crazy. Here I am, fighting crime and they're not only getting in my way, but trying to stop me from fighting crime?
Fuck that noise.
Edit: Man, I apparently love italics.
Have you played the GTA games?
I've always thought the people who made them were douchebags
PSN ID : DetectiveOlivaw | TWITTER | STEAM ID | NEVER FORGET
Well, I meant a different kind of douchebag. (Like, the kind you just laugh at instead of wanting to choke and smash their face in.)
But really, you're right.
That's what gets me. It takes a spectacularly bad release for that to happen, hell, I can't even think of an instance where this has happened to such an extent. That Valve is actively offering refunds as a distributor just floors me.
Reinstalled.
Now Games for Windows Live says my region isn't supported when it tries to download my profile. Ergo, I can't save.
Fuck this game.
Old PA forum lookalike style for the new forums | My ko-fi donation thing.
I've heard they have for Bully, non coincidentally another Rockstar Game.
Lies! Paying customers do not mind extremely invasive, buggy piece of shit DRM that prevents them from playing an equally buggy game. At least that's what the developers always say.
But this isn't even DRM! There's no reason at all for this! :x
Old PA forum lookalike style for the new forums | My ko-fi donation thing.
While I think it's a funny thing to do, I don't get why they'd care about no dvd cracks. They're just a quality of life thing, does anyone seriously use them for piracy?
If it wasn't for modern 'install check' DRM, I'd bet the answer would trend toward 'yes'.
Best option: buy from Steam! And yeah I imagine tons of people use no DVD cracks for piracy. I mean why not? Install a friend's copy of the game, no DVD crack, bada bing. Free game.
Argh
No the overheat thing was also in the retail as well. Now the buggy map people aren't quite sure, but the savegame system was purposely borked to thwart pirates.
Five hours of dicking around finally payed off, it seems.
Old PA forum lookalike style for the new forums | My ko-fi donation thing.
Edit - I myself have neither bought the game (was going to until I saw what was required just to play it and all the issues with just getting it to run properly) nor downloaded a pirated copy, but I've been watching the scene for news of it and yep, it's happened.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
I just found a fully kitted up Uranus.
It has like fancy lights on the front, a giant ass spoiler bigger n anything I've ever seen with a big ol pipe or something holding it up at the back, and that grillwork on the rear window.
And the funny things on the bonnet.
It's turning center mass is exactly in the middle of the vehicle. This thing is inherently unstable, with beautiful grip on the road. I don't need the handbrake.
I like it, I'm keeping it.
Oh and it growls like a baby beast. Grrrrrrrr.
Pirates are going to crack the game whether you goad them or not. Its what they do.
All I can remember is the mp5 in bohan.
Making paying customers suffer with invasive DRM and inviting pirates to try and crack the game is really despicable behaviour. I mean, as a result of Rockstar's posturing, the pirates went out of their way to crack the game, and now all those who download it illegally will get to play the game free of all that DRM, while customers who have paid for the product will have to deal with all of that bs. Fighting piracy is good; hurting the legal customer is not!
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
No. If it was a basic cd-check without activations, pirates would crack it. If it required the blood of your first born child to play, pirates would still crack it. Thats what they like to do.
I think its a very useful thing to have those pirates cracking games. When inevitable problems with DRM crop up, I can get the crack and go on doing my thing. But lets not argue they're doing it as a moral stand against invasive DRM.
And the crackers never lose. Their resources vastly outweigh those of any proponent of DRM, and I want to believe that the industry knows it. I think the current purpose of DRM is just to slow them down enough in the first few weeks or months that the game gets a chance to sell. They can lift the restrictions later once initial sales slow - the nature of return policies generally means early adopters are still holding their copy and you can finally deliver a semi-working product.
Just another reason to never purchase a PC game soon after release unless you are absolutely confident that it won't have significant issues.
I'd like to note that DRM isn't the problem in this case.
Edit: By that I mean the game running like poop, even though the system should run the game very well.
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that Rockstar are being idiots. Yes, the game would have been cracked anyway. But outright gloating that the game can't be cracked is just asking for all the crackers over the Internet to start working on proving them wrong. Meanwhile, Rockstar is just hurting those who have paid for legal copies of the game. Who, in the end, is hurt more by this? The customers, who have to deal with invasive DRM measures on their legal copies of the game? The pirates, who must deal with a game riddled with game-breaking bugs for the time it'll take them to crack it? Or Rockstar, who proudly boasted about having spent $200,000 and several months developing the pc version and focussing so much on the anti-piracy features that they neglected the actual port itself?
Well, it's taken the pirates a mere two days to deliver a tiny 27kb file that breaks all of that investment. So who really has been hurt more?
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
I've seen this argument before and I really doubt its accurate. Cracks take, what? A week, maximum, to come out? They're arguing that a signifcant % of people who pirate games will not be able to wait the week and instead pay the full price for it? Because those pirate -> legit sales in the first week have to cover whole the cost of the DRM and the tech support for those people whose game is broken by the DRM, otherwise its not cost effective to put it in.
Don't get me wrong. I think its retarded that legit customers have a harder time getting their games working and have to jump through hoops, while a simple crack gives people who pirate it the best experience. Its why I go out of my way to support Stardock and Gog.com, and Steam, to a lesser extent. I know Steam has DRM, but the convenience of logging onto my account from any of my PCs to download/fire off any game I own is worth it.
"Everyone who is capable of logical thought should be able to see why you shouldn't sell lifetime subscriptions to an MMO. Cell phone companies and drug dealers don't offer lifetime subscriptions either, guess why?" - Mugaaz
I agree it's a bad policy given the actual turnaround on cracks...but honestly it's the only one that still remotely makes sense to me. The industry can't have its collective head that far up its own ass to believe that DRM is an actual solution to piracy. I can't believe that. There has to be an actual financial motive for this - I don't believe for a minute that any sane publisher says "Well, it's a losing fight but we have to include DRM just to show we don't condone it". DRM costs money too (probably quite a bit if you're licensing it from a separate company).
Whatever - I've mostly given up on PC gaming outside of old, mostly-functional titles and the occasional Valve / Steam release.
I don't believe it's a question of "resources" on the crackers part either, the problem is far more base level. Fundamentally, there is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
At some stage, the player has to play the game, the game has to be decrypted and made functional in order to do so. Once that occurs, you've already lost, because this is information that the crackers have access to as well.
Huh.
I mean, if anyone cares.