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I'm thirty years old and I've never been in a fight. At least not the throw down, throwing punches, kicking, bruising, and bleeding kind of fight. For personal reasons that I won't get into, I've actually been thinking about it lately, or at least while I have health insurance. Sort of just picking a random fight for the hell of it. Oh, I probably won't do it, but it has crossed my mind. I am Jack's deflated sense of self-worth.
But it's also led to another thought: How many people have actually been in a fight? So I pose the question. How many of you have actually been in a fight? How did it happen? How did it go? Share your fighting stories. You're not talking about Fight Club, just the fights you've been in, so you're not technically breaking any rules.
But it's also led to another thought: How many people have actually been in a fight? So I pose the question. How many of you have actually been in a fight? How did it happen? How did it go? Share your fighting stories. You're not talking about Fight Club, just the fights you've been in, so you're not technically breaking any rules.
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Martial arts is a great way to satisfy that urge to get into physical combat, and it's done in a safe and fun way, plus you actually learn stuff about what your body can and can't do.
That said, I've never been in a real fight or even close to one. Except maybe shit talking on the soccer field, but never a fight.
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How about, like Hurt says, instead of looking for a fight you take up martial arts or boxing and then get in the ring some. Most areas have some sort of gym that you can amateur fight, and you get out some of that aggression while still being able to tell stories someday to your grandkids about how you either kicked ass or got your ass kicked.
Join a gym that teaches a fighting discipline. You will get this out of your system and more importantly learn how to properly defend yourself. Personally fighting is cathartic for me. I love it but only when the time is right. Remember the best way to win a fight is to simply avoid the situation and not have to fight at all. So seriously, join a gym. Get hit a bit. Leave after a month or maybe stick with it if you find the hobby exciting and worthwhile. It really is invigorating though so be careful you could become addicted.
Kidding, mostly.
What? Pick up two bar stools and spin around like a helicopter until all are blood and ash, then drink?
Are you vain?
(Yes, I have the scars to prove many fights. I wish I didn't, scars itch.)
Edit: Healed broken bones are worse.
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And then after I joined the Army we would train in ground fighting techniques/boxing/pugel sticks. It's alot of fun and even though they didn't want us fighting each other outside of training sessions sometimes we would just beat the crap out of each other for fun. There is something very satisfying about a fight. I'm just gonna agree with everyone here, go to a gym and step in the ring. There may even be classes for learning to fight MMA style which is the most fun. If worse comes to worse go to a karate class (Lulz) and beat up 8 year olds.
Oh, forgot to mention. Do not start a fight with random people, you never know they may fuck your shit up and then send you to jail.
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I've never formally taken a martial art. I've been meaning to take eskrima.
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I'm the kind of guy, that if he got punched, would probably run like a sissy.
I'm horrible at fighting.
That being said my fights haven't been terribly noteworthy, and I haven't been in one since freshman year of high school. I'll mouth off to someone, and they'll either jump me or sock me in the nose.
Although there was this one time that I particularly remember where a gang of people surrounded me in the eighth grade. It was one of those bullshit situations where I think the guy trying to fight me was being pressured into it by his peers, because it wouldn't really make sense any other way. So, he punches me and asks me to give up, and my response was putting both hands around his neck. In retrospect I'm really glad I didn't break anything, because he went down pretty fast.
Also another bullshit thing about every fight I've been in is that they've all been broken up in the first minute or so, and I always gotten the same punishment as the instigator. Including the one time someone jumped me from behind when I wasn't even aware they were there.
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(Edit: I'm not saying to get peppered with blows or anything but it's very hard to dodge when your eyes are closed.)
I imagine this is the case, but I've never been in enough fist fights to do that, and I guess never bothered practicing with someone.
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it would be funny if you picked a random fight and a guy shot you.
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In high school I went to Holland for a model united nations meeting. At night me and a bunch of friends were hanging out at some bar. I decided to leave early. On my way to the tram, I got cornered by three bullies from another school who decided to make fun of my school jacket (which was red and white. our school colors). So I got in the face of the biggest one, looked him in the eye, and told him that I knew the president of the Holland MUN Program personally, and if they didn't fuck off immediately, they'd be expelled the next day.
Fortunately my bluff worked. They apologized profusely and left.
