Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Lois Lane is the worst reporter ever.
There's a big difference between not suspecting Superman has a secret identity and taking close-up pictures of him every day while working at the desk next to Clark Kent...
I'm look at you, Jimmy Olsen...
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Are you joking? How is that ill spent? I've got a similar collection at home, though I've taken a break from action figures so I can focus more on 1:1 scale props and replicas, 1:6 scale figures and 1:4 statues. And that doesn't even count comics. I never once thought any of "hobby" money was ill spent.
Are you joking? How is that ill spent? I've got a similar collection at home, though I've taken a break from action figures so I can focus more on 1:1 scale props and replicas, 1:6 scale figures and 1:4 statues. And that doesn't even count comics. I never once thought any of "hobby" money was ill spent.
As long as you don't collect faberge eggs then crack them open and eat them.
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Lois Lane is the worst reporter ever.
There's a big difference between not suspecting Superman has a secret identity and taking close-up pictures of him every day while working at the desk next to Clark Kent...
I'm look at you, Jimmy Olsen...
Batman's always seemed just as flimsy. He's obviously based in Gotham, he obviously has a ton of cash, and he's obviously a white male of a certain age. There's probably no more than half a dozen people who could possibly be Batman, and following the money or doing some checking up on timing could narrow it down pretty fast. You probably wouldn't even need to be a cop or a reporter to figure it out.
I'm still not sure if this is a hobby or crazy-cat-lady disease.
I'd have to go with the latter myself. Though I do wish I had that kind of hobby money. I'm in the process of moving right now, and other than my, like, 5 pieces of furniture, I just packed up just about everything I own into 6 or 7 small boxes and a suitcase.
Batman's always seemed just as flimsy. He's obviously based in Gotham, he obviously has a ton of cash, and he's obviously a white male of a certain age. There's probably no more than half a dozen people who could possibly be Batman, and following the money or doing some checking up on timing could narrow it down pretty fast. You probably wouldn't even need to be a cop or a reporter to figure it out.
I'm pretty sure Bane used that exact reasoning, along with facial/chin comparisons of all the fit, wealthy, men in Gotham to discern Batman's identity.
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Yes, but, you see
Superman doesn't wear a mask. There is nothing to unmask about him.
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Yes, but, you see
Superman doesn't wear a mask. There is nothing to unmask about him.
Exactly, he wears nothing to cover his face when he is out fighting crime. And when he is Clark Kent his disguise is a pair of glasses. His physique and face are the same. How did not one person ever figure out that the two men look exactly the same.
Why is it that glasses qualify as the perfect disguise in the DC universe? Superman becomes Clark Kent with them and Wonder Woman becomes Diana Prince. She didn't even change her first name.
If you lived on DC earth, would you assume that Superman had a secret identity? Even though he wears no mask and seems to respond to trouble anywhere? Would you even consider the possibility that he would, for some reason, want to live as a normal person, without all of his power? Would you consider the possiblity of him assuming the identity of Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter?
Answer: No. If you answered yes, you have made a mistake somewhere in your reasoning.
Superman is a larger-than-life, near-godlike figure for normal people. They see no reason why he would live a double life as anything other than that.
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Yes, but, you see
Superman doesn't wear a mask. There is nothing to unmask about him.
No... he relies entirely on the stupidity of humans not to figure it out. When you think about it, it's actually kind of insulting.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
The House Un-American Activities Committee asked Jay Garrick to reveal his identity even though he doesn't wear a mask. Also, Starman was probably on the team at the time too.
It's generally assumed that superheroes have identities outside of their lives as heroes, but apparently Superman is exempt for some reason.
I can buy them not thinking he was secretly Clark Kent simply because the identity is specifically designed to be the polar opposite of Superman and the idea that Superman would enjoy being Clark Kent, moreso than Superman simply having a secretly identity, is wildly implausible.
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There's that cover over at super-dickery where superman comes out and says "I can't believe none of you fucks figured this out."
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The House Un-American Activities Committee asked Jay Garrick to reveal his identity even though he doesn't wear a mask. Also, Starman was probably on the team at the time too.
Right, they wanted to know who he really was. To them he was "The Flash", not Jason Garrick, husband to Joan Garrick. Plus theres the whole vibration thing, which is why Joan was always so happy.
The problem with this whole topic is that it goes along the lines of "don't discuss real world physics in comic books."
No... he relies entirely on the stupidity of humans not to figure it out. When you think about it, it's actually kind of insulting.
I believe the way it's always been rationalized is this.
Guy A: Hey, what do you think Superman's real name is?
Guy B: Huh? Kal-El.
