Firefox 3 is out! Thinking in Russian not required

Zilla360

Cyvros wrote: »

Oh yes, and userChrome and userContent FTW!

There is only XUL! :P

If you know even the least bit about HTML and CSS then you can get Firefox to pretty much jump through metaphorical hoops for you.

Cyvros

Zilla360 wrote: »

Cyvros wrote: »

Oh yes, and userChrome and userContent FTW!

There is only XUL! :P

If you know even the least bit about HTML and CSS then you can get Firefox to pretty much jump through metaphorical hoops for you.

Yeah. It would be even better if Google's HTML and CSS wasn't a mess, then I wouldn't spend half my time restarting Firefox to see if I changed the font in the correct div. <_< </rant>

And, I'd like to quickly add, it's easy to ditch the padding on the toolbars so the buttons are on the screen edges (you can throw your mouse against the left side of the screen and shift it up to hit the back button, etc.).

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Cyvros wrote: »

I just started using Opera 9.5 - it's faster because, at least for me, Fx 3 has that bug (I can't find the report at the moment) where, if one tab hangs, the rest hang. Opera generally browses at the speed I expect for my internet connection. Browsing in Fx makes me feel like I'm on dial-up.

From what I understand, Firefox is notoriously single threaded. I guess that's probably still the case with Firefox 3.

Cyvros

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Cyvros wrote: »

I just started using Opera 9.5 - it's faster because, at least for me, Fx 3 has that bug (I can't find the report at the moment) where, if one tab hangs, the rest hang. Opera generally browses at the speed I expect for my internet connection. Browsing in Fx makes me feel like I'm on dial-up.

From what I understand, Firefox is notoriously single threaded. I guess that's probably still the case with Firefox 3.

That would explain it. I found /. thread about this - apparently, if there are going to be improvements, it'll probably come in Firefox 4. Only bug I could find about this was the one I couldn't find - Long delays against some HTTP servers when using multiple persistent connections (network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server).

Writing this in Opera and browsing Bugzilla and MozillaZine in Firefox. Firefox just crashed. I've probably got some bastard add-on somewhere.

SirToasty

Firefox 3 RC1 doesn't seem to be any faster for me. And the memory usage is steadily climbing. Isn't Firefox 3 supposed to not do that?

Æthelred

I hate Awesome Bar. It'd probably be okay for a first-time user, but typing the first few letters of a URL and then down to select the address is too engrained in me. When I tried the beta, I kept going places I didn't want to go.

finalflight89 wrote: »

Firefox 3's awesome bar is the best thing ever!

Situation: I only remember one word in the title of the page that I recently visited.
SOLUTION: Type it in the address bar, and it's right there at that top.

MAGIC!

You've always been able to do that in the History sidebar.

Zilla360

Æthelred wrote: »

I hate Awesome Bar. It'd probably be okay for a first-time user, but typing the first few letters of a URL and then down to select the address is too engrained in me. When I tried the beta, I kept going places I didn't want to go.

finalflight89 wrote: »

Firefox 3's awesome bar is the best thing ever!

Situation: I only remember one word in the title of the page that I recently visited.
SOLUTION: Type it in the address bar, and it's right there at that top.

MAGIC!

You've always been able to do that in the History sidebar.

New things are scary, more at 11. Now here's Ollie with the weather.

Cyvros

Æthelred wrote: »

I hate Awesome Bar. It'd probably be okay for a first-time user, but typing the first few letters of a URL and then down to select the address is too engrained in me. When I tried the beta, I kept going places I didn't want to go.

finalflight89 wrote: »

Firefox 3's awesome bar is the best thing ever!

Situation: I only remember one word in the title of the page that I recently visited.
SOLUTION: Type it in the address bar, and it's right there at that top.

MAGIC!

You've always been able to do that in the History sidebar.

Sure, but now you can do it for both history and bookmarks without losing the side of your screen to the sidebar. If you use the awesomebar long enough, you'll get used to it and it will put your most visited pages at the top. Alternatively, if you don't want to do that, you can save time with keywords (/. for /., paf for the fora, etc.).