If it hadn't worked I'd probably had my ass beaten then and there. I mean I'm good, but not 3v1 good. :P
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But, I've never been in a fight. (ignoring elementary school, where a nosebleed was a serious injury!) Never had the urge, and I'm glad.
Hell, the thing I'm most of proud is talking my way out of possible fights (which happen a lot when some people, eager to prove themselves, want to take on the "martial arts" guy). Sometimes my ego has to take a beating, but it has always been worth it.
With that said, I'll echo the advice of what others have said: take martial arts. It's a great way to get the feeling of a fight into your body. I will say that without at least a year of experience you won't have the mentality that you would in a real fight - simply because of the presence of a safety net in the form of rules and padding. But you do get there with time.
Also, re the romanticism of getting punched in the face - I think it exists. I'm probably terribly biased, but I find it the most interesting violent interaction you can have. Also, after a while, getting hit in the face actually becomes a good thing (to an extent), what with the rush of adrenaline.
Also, it brings the more obvious me-versus-you to the table with no other players in the form of weapons - the "ultimate" test of a man's mettle. I think that's bunk, but I'm sure someone believes that.
The thing that most people don't get is how fragile we are (Hollywood, including Fight Club, doesn't show this).
Now, I'm not talking about martial artists, boxers, police or criminals. I'm talking about people like me who don't get into fights a lot. Between non-pros, most fights are over after the first decent hit. I've seen a lot of fights, and 99% of them were decided by who hit first, and their willingness to keep hitting. Not who was fittest, strongest or toughest. Who was more of a cunt. To make my conclusion clear - unless you're fighting skilled people, being a shit will win you more fights than your abs of steel.
Also, getting hit really fucking hurts. And once you're an adult, hitting people really fucking hurts. Again, this doesn't apply to the proper tough guys (e.g. Doc or JonnyCache here), but if you're not used to it, but you're not extremely weak, punching someone in the face will really hurt your hand.
Our ability to do damage increases massively after our childhood years, but our ability (and willingness) to take damage doesn't. I'm not tough, I'm not especially strong, and I'm a rubbish martial artist who hasn't taken classes in 20 years, but one of the many things that keeps me away from violence as an adult is the high chance of seriously hurting someone.
To the OP - do some martial arts. It sounds like you need it. But I don't think being able to fist-fight is manly. I don't know if I'm still able to fight well, and it doesn't matter at all.
We have police and laws and civilisation. Martial arts are very enjoyable, and useful in many other ways too, but fighting skills, unless you have an unusual life, are not very useful. In and of themselves, they are about as important as mammoth-killing skills.
You wanna test yourself as a man? Maintain a loving relationship for years, raise kids, hold down a job that contributes to society, be someone that can be relied upon. All more worthwhile aspects of 'manliness' than fighting.
One was at school, a kid threw a tennis ball at me, so I took it and pocketed it. He then came over and was all 'Give me my tennis ball, I want to throw it at someone else', so I denied, on account of him clearly being a prick.
Soon, his mates surrounded me, and he was getting all threatening, and I absolutely wasn't going to back down to some bully who just wanted to hurt people. Now, I never start fights, so I was ready to pounce as soon as he made the first move, fists balled at my side. However, instead of him making the first move, his mate pushed me back against a nearby car, so I punched his mate instead.
Cue a fight between his mate and I, where we got broken up and both of us took a decent pounding from the other.
Afterwards, the primary bully, who had been threatening to throw the ball at random people, came up to me and said he was impressed with my fight and gave back my glasses, which had been knocked off. I figured that after that minor concession I'd better hand back his ball, so I did, though I told him not to chuck it at anymore people, which he agreed to.
Kinda an OK fight. Still hate the guy though, he's scum in our local area.
I've only gotten into two fights as an adult and the empty feeling you get afterwards is one of the most gut -wrenching depressing feeling you'll ever experience.