Guy A: No no no, his real name.
Guy B: Uh, that is his real name. Kal-El. I saw it in the Daily Planet.
Guy A: Where do you think he grew up?
Guy B: Krypton, duh. Don't you read the papers?
Guy A: Where does he live though? He can't be saving people all the time.
Guy B: Well I don't know about that, I mean he was in Japan last night helping out that Katana chick, then he fought that Gorilla Grood or whatever in Keystone City like, an hour later. But still, he lives in the Fortress of Solitude in Antarctica. I hear he's got all kinds of crazy crap in there too.
Guy A: No no no, I mean where does he live? You think he lives in Metropolis?
Guy B: What? No. That's retarded. Stop being retarded. He lives in Antarctica at the Fortress of Solitude.
Guy A: Yeah but I could have sworn I saw a dude who looks just like Superman the other day.
Guy B: Just like him?
Guy A: Well.. I mean, he wasn't as tall. He kind of slouched I guess. And his hair wasn't really the same. And he was kind of awkward and kept knocking stuff over, but I mean, it looked like the same dude. Kind of in the nose.
Guy B: Yeah, well my wife tells me I've got the Flash's eyes and lips.
Basically, Superman's secret identity is known to the world. He's Kal-El, last son of the dead planet Krypton, and he lives in his Fortress of Solitude. His friends are Batman and Wonder Woman (who he may or may not be sleeping with, the rumors haven't been confirmed), and for fun he likes to build orphanages in Africa and stop tsunamis from destroying coastal villages.
So, given the public's perception of Superman, Clark's extreme physical control to mask his mannerisms, Superman robots, hologram technology, and all other kinds of crap that he uses to appear in two places at once, why would the majority of the public (who you have to remember, really aren't all that smart), think he's anything other than what he seems? He's hiding right out in the open. Anyone who looks too deeply into it will probably just get labeled a conspiracy nut, or looked at the way we look at people who are too obsessed with Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt.
Oh yeah, vibrating. There's still Starman though, unless he's constantly creating a small amount of glare to make himself impossible to photograph.
And all they'd have to do to find out an unmasked hero's identity is bring someone with photographic memory in.
Starman? Would you believe that the kind of wimpish, nerdy scientist guy Ted Knight is the same guy as the big, strong, strapping and courageous, not to mention powerful and friendly, Starman?
I'll answer it for you: No, you would not make the connection, because they are too dissimilar.
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Oh yeah, vibrating. There's still Starman though, unless he's constantly creating a small amount of glare to make himself impossible to photograph.
And all they'd have to do to find out an unmasked hero's identity is bring someone with photographic memory in.
Starman? Would you believe that the kind of wimpish, nerdy scientist guy Ted Knight is the same guy as the big, strong, strapping and courageous, not to mention powerful and friendly, Starman?
I'll answer it for you: No, you would not make the connection, because they are too dissimilar.
Would I think the Cosmic Rod was designed by a scientist? Yes. Perhaps the scientist who happens to look like Starman? Yes.
I don't believe Ted Knight was all that wimpy until his mental breakdown either, by which point he had retired as Starman anyway.
And seriously, have none of you read All-Star Superman?
Clark Kent is a walking disaster area, clumsy, goofy, slumped over, shy, etc. He's the anti-superman. It's all about body-language.
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nobody listened to me
Keith, I have a story for you.
On Saturday I went to see Darwyn Cooke and get his issue of Solo and my Absolute New Frontier signed. While he was signing them I told him how much I loved his art, and how I wished that pretty much everybody drew like him.
He chuckled and replied, "Well, unfortunatly there aren't many companies that want to publish art like this. The market seems to prefer the stuff my good buddy Steve [McNiven] is doing.
You know, thousands of lines shading the crotches."
Oh yeah, vibrating. There's still Starman though, unless he's constantly creating a small amount of glare to make himself impossible to photograph.
And all they'd have to do to find out an unmasked hero's identity is bring someone with photographic memory in.
Starman? Would you believe that the kind of wimpish, nerdy scientist guy Ted Knight is the same guy as the big, strong, strapping and courageous, not to mention powerful and friendly, Starman?
I'll answer it for you: No, you would not make the connection, because they are too dissimilar.
Would I think the Cosmic Rod was designed by a scientist? Yes. Perhaps the scientist who happens to look like Starman? Yes.
I don't believe Ted Knight was all that wimpy until his mental breakdown either, by which point he had retired as Starman anyway.