Zilla360 wrote: »

New things are scary, more at 11. Now here's Ollie with the weather.

RAIN!

GrimReaper

When Firefox 3 gets released tomorrow i'll update the op a bit, if anyone has suggestions for stuff like "must get" add-ons then fire away.

And since I'm now on that subject I've just come across a couple of pretty damn cool ones, it has always niggled me slightly how Firefox doesn't look as native as it should on Vista.

So, I have an add-on called Glasser which makes it look much more like a Vista program. That way it fits in better, so all the other Vista apps aren't picking on Firefox.. damn application racism, when will it end?



I'm also using the hide menubar add-on.

Direct download to the glasser installer.

With the addition of the stylish add-on and the css files copied and pasted from the glasser extras you can make it look like a wholly native Vista application.

For example:

Spoit

Anyone know how to add the "go" arrow that was to the right of the address bar in previous versions? Or at least have the same functionality?

GrimReaper

Spoit wrote: »

Anyone know how to add the "go" arrow that was to the right of the address bar in previous versions? Or at least have the same functionality?

It automatically appears when you start typing in the address bar. I'll see if I can dig out an add-on that adds it so it's permanently there though.

Cyvros

The Go arrow should still be there, just that it's inside the address bar now and only active when the URL's being edited.

This page has instructions on how to bring back the older style Go button, though.

Sorcy

When I'm downloading this thing tommorow will it take all (or at least as much as it can) from my Firefox 2 Installation or will I have to install Plugins and transfer bookmarks for half the day? Because if they take my Firebug from me I'm gonna kill someone...

Cyvros

Your profile is perfectly safe - you'll just get the add-ons window upon start-up because it needs to check the compatibility of your plug-ins. In fact, you can safely switch between Firefox 2 and 3 with the same profile, it's just annoying waiting for the compatibility checks.

Mr_Rose

If you install to the same location as your current install, the new one will have all the old stuff, except for the extensions that don't work (they will be present but disabled). If you install to a different location you will have to copy over the contents of your profile directory to the new one to get everything back the way it was, but the new install should automatically suck up bookmarks and things.

GrimReaper

I wonder why Mozilla didn't do what glasser is doing, I mean.. hell, with this damn cool add-on Firefox now looks like a fully integrated Vista program. Funny thing is that I only really use Vista at work though.

Of all the OS integration i'd say the XP version is probably the best.

On OS X whilst the buttons look like OS X buttons they don't appear to be actual OS X buttons. For example listviews etc. This guy actually gives good info on it, but calling it ugly is just plain stupid. It looks nice to me, it just doesn't appear to be fully integrated with OS X. (I use Firefox on my Macbook Pro) To be honest the only thing I noticed out of that lot was the listview menus as they don't have the proper fade/shadowing effect as they would with Safari and other fully native OS X apps.

Shazkar Shadowstorm

i lurv the awesome bar

Cyvros

GrimReaper wrote: »

I wonder why Mozilla didn't do what glasser is doing, I mean.. hell, with this damn cool add-on Firefox now looks like a fully integrated Vista program. Funny thing is that I only really use Vista at work though.

There was a thread on MozillaZine where one of the UI guys (Alex Faarborg - I think that's how you spell it) said that this wouldn't happen until a future version, possibly 3.5, because they were afraid it'd clash with existing add-ons.

Despite the fact that everyone is telling Moz how freaking awesome Fx looks like with proper glass and less of that sucky blue/purple/silver/chrome toolbar that is probably the worst part of Aero in my opinion. *inhales deeply* I think that mini-rant's done.

GrimReaper

Cyvros wrote: »

GrimReaper wrote: »

I wonder why Mozilla didn't do what glasser is doing, I mean.. hell, with this damn cool add-on Firefox now looks like a fully integrated Vista program. Funny thing is that I only really use Vista at work though.

There was a thread on MozillaZine where one of the UI guys (Alex Faarborg - I think that's how you spell it) said that this wouldn't happen until a future version, possibly 3.5, because they were afraid it'd clash with existing add-ons.

