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Getting five meals a day?

noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I read the fitness thread, and it talks about getting five or six small meals a day, with breakfast being the biggest one. I'm trying to figure out how to do that, and the type of meals I should pack.

Right now, I only have three meals.

Breakfast- Usually cereal or eggs.

Lunch- This is my biggest meal, which I'm realizing is wrong. I usually eat around 1-2pm, and it tends to be whatever I can cook up. Sometimes it's just a sandwhich

Dinner- I take a salad to work, end up eating it at usually 8:30 pm.

So I look to you, Help and Advice to give me examples of what you have eaten, as well as quick(cheap would help) recipes.

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  • PopsPops __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    Eating 6 meals is tough. It's a lot of food, but really some of those meals are only snacks, not full featured sit down meals. Just make breakfast bigger. Eat some instant oatmeal bars.

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  • snarkssnarks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Another thing to consider (especially if you are doing weight lifting or exercise) is to add one or two whey protein shakes into your diet. A tub of whey protein is cheap, whey shakes work as a good additional meal and also help immensely with hitting your daily protein target (important for healing your muscles after exercising).

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I think that the word "meal" may be an over statement. If you are eating six "meals" a day, it really shouldn't be more than 300 calories. Seriously, a pack of raisin, or say an apple and a small piece of cheese will suffice. It should be six snacks per day, not meals.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    I think that the word "meal" may be an over statement. If you are eating six "meals" a day, it really shouldn't be more than 300 calories. Seriously, a pack of raisin, or say an apple and a small piece of cheese will suffice. It should be six snacks per day, not meals.

    That's 1800 calories. For a considerable amount of the population, this is barely able to sustain life. Do you follow this lifestyle or have experience with it? If not please don't post, your suggsetions are potentially dangerous. A small piece of cheese is not a meal.

    Try doing three days worth of chicken at a time and keeping them in tupperware. Throw some brown rice in and that's a good lunch. For snacks you can't go wrong with a protein bar or shake.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As a matter of fact, yes I have done this when I was intentionally losing weight. And I felt fine. I didn't say that a small piece of cheese was a "meal." It was part of a snack with an apple, or whatever else you choose. My point was that eating six meals per day doesn't necessarily mean a "meal" in the normally construed sense, but is instead intended to be regular snacking throughout the day.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I wouldn't recommend following this exact diet, as I had very specific goals (continue to gain clean mass, reduce catabolism, trigger increased hormone production), but it may help give you an idea:

    Meals could be eaten in any order, as long as Meal 1 was first and Meal 7 was last.

    Meal 1
    6 whole omega-3 eggs
    1 Medium Naval Orange
    1 Organic Fuji Apple

    Meal 2
    Micellar Casein based protein powder, 1 scoop
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter

    Meal 3
    200g (8oz) lean chicken, lean turkey, or wild salmon (NOT farm raised!)
    1/2 cup Macademia nuts, almonds, or cashews (NOT roasted - plain, unsalted and raw)
    1/2 cup rice (white, brown, doesn't matter)

    Meal 4
    Micellar Casein based protein powder, 1 scoop
    1 tblsp natural almond or cashew butter

    Meal 5
    200g (8oz) fresh, grass-fed red meat (I usually eat buffalo, but a good sirloin works, too)
    1 cup pineapple

    Meal 6
    Micellar Casein based protein powder, 1 scoop
    1 tblsp extra virgin olive or Macademia nut oil
    1 Medium Naval Orange

    Meal 7, to be taken right before bedtime
    3 whole omega-3 eggs
    1 tblsp natural peanut butter



    Also, water with every meal, and I went through a container of Naked Juice Green Machine every 8 - 10 days.


    The hardest part is getting into a routine. After two weeks or so, you feel off if you miss a meal or eat something different, so just stick with it and you'll be fine.

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  • BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The meals you're talking about are smaller, but not substantially. One of them could be substituted for a large protein shake, for instance. Keep them to between 300 and 400 calories (or a little more, depending on how much physical activity you're getting), and make sure to hit all the food groups. The mentality behind this is that when you get to time for the next meal, you won't be as hungry, and therefore will only eat what you need, and not binge.

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  • OdinOwnsYeAllOdinOwnsYeAll Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Study Finds Eating Frequency Not The Way To Weight Loss
    27 May 2008
    Eating more often than three meals a day does not assist with weight loss, new Australian research suggests.

