I haven't liked any MGS game since the first one, so this comic makes me happy. I think the charm and novelty of the original MGS made up for it's flaws, every game since then we've been getting the flaws with little novelty, and NO CHARM whatsoever.
Eh, it's not a complaint like it offends or bothers me, and after having it put in the context of "Snake explains everything" it's even less of an issue. It's just that when listening to the podcasts and hearing how they work to whittle away all the excess and make the joke as funny, it seemed strange that they'd explain the joke with words rather than make it more visual. It really isn't an issue at all.
you got a lot better rewards for stealth than you did for getting hurt
I played that way and I felt it was better than being a dumbfuck the whole way through (avoiding fights is easier than winning them), but being a dumbfuck is made easier because they reward getting beat up.
you got a lot better rewards for stealth than you did for getting hurt
I played that way and I felt it was better than being a dumbfuck the whole way through (avoiding fights is easier than winning them), but being a dumbfuck is made easier because they reward getting beat up.
How do they reward getting beat up? Do you show all the girls your battle scars and get laid in some hidden mini-game?
you got a lot better rewards for stealth than you did for getting hurt
I played that way and I felt it was better than being a dumbfuck the whole way through (avoiding fights is easier than winning them), but being a dumbfuck is made easier because they reward getting beat up.
How do they reward getting beat up? Do you show all the girls your battle scars and get laid in some hidden mini-game?
When you get a wound (a serious injury, the type that shows up in the Cure menu), you see a little red bar appear in your health meter. Health will not regenerate over that bar, so it's like your max health is temporarily lowered. However, then the wound is healed, either naturally (just wait) or with the Cure menu, you'll hear the "ration" sound effect from previous MGS titles. At this time, your life bar is extended slightly. On Normal and Hard, you start with two blocks of life, on Extreme it's like one and a quarter blocks. If you keep getting wounded and then healing up, you can get up to four blocks. And medical supplies are ABUNDANT on all difficulty levels, even Extreme, so you can easily double your life on Normal and Hard, and triple it on Extreme.
The implication in Tycho's newpost is that he didn't like MGS3. I'd kind of like to know why he didn't like it.
well from what I gather
he has a bad taste in games
I have long questioned their taste, but when they came out in favor of AC, it was all I could do to believe that it's bad taste and not that they were bought. Which I do believe; I'll criticize their taste, but attacking their integrity seems unjustified.
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Tycho liked MOO3.
That's the last time I listened to his opinion about a video game.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Really things are pretty super-great right now. I am actually allowing myself to experience anticipation for MGS4. When it comes out, I plan to lift my personal ban on joy temporarily, just in case it really is that good.
counterpoint: playing assassin's creed is like having your lord and savior jesus christ have hot lesbian sex with you
Counter-counterpoint: More like Randall_Fag.
Like shakin' hands with an old friend.
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I kinda want to play through the MGS series at some point.
But watching the cutscenes online makes it seem like one of those deals where a storyteller's pretensions are inversely proportional to the amount worthwhile he has to say.
I kinda want to play through the MGS series at some point.
But watching the cutscenes online makes it seem like one of those deals where a storyteller's pretensions are inversely proportional to the amount worthwhile he has to say.
But 3 takes place in a jungle so hey.
MGS1 had a really good, believable storyline, excepting that there were a bunch of super-spies. However, the story really didn't focus on that, it focused on some reasonably realistic scenarios.
MGS2 went completely off the fucking deep end, the "real world concern" stuff was much further removed from believability and had bigger holes in it, but the real problem was that they started focusing on super-spy bullshit way more than was needed.
3 had a good character-driven story, and the villains and stuff in there were pretty much just silly bitches that looked like rejected Bond villains. Interestingly, though, the game divided up its major characters in to borderline-believable world-class warriors, and way-over-the-top ridiculous parodies. It worked pretty well, because you knew instantly which characters were just there as supporting roles/metaphors (and boss battles), and which were actually there to be interesting as characters.
Regarding actual gameplay, MGS1 was more like a pilot. It's good, but there are lots of flaws with it. Play it first, because you won't want to go back to it later. Don't bother with Twin Snakes. MGS2 had great mechanics, but the level design was ass, so most of the cool shit didn't manifest itself. The VR missions that came with 2 used many of those mechanics effectively, and were quite good. MGS3 is the only one without VR missions (as it takes place in the 60s, so VR machines did not exist), but the gameplay mechanics are really, really good and the level design is great at exposing the gameplay elements. The Subsistence version also offers a chasecam, as MGS3 is really pushing the fixed overhead view to its absolute limit.
