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  • NeoflyNeofly Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2006
    Neofly wrote:
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

    Probably that they can't be cached so need to be freshly loaded each time the page is opened.

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  • AllonAllon Registered User regular
    edited August 2006
    Aroduc wrote:
    Neofly wrote:
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

    Probably that they can't be cached so need to be freshly loaded each time the page is opened.

    Quotin' dis.

    Rotating sigs should be