    The study found no difference in weight, waist measurement, body fatness or blood sugar levels between people who ate three meals a day, and those who ate three meals and three snacks while trying to lose weight.

    'There seems to be little benefit to changing how often or how regularly you eat if you're trying to lose weight. Many people find it hard enough to stick to a healthy eating plan to lose weight, let alone worrying about any suggested benefits of snacking or not snacking.

    'It's not when you eat that matters, but what and how much you eat,' said lead author and Accredited Practising Dietitian Michelle Palmer.

    Ms Palmer will present her findings at the Dietitians Association of Australia (DAA) national conference at the Gold Coast this week.

    The study involved 179 obese men and women who were all on a standard kilojoule-reduced diet, but with differing eating patterns.

    According to Australia's last national nutrition survey, around 56 per cent of adults report to eat between twice to four times a day, while 37 per cent eat five to seven times daily.

    Ms Palmer said dieters need to focus on eating fewer kilojoules, especially when it came to snack choices, and that portion control was the key.

    'A 60g chocolate bar has as many kilojoules as four medium apples, the kilojoules in a large muffin are equal to four cups of carrot sticks, and a 50g packet of potato crisps has the same kilojoules as nine cups of air-popped popcorn.

    'Manufactured snack foods can be high in saturated fat, salt, sugar and kilojoules, but low in nutrients like vitamins and minerals, and fibre - which keeps us full,' said Ms Palmer. Ms Palmer recommends planning snacks with small portions in mind. And she said time-pressed nibblers should consider nutritious, quick and filling snacks like raisin toast or crumpets, a handful of unsalted nuts, crackers with low-fat cheese, a tub of yogurt or a piece of fruit, or a bowl of cereal with reduced-fat milk.

    The DAA 26th national conference will be held from May 29 - 31 at Conrad Jupiters at the Gold Coast. The conference is titled 'Improving nutrition - a social responsibility'.
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/108794.php

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    I think that the word "meal" may be an over statement. If you are eating six "meals" a day, it really shouldn't be more than 300 calories. Seriously, a pack of raisin, or say an apple and a small piece of cheese will suffice. It should be six snacks per day, not meals.

    That's 1800 calories. For a considerable amount of the population, this is barely able to sustain life. Do you follow this lifestyle or have experience with it? If not please don't post, your suggsetions are potentially dangerous. A small piece of cheese is not a meal.

    Try doing three days worth of chicken at a time and keeping them in tupperware. Throw some brown rice in and that's a good lunch. For snacks you can't go wrong with a protein bar or shake.

    I don't think he meant EACH of the six meals should be 300 calories. I think it meant the snacks around whatever main meals he eats should be smaller in portion.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The study involved 179 obese men and women who were all on a standard kilojoule-reduced diet, but with differing eating patterns.

    Eating a reduced calorie diet five or six meals a day isn’t how it works. The point of eating more meals is to spread calories out to keep the body from converting them to fat inbetween meals. Doing it with a slashed calorie intake still starves the body. That study is crap.

    edit: and to the OP—try lightly salted peanuts, fruits, crispy veggies, and anything else that’s easy to prepare in bulk and just eat measured amounts of. Mixing an apple/banana and a protein shake or peanuts/almonds is an easy small meal.

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    supabeast wrote: »
    The study involved 179 obese men and women who were all on a standard kilojoule-reduced diet, but with differing eating patterns.

    Eating a reduced calorie diet five or six meals a day isn’t how it works. The point of eating more meals is to spread calories out to keep the body from converting them to fat inbetween meals. Doing it with a slashed calorie intake still starves the body. That study is crap.

    Isn't that nice, someone brings in a researched study and you dismiss it entirely because you don't agree with it. You do realize it takes longer than the time between meals for the body to convert it to fat?

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  • OdinOwnsYeAllOdinOwnsYeAll Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    'It's not when you eat that matters, but what and how much you eat,' said lead author and Accredited Practising Dietitian Michelle Palmer.

    5 meals a day is impractical and ineffective as a mechanism to lose weight.

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  • BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I think it's more a venue to keep from getting exceedingly hungry between large meals and overeating during those meals more than anything else.