Is the Cosmic Rod's origin public knowledge? For all you know, it might be magical, or alien. You certainly wouldn't expect to see a highly advanced weapon like that in the forties. Ray guns were science-fiction stuff. Mystery men were big and awesome, you wouldn't have cared about where they got their powers or how, you'd just care about the fact that they liked beating the shit out of bad guys.
Oh yeah, vibrating. There's still Starman though, unless he's constantly creating a small amount of glare to make himself impossible to photograph.
And all they'd have to do to find out an unmasked hero's identity is bring someone with photographic memory in.
Starman? Would you believe that the kind of wimpish, nerdy scientist guy Ted Knight is the same guy as the big, strong, strapping and courageous, not to mention powerful and friendly, Starman?
I'll answer it for you: No, you would not make the connection, because they are too dissimilar.
Would I think the Cosmic Rod was designed by a scientist? Yes. Perhaps the scientist who happens to look like Starman? Yes.
I don't believe Ted Knight was all that wimpy until his mental breakdown either, by which point he had retired as Starman anyway.
Is the Cosmic Rod's origin public knowledge? For all you know, it might be magical, or alien. You certainly wouldn't expect to see a highly advanced weapon like that in the forties. Ray guns were science-fiction stuff. Mystery men were big and awesome, you wouldn't have cared about where they got their powers or how, you'd just care about the fact that they liked beating the shit out of bad guys.
Keep in mind that heroes were constantly yelling out the nature of their abilities during this era, and some portions of his origin were probably revealed to the public so the JSA could gain their trust.
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And seriously, have none of you read All-Star Superman?
Clark Kent is a walking disaster area, clumsy, goofy, slumped over, shy, etc. He's the anti-superman. It's all about body-language.
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nobody listened to me
Keith, I have a story for you.
On Saturday I went to see Darwyn Cooke and get his issue of Solo and my Absolute New Frontier signed. While he was signing them I told him how much I loved his art, and how I wished that pretty much everybody drew like him.
He chuckled and replied, "Well, unfortunatly there aren't many companies that want to publish art like this. The market seems to prefer the stuff my good buddy Steve [McNiven] is doing.
You know, thousands of lines shading the crotches."
I thought of you.
man I would like to meet him
not only because I like his stuff, but he could give me animation tips and all that
And seriously, have none of you read All-Star Superman?
Clark Kent is a walking disaster area, clumsy, goofy, slumped over, shy, etc. He's the anti-superman. It's all about body-language.
hughtron I said this
nobody listened to me
Keith, I have a story for you.
On Saturday I went to see Darwyn Cooke and get his issue of Solo and my Absolute New Frontier signed. While he was signing them I told him how much I loved his art, and how I wished that pretty much everybody drew like him.
He chuckled and replied, "Well, unfortunatly there aren't many companies that want to publish art like this. The market seems to prefer the stuff my good buddy Steve [McNiven] is doing.
You know, thousands of lines shading the crotches."
I thought of you.
man I would like to meet him
not only because I like his stuff, but he could give me animation tips and all that
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HOLY FUCK.
That's a lot of $$$.
And is it weird that I really like the Archie Sonic comic series?
You mean, on DC Earth, where there are hundreds of superheroes who conceal their identities? Where people have been unmasked many times?
Lois Lane is the worst reporter ever.
There's a big difference between not suspecting Superman has a secret identity and taking close-up pictures of him every day while working at the desk next to Clark Kent...
I'm look at you, Jimmy Olsen...
Are you joking? How is that ill spent? I've got a similar collection at home, though I've taken a break from action figures so I can focus more on 1:1 scale props and replicas, 1:6 scale figures and 1:4 statues. And that doesn't even count comics. I never once thought any of "hobby" money was ill spent.
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Batman's always seemed just as flimsy. He's obviously based in Gotham, he obviously has a ton of cash, and he's obviously a white male of a certain age. There's probably no more than half a dozen people who could possibly be Batman, and following the money or doing some checking up on timing could narrow it down pretty fast. You probably wouldn't even need to be a cop or a reporter to figure it out.
I'd have to go with the latter myself. Though I do wish I had that kind of hobby money. I'm in the process of moving right now, and other than my, like, 5 pieces of furniture, I just packed up just about everything I own into 6 or 7 small boxes and a suitcase.
I'm pretty sure Bane used that exact reasoning, along with facial/chin comparisons of all the fit, wealthy, men in Gotham to discern Batman's identity.
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Yes, but, you see
Superman doesn't wear a mask. There is nothing to unmask about him.
Exactly, he wears nothing to cover his face when he is out fighting crime. And when he is Clark Kent his disguise is a pair of glasses. His physique and face are the same. How did not one person ever figure out that the two men look exactly the same.