Despite the fact that everyone is telling Moz how freaking awesome Fx looks like with proper glass and less of that sucky blue/purple/silver/chrome toolbar that is probably the worst part of Aero in my opinion. *inhales deeply* I think that mini-rant's done.

That's an understatement, you only need to look at the screen shots I took above. With full Vista ui integration it looks miles better.

Fx 3 has been in development for a while now, they have no doubt broken lots of plug-ins. They should have just done it for 3. Well, here's hoping it appears in 3.1. (3.1 has been announced btw)

EDIT: Also, has anyone noticed how MozillaZines forum is broken? It redirects to http://forums-test.mozillazine.org/ which is deader than Gary Glitters musical career.

NailbunnyPD

I set the option, but I can't get FF3 RC3 to remember my tabs and windows from last time. This is on two installations upgraded from FF2.

GrimReaper

Have you got it using the same settings as shown in this pic?

Cyvros

The MozillaZine forum was fine earlier today. Wait, it's working now. I think they upgraded the forum software, because they now have the kind of blue CSS you only get on new fora. Plus Trebuchet MS. Also only ever seen on newly-installed fora.

EDIT: Notice on the site saying they just upgraded to phpBB3. Thrilling.

GrimReaper

Cyvros wrote: »

The MozillaZine forum was fine earlier today. Wait, it's working now. I think they upgraded the forum software, because they now have the kind of blue CSS you only get on new fora. Plus Trebuchet MS. Also only ever seen on newly-installed fora.

EDIT: Notice on the site saying they just upgraded to phpBB3. Thrilling.

Still dead here, redirects to http://forums-test.mozillazine.org/.

Maybe they updated their DNS too and it hasn't yet propagated to works ISP. I'll see when I get home I guess.

EDIT: The 3.0 directory on Mozillas FTP server has been created. They've dropped a HTML file in there that says the following:


We're almost ready!

We're still putting the finishing touches on Firefox 3, preparing the new website, getting our servers ready, and doing our final pre-launch checks. We're happy that people are eager to get their hands on Firefox 3, but we still have a little bit of work to do. The files in this directory should only be used by our testers for now. If you'd like to be notified about when we're ready for the world, please go to sign up for Download Day and we'll be happy to do that. Or head over to getfirefox.com on Tuesday, June 17th after 10am PDT.

Mr_Rose

NailbunnyPD wrote: »

I set the option, but I can't get FF3 RC3 to remember my tabs and windows from last time. This is on two installations upgraded from FF2.

Certain extensions fuck with the remembrotron subroutines; you will have to deflargle them yourself.
Lucky you, this is extremely simple:

Open "about:config" and set "browser.sessionstore.enabled" (the entire line should be bolded for your convenience) to "true" by double-clicking the "false" text and confirming the little dialogue that pops up.

For the interested, FF3 appears to remember both your closed tabs and the back-button history for each tab as well. This is awesome.

NailbunnyPD

GrimReaper wrote: »

Have you got it using the same settings as shown in this pic?

Yes, though I have different homepages, and I have downloads set to ask me where to save.

GrimReaper

NailbunnyPD wrote: »

GrimReaper wrote: »

Have you got it using the same settings as shown in this pic?

Yes, though I have different homepages, and I have downloads set to ask me where to save.

Wow, that's really weird.

On what platform is this occuring and what version of Firefox? (for example Windows XP Pro + Firefox 3 RC3)

Mr_Rose

GrimReaper wrote: »

NailbunnyPD wrote: »

GrimReaper wrote: »

Have you got it using the same settings as shown in this pic?

Yes, though I have different homepages, and I have downloads set to ask me where to save.

Wow, that's really weird.

On what platform is this occuring and what version of Firefox? (for example Windows XP Pro + Firefox 3 RC3)

Mr_Rose wrote: »

NailbunnyPD wrote: »

I set the option, but I can't get FF3 RC3 to remember my tabs and windows from last time. This is on two installations upgraded from FF2.

Certain extensions fuck with the remembrotron subroutines; you will have to deflargle them yourself.
Lucky you, this is extremely simple:

Open "about:config" and set "browser.sessionstore.enabled" (the entire line should be bolded for your convenience) to "true" by double-clicking the "false" text and confirming the little dialogue that pops up.