The most recent time was because my friend's younger brother got absolutely hammered at a club and inexplicably punched one of her coworkers. Unfortunately there was 5 of them and one of him, so they all ganged up on him. I had to jump in to untangle him from the mess by pulling off a guy on top of him by using a half nelson. That was a stupid idea because that basically enabled the drunk brother to get back off the ground and start throwing punches at all the other people nearby. A friend of the guy I had in the half nelson then joined the fracas and got me in a rear-naked choke. He started yelling at me to let go of his friend, and I was in no position to argue so I let go. He then let go of his hold and the three of us calmly got up and just looked at each other like "um ok now what?". I apologized to the guy for grabbing him and explained that I was just trying to get him off the my friend's brother. He was just shocked because he got punched in the face by the drunk brother for absolutely no reason at all. The only thing I could say was, "yeah, he just drank too much, I don't know what's going on". By this time, the angry drunk brother was running down the street just yelling obscenities and threatening anyone in his way. He was about to start boxing with another guy when we got in-between them to finally diffuse the situation. It was an absolutely senseless situation and one that ended up with several people getting hurt just because one guy couldn't control his liquor. Needless to say, I haven't hung out with that guy since the incident and part of me thinks it would have been better if I just let him take his lumps for being so out of control.
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I was pretty amazed when I moved away from there and realized there were MANY people who had NEVER been in a fight. It was really a massive culture shock.
Since then, I've only been in one fight (senior year of high school) that I totally could have avoided. But, this guy and I have a history. This guy had a girlfriend a year or so before this. Let's call her Melissa, because that's her name. Now, being a teenager, and having never done it before, I thought it would be fun to see if I could take this guy's girl. It was terribly easy, and to be honest I got bored with her pretty much right after that. So, this guy hates me. Anyway, fast forward to the fight day. I have to ride the bus, because my ride doesn't show up (that pisses me off already). Since I have to ride the fucking bus for an hour now, I put my knees up and go to sleep. I wake up to this asshole punching the seat. So, I jump up, and so does he. And then he has the audacity to say "You're not going to do anything." At which point he ate a left cross and about 10 left jabs. My right hand was busy holding him up as after punch 3 or 4 he was horizontal over the seat.
And, despite what some nancies here will say, it felt DAMN GOOD to win that fight, against that jerk. The thrill of victory is very real, and it sticks with you.
That being said, today martial arts is getting an upswing in popularity. There's decent odds that if you go picking a fight, you're going to be picking a fight with someone with martial arts training, and they're going to totally fuck your world up. So I would suggest that if you don't know how to fight, learn. Otherwise you're just an asshole throwing swords that doesn't know how to juggle. You're going to get hurt.
Do you mean to sound like a complete shit?
You stole someone's girlfriend (yes, I know, shesawomaninherownrightandallofherchoicesarevalid, but still), and then you got bored of her and dumped her and then beat him up?
Thank Christ I'm a 'nancy'.
Because you failed. Miserably.
EDIT: Beat'd
Yes. As a teenager I did some things I wouldn't do now, just because I could. You'll find that's a very common tale.
You should, because escrima is wicked fun
Never been in a fight with an adult outside my gym, but as a youngster I'd gotten into a few fights with my older brother, and once with the school bully when I was, oh... about twelve years old. I'm of the sort of temparament where I'm a really calm guy for 99.95% of the time, but when someone pushes my buttons just right I can snap and get pretty freakin' angry.
Recently though I had a rib cracked at my gym, by someone else's knee. It was surprising how little it took.
Also, to echo something poshniallo said, bareknuckle punching people, so I'm told, really fucking hurts.
Our head instructor tells us that he's not fond of advising using a fist for self-defense situations, because if you actually do connect with a decent punch to a non-fleshy area of someone, and you're not well-trained and practiced in hitting people full on, you're likely to do yourself serious damage. Metacarpals ain't that strong apparently. Striking hard with the heel of your hand may be a better bet, unless you judge the situation to be so desparate you're willing to break your hand.
I find training martial arts to be great fun though. As far as fitness is concerned I've found kickboxing to be pretty much the most extreme cardio workout I've ever done, great for pretty much your whole body. And being able to know that if the absolute worst happened, you'd be able to cause damage to someone who wants to maim or kill you is slightly comforting. That, and lastly, I'm sure I'm not alone in this but some martial arts (such as escrima) are aesthetically just great to watch and practice. That's why kung-fu flicks are so fun to watch, after all. Being able to do wicked stuff with your body is just satisfying, probably the same thrill dancers get I suppose.
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