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Episode 1... NOW ON STEAM!!!
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Episode 1 of The Rain Slick Precipice of Darkness is now available on Steam.
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I like the idea that when I am playing it, my friends can see that I am playing it and stuff...
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If I knew I could get a copy with achievements I'd have waited =(
ah well
next episode will be out soon enough
-Eric
Well that does make me feel better. Added on top of that I've never used Steam for anything so I'm not particularly bothered. I am this close to buying each episode twice anyway. I really don't need a reason to buy it three times, as much as I do love you guys.
If I wanted you to have my money that badly, I'd be better off just sending the cash.
What the fuck guys?
We're super sorry that you guys feel betrayed - that was never our intention. We knew we wanted to deliver the game direct and as quickly as possible as we could, and again, the Steam deal really just came together less than a week ago. Knowing now there is this concern from a group of you, we'll definitely make sure to reevaluate how we launch going forward. Again, sorry for confusion.
We are working on all sort of enhancements for Greenhouse. But our main focus was to ensure a successful launch so that everyone could start playing right away. Even though Hothead contributes and works on GH, they are separate companies. Hothead wants to ensure it makes great games. HH is also a self-publisher of its games. As a company, it wants to reach as many gamers as possible so that we can keep making great games. So speaking from a HH perspective, launching and supporting the game plus GH issues has been a huge logistical job. Now that we are getting a handle on post launch jitters, we are adding more platforms and will add more ways for gamers to play our games going forward--not just Steam.
From a Greenhouse perspective, GH wants to ensure that overlooked previously released indie and independent games and new upcoming indie and independent games are brought forth to a new gaming audience. GH wants to support Mac and Linux as well as Windows. We are working on other enhancements including looking at how best to add and support features such as achievements so stay tuned for more information about such developments. We are hiring staff to better serve current and future GH supporters. We are working to offer something complimentary to other services out there and our mission is not to directly compete against the likes of Steam. Steam has about 300 games available. Greenhouse is going to focus on a much smaller set and give you choices you may have overlooked. Steam does some of that but their mission and goals from an outside perspective are much more vast. Our name is Greenhouse for a reason--cultivate and innovate--that is what we want to foster. It may take us a while but we are going to get there.
And for those that were wondering, the launch was fantastic and your support, feedback and patience was much appreciated. Digital distribution is still in its infancy and you are helping us bring some new ideas and concepts to life. Thanks for your continued support.
No it wasn't.
Actually, yes, it does make me feel better.
I think the one takeaway here is that we'd like to be able to add the game to our steam list; if you could let us know if that's doable or not, that'd be great. It's not a real hill of beans one way or another - clearing it up just makes life easier on everyone.
My question to you, Robert, is how the hell do I get the boys to sign my copy of the game at PAX when it's digital only?
I never understood why you guys had to reinvent the wheel in the first place. What was the point? Surely a deal with Steam could have been worked out month ahead of the release.
I'm thinking maybe you didn't like the margins, Steam takes a large chunk as I understand it, but what's the value of an established and proven download service with a huge install base? I'm sure you get better margins through your own service, but how much was spent on R&D, hardware, bandwidth, etc...
I imagine that they took a hit there, what with GH being a new platform of release. They're hedging their bets on future games selling enough to cover the loss.
The whole point of GH, from what I understand, is that something like Steam is incredibly detrimental to a small developer who can't sacrifice the profits. It's a new area of distribution, because while Steam is cheaper to release on, this should be cheaper.
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Just to put it out there, I'm slightly upset that I didn't have the option to purchase it on Steam, but it's inconsequential to me. A good game is a good game, regardless of how I got it.
Very good game... this doesn't tarnish that. I'll get over it. :-)
(About a year ago)
HH: Hey Valve, we are making a game and want it released on your platform.
VALVE: Who are you? Hothead? Never heard of you. Why don't you call us back when you have some big-boy pants on.
(About a week ago)
VALVE GUY 1: Holy cats, the PA game just broke records and set a new viable price point for DLC on 360!
VALVE GUY 2: Didn't we tell them to buzz off about a year ago?
VALVE GUY 1: You what?
VALVE GUY 2: Hey, they have their own distribution and advertisement infrastructure called "Greenhouse" too.
VALVE GUY 1: Can Someone call this Robert guy for a meeting.... NOW!
I'm guessing Valve underestimated Hothead and the PA name and now are looking to make amends.
oh robert, how your sultry words sooth my anger at not having achievements. I love steam because I can re-dl a game with ease and you get achievements, but I'll keep using the PAs greenhouse.
how much does steam cut from each game sale?
Not every game made is going to be allowed on XBLA and likewise, not every game made is going to be allowed on Steam. The more choice developers have, the more varied the offerings gamers are going to have. I firmly believe it is great to have a strong player and leader like Valve and Steam and MS with XBLA but it is bad for everyone to have a single or very few sources. Besides a very valid mission that I believe GH can fulfill, the reason above is reason enough alone to exist and to grow.
I agree that the more choices, the better. Look at what happens when you don't have options: EA releases the same boring Madden every year with little to no innovation. If you want to play an NFL game , you have to deal with them.
I think that this is probably the most exciting time in history for game development. We've had Steam and XBLA for a while and just recently we get Greenhouse and WiiWare. We no longer have to play whatever Gamestop feels like selling to us, we can get any type of game from the comfort of our own home and the people that make the game actually get a bigger slice of the pie. Seems like a win/win for everyone.
Except for the fat cats down in Grapevine. Reminds me of one of my favorite PA strips.
But, really, self-publishing means you don't have to share profit with third-parties not involved in the creation process. Or, at least, from the sounds of GreenHouse, they have more control over the fees. If HotHead isn't making money, they can't keep making great games. By increasing revenue they gain uncountable opportunities for both the company and consumers. Better support, faster releases, more features, better graphics, longer games; all of these require people and money.
Releasing through GH allows (I'm guessing) maximum revenue for those able and willing to purchase through it. Releasing through Steam and XBLA allows thousands of other people who would have never even heard of the game the opportunity to buy it.
Other than the potential increase in revenue, clearly those involved want to provide the indie dev community with a medium to release games to consumers more easily.
Not only this, but giving less money to the people who made the game.
(I think Steam takes 50% of sales)
Ok fair enough.
Now I have two copies. :S