For the interested, FF3 appears to remember both your closed tabs and the back-button history for each tab as well. This is awesome.

This is the solution. Have you tried it yet?

NailbunnyPD

Mr_Rose wrote: »

This is the solution. Have you tried it yet?

Not before my last post, but as soon as I posted I applied the setting. It didn't work until I restarted Firefox a second time.

Thank you!

BahamutZERO

ArcSyn wrote: »

Does no one else use ctrl-pgup or ctrl-pgdn for going through tabs?

I use ctrl+tab and ctrl+shift+tab.

Dusda

I've had a bug with Firefox 2 that showed up randomly about six months after I reformatted my laptop for Vista. When I download something, the moment it is finished the file is removed from Firefox's download manager. I've reinstalled FF2 in the past, to no effect. Also, installing FF3 RC2 and 3 have the same behavior.

Any ideas?

SpazMuffin

Oh Firefox 3, what to do, what to do. I love your features, but on my aging iMac G5, even the latest release candidate is somewhat sluggish, especially so when compared to Safari. On a newer computer I can't notice a difference, but on mine it certainly shows. Also I have to read some of the guides to the new version, the new bookmark management system sort of confuses me but I bet there is so much good stuff packed in there.

khain

Dusda wrote: »

I've had a bug with Firefox 2 that showed up randomly about six months after I reformatted my laptop for Vista. When I download something, the moment it is finished the file is removed from Firefox's download manager. I've reinstalled FF2 in the past, to no effect. Also, installing FF3 RC2 and 3 have the same behavior.

Any ideas?

Not sure this is consistent between FF2 and FF3, but in FF2 go Tools->Options->Privacy and in the History box check "Remember what I've downloaded".

Dusda

khain wrote: »

Dusda wrote: »

I've had a bug with Firefox 2 that showed up randomly about six months after I reformatted my laptop for Vista. When I download something, the moment it is finished the file is removed from Firefox's download manager. I've reinstalled FF2 in the past, to no effect. Also, installing FF3 RC2 and 3 have the same behavior.

Any ideas?

Not sure this is consistent between FF2 and FF3, but in FF2 go Tools->Options->Privacy and in the History box check "Remember what I've downloaded".

...You have no idea how awesome you are.

GrimReaper

Fx3 is out guys, albeit on Mozillas FTP at present whilst they hope it propagates to mirrors.

I've updated the op, anyone want to suggest more information to add?

Like screenshots of the windows, linux and os x versions? Perhaps essential add-ons etc?

Cyvros

In regards to add-ons, I'd second the recommendation for Glasser (if you're using Vista), then AdBlock Plus (plus the Element Hider) and Tabs Open Relative (if I could have only one add-on, this would be it).

Gilder

So I just downloaded Firefox 3 and I have 2 problems that I'm sure have a simple solution.

1. These bookmarks in my recent internet history drop-down menu thing. I want them gone. If I want to see my bookmarked sites I'll click bookmarks, not my drop-down of recent sites. How do I stop them from showing up? It's really annoying to just want to click penny-arcade and instead of finding it at the bottom like usual I find some other bookmark.

2. I have shitty eyes so I can't read small font on this high resolution. I always just used ctrl+scroll wheel to enlarge the text but in 3 it seems to not work right and it just zooms the whole page in instead of making the text bigger. This results in pictures being really blurry. I'd like a way to do it just like I used to.

So can anyone help with these 2 things?

LordOfMeep

Does NoScript still work?

Ayulin

Gilder: Not sure about the first, but for the second point, just go to View, then Zoom, and click Zoom Text Only. That should bring back the old zoom behaviour.

LordOfMeep: Yeah, NoScript works.

Gilder

Ayulin wrote: »

Gilder: Not sure about the first, but for the second point, just go to View, then Zoom, and click Zoom Text Only. That should bring back the old zoom behaviour.

Excellent, that works quite well. I knew it was something simple. Thanks a lot. Now I just need these bookmarks out of the way and I'm all set.

JAEF

Man I just upgraded to release from RC3 and my world has flipped 360°