So you should really play them in order.
EDIT: 3 does not just take place in a jungle. 3 takes place across several stretches of different types of wilderness with different degrees of enemy encampments/fortifications set up, and there are multiple enemy facilities (indoor areas) to go through as well as all the outdoor stuff. By the end of 3, you really feel like you've traveled across a huge stretch of land.
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i almost wept at the end of MSG3.
Eh, it's not a complaint like it offends or bothers me, and after having it put in the context of "Snake explains everything" it's even less of an issue. It's just that when listening to the podcasts and hearing how they work to whittle away all the excess and make the joke as funny, it seemed strange that they'd explain the joke with words rather than make it more visual. It really isn't an issue at all.
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In MGS4 supposedly there is a cutscene 14 hours long or something.
Yes, they really fucked up the stealth mechanic by rewarding you for getting hurt.
I played that way and I felt it was better than being a dumbfuck the whole way through (avoiding fights is easier than winning them), but being a dumbfuck is made easier because they reward getting beat up.
How do they reward getting beat up? Do you show all the girls your battle scars and get laid in some hidden mini-game?
When you get a wound (a serious injury, the type that shows up in the Cure menu), you see a little red bar appear in your health meter. Health will not regenerate over that bar, so it's like your max health is temporarily lowered. However, then the wound is healed, either naturally (just wait) or with the Cure menu, you'll hear the "ration" sound effect from previous MGS titles. At this time, your life bar is extended slightly. On Normal and Hard, you start with two blocks of life, on Extreme it's like one and a quarter blocks. If you keep getting wounded and then healing up, you can get up to four blocks. And medical supplies are ABUNDANT on all difficulty levels, even Extreme, so you can easily double your life on Normal and Hard, and triple it on Extreme.
well from what I gather
he has a bad taste in games
I have long questioned their taste, but when they came out in favor of AC, it was all I could do to believe that it's bad taste and not that they were bought. Which I do believe; I'll criticize their taste, but attacking their integrity seems unjustified.
CT I think you should argue with defender about this
I foresee no possible problems with this strategy
Go on, tell us.
That's the last time I listened to his opinion about a video game.
Yes, because they have bad taste, namely the inability to taste that their delicious kobe burger has a ripe turd mixed into the meat.
Really things are pretty super-great right now. I am actually allowing myself to experience anticipation for MGS4. When it comes out, I plan to lift my personal ban on joy temporarily, just in case it really is that good.
Counter-counterpoint: More like Randall_Fag.
Like shakin' hands with an old friend.
But watching the cutscenes online makes it seem like one of those deals where a storyteller's pretensions are inversely proportional to the amount worthwhile he has to say.
But 3 takes place in a jungle so hey.
quarter past never
they're "retooling" it
MGS1 had a really good, believable storyline, excepting that there were a bunch of super-spies. However, the story really didn't focus on that, it focused on some reasonably realistic scenarios.
MGS2 went completely off the fucking deep end, the "real world concern" stuff was much further removed from believability and had bigger holes in it, but the real problem was that they started focusing on super-spy bullshit way more than was needed.
3 had a good character-driven story, and the villains and stuff in there were pretty much just silly bitches that looked like rejected Bond villains. Interestingly, though, the game divided up its major characters in to borderline-believable world-class warriors, and way-over-the-top ridiculous parodies. It worked pretty well, because you knew instantly which characters were just there as supporting roles/metaphors (and boss battles), and which were actually there to be interesting as characters.
Regarding actual gameplay, MGS1 was more like a pilot. It's good, but there are lots of flaws with it. Play it first, because you won't want to go back to it later. Don't bother with Twin Snakes. MGS2 had great mechanics, but the level design was ass, so most of the cool shit didn't manifest itself. The VR missions that came with 2 used many of those mechanics effectively, and were quite good. MGS3 is the only one without VR missions (as it takes place in the 60s, so VR machines did not exist), but the gameplay mechanics are really, really good and the level design is great at exposing the gameplay elements. The Subsistence version also offers a chasecam, as MGS3 is really pushing the fixed overhead view to its absolute limit.
So you should really play them in order.
EDIT: 3 does not just take place in a jungle. 3 takes place across several stretches of different types of wilderness with different degrees of enemy encampments/fortifications set up, and there are multiple enemy facilities (indoor areas) to go through as well as all the outdoor stuff. By the end of 3, you really feel like you've traveled across a huge stretch of land.
when does tenchu iv come out
come on
Get it, because I'm implying that you're stupid.
Wiggin gets it.
And if I get it, anyone can get it.