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    The point of frequent eating is twofold:

    1. Eating smaller portions keeps your body from turning excess calories into fat.
    2. Eating protein more frequently during the day keeps your metabolism high.

    Yeah, if your frequent eating involves eating ice cream *6* times a day and not just 3, then yeah, it's not going to help much. They still need to be balanced meals with protein, carbs, fiber, healthy fats, etc.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    OP, is your goal to lose weight?

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Sure is.

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  • KMFurDMKMFurDM Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Sure is.

    What exercise are you doing?

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I just started about a month ago. Currently I'm doing forty minutes of stationary bike three times a week and trying to eat a whole lot better. I posted on the fitness thread asking what other in home exercises I should be doing to help my cause. (Right now it's not financially feasible to join a gym, and I rather know that I'll stick to the exercise plan before I sign up)

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    meal frequency doesn't matter at all. only calories/nutrients.
    http://www.google.com/search?q=reduced+meal+frequency+study

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited June 2008
    'It's not when you eat that matters, but what and how much you eat,' said lead author and Accredited Practising Dietitian Michelle Palmer.

    5 meals a day is impractical and ineffective as a mechanism to lose weight.

    No it isn't. The vast majority of people who make significant changes to their body composition do so with multiple meals a day. You know not of what you speak.

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  • DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    'It's not when you eat that matters, but what and how much you eat,' said lead author and Accredited Practising Dietitian Michelle Palmer.

    5 meals a day is impractical and ineffective as a mechanism to lose weight.

    No it isn't. The vast majority of people who make significant changes to their body composition do so with multiple meals a day. You know not of what you speak.

    Tube is right. Being an ectomorph with a fast metabolism, I could never have gained as much muscle as I have without having 6 - 7 "meals" a day.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    It is hard if you're working full time though. I can't really get past four meals, because its just too disruptive to be stopping to eat that often. When I'm in the office, 5-6 evenly spread meals would mean I'd have to eat on the bus both to and from home (long commute), and I don't want to be stabbed by an angry bus driver. In the field, there's just no time to stop for longer than a snack, and I'd imagine anyone working construction or other outdoorsy jobs would be in a similar boat to me.

    Shrinking your main meals a bit and adding a morning and afternoon snack to tide you over should be enough for starting off. Its not quite the full whatever, but its more practical. Also, drink more fluids, non-sugary ones. Staying hydrated wards off false hunger pangs.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    I think that the word "meal" may be an over statement. If you are eating six "meals" a day, it really shouldn't be more than 300 calories. Seriously, a pack of raisin, or say an apple and a small piece of cheese will suffice. It should be six snacks per day, not meals.

    That's 1800 calories. For a considerable amount of the population, this is barely able to sustain life. Do you follow this lifestyle or have experience with it? If not please don't post, your suggsetions are potentially dangerous. A small piece of cheese is not a meal.

    A small piece of cheese and an apple is also not 300 calories, which I think is the more worrying part of that post (1800 is my normal intake, and I'm doing fine on it, but it'd be no good for a bloke). Unless apples overseas are a foot in diameter, both of those suggestions would barely crack 100 calories by themselves. They'd also have a fairly hefty proportion of fats and sugars, although at least they're fresh.

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  • Dance CommanderDance Commander Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I eat 1800 Calories a day while working out four days a week, and I've been gaining muscle and losing weight for months, and yes, I'm pretty sure I'm a guy. It is doable.
    Now, I'll grant that I'm not gaining muscle very fast, but at least I'm not picking up anything gross along the way.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    You could alwasy jsut munch of a Clif's bar or something at work

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  • SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Also, your calorie intake should be based on your body/muscle mass and activity levels. a 5'3" woman will need less calories than a 6'5" male who runs marathons. You can't really say '1800 calories is enough' without knowing more.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As a guy, I did 1800 calories a day for almost a year while I dropped a good 50 pounds. Once I got to the target weigth I wanted though, I upped the calories. Usually eat between 2200-2500 now. Even more now that I'm training for a marathon.

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  • JeffHJeffH Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    eating 5 meals a day is not proven fact, even in the bodybuilding world. I know of a lot of people that have had good results doing the warrior diet, or whatever it is. I think the most important thing is that you're actually tracking everything you eat on the day, how much cals fat/carb/protein you consume, etc.

    If you're looking for easy meals, pack a protein shake with you to work - doesn't get much easier than that.

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