No... he relies entirely on the stupidity of humans not to figure it out. When you think about it, it's actually kind of insulting.
It's generally assumed that superheroes have identities outside of their lives as heroes, but apparently Superman is exempt for some reason.
I can buy them not thinking he was secretly Clark Kent simply because the identity is specifically designed to be the polar opposite of Superman and the idea that Superman would enjoy being Clark Kent, moreso than Superman simply having a secretly identity, is wildly implausible.
Right, they wanted to know who he really was. To them he was "The Flash", not Jason Garrick, husband to Joan Garrick. Plus theres the whole vibration thing, which is why Joan was always so happy.
The problem with this whole topic is that it goes along the lines of "don't discuss real world physics in comic books."
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And all they'd have to do to find out an unmasked hero's identity is bring someone with photographic memory in.
I believe the way it's always been rationalized is this.
Guy A: Hey, what do you think Superman's real name is?
Guy B: Huh? Kal-El.
Guy A: No no no, his real name.
Guy B: Uh, that is his real name. Kal-El. I saw it in the Daily Planet.
Guy A: Where do you think he grew up?
Guy B: Krypton, duh. Don't you read the papers?
Guy A: Where does he live though? He can't be saving people all the time.
Guy B: Well I don't know about that, I mean he was in Japan last night helping out that Katana chick, then he fought that Gorilla Grood or whatever in Keystone City like, an hour later. But still, he lives in the Fortress of Solitude in Antarctica. I hear he's got all kinds of crazy crap in there too.
Guy A: No no no, I mean where does he live? You think he lives in Metropolis?
Guy B: What? No. That's retarded. Stop being retarded. He lives in Antarctica at the Fortress of Solitude.
Guy A: Yeah but I could have sworn I saw a dude who looks just like Superman the other day.
Guy B: Just like him?
Guy A: Well.. I mean, he wasn't as tall. He kind of slouched I guess. And his hair wasn't really the same. And he was kind of awkward and kept knocking stuff over, but I mean, it looked like the same dude. Kind of in the nose.
Guy B: Yeah, well my wife tells me I've got the Flash's eyes and lips.
Basically, Superman's secret identity is known to the world. He's Kal-El, last son of the dead planet Krypton, and he lives in his Fortress of Solitude. His friends are Batman and Wonder Woman (who he may or may not be sleeping with, the rumors haven't been confirmed), and for fun he likes to build orphanages in Africa and stop tsunamis from destroying coastal villages.
So, given the public's perception of Superman, Clark's extreme physical control to mask his mannerisms, Superman robots, hologram technology, and all other kinds of crap that he uses to appear in two places at once, why would the majority of the public (who you have to remember, really aren't all that smart), think he's anything other than what he seems? He's hiding right out in the open. Anyone who looks too deeply into it will probably just get labeled a conspiracy nut, or looked at the way we look at people who are too obsessed with Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt.
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Dude, you are SO missing out.
Clark Kent is a walking disaster area, clumsy, goofy, slumped over, shy, etc. He's the anti-superman. It's all about body-language.
Starman? Would you believe that the kind of wimpish, nerdy scientist guy Ted Knight is the same guy as the big, strong, strapping and courageous, not to mention powerful and friendly, Starman?
I'll answer it for you: No, you would not make the connection, because they are too dissimilar.
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nobody listened to me
I don't believe Ted Knight was all that wimpy until his mental breakdown either, by which point he had retired as Starman anyway.
On Saturday I went to see Darwyn Cooke and get his issue of Solo and my Absolute New Frontier signed. While he was signing them I told him how much I loved his art, and how I wished that pretty much everybody drew like him.
He chuckled and replied, "Well, unfortunatly there aren't many companies that want to publish art like this. The market seems to prefer the stuff my good buddy Steve [McNiven] is doing.
You know, thousands of lines shading the crotches."
I thought of you.
Is the Cosmic Rod's origin public knowledge? For all you know, it might be magical, or alien. You certainly wouldn't expect to see a highly advanced weapon like that in the forties. Ray guns were science-fiction stuff. Mystery men were big and awesome, you wouldn't have cared about where they got their powers or how, you'd just care about the fact that they liked beating the shit out of bad guys.
Keep in mind that heroes were constantly yelling out the nature of their abilities during this era, and some portions of his origin were probably revealed to the public so the JSA could gain their trust.
man I would like to meet him
not only because I like his stuff, but he could give me animation tips and all that
we could become buddies
eat popcorn and watch cartoons
It's hot to death.
dangit
Why don't you just come out and say it?
You want to have sex with him.
Awesome sex with silver age heroes.
I've read New Frontier
just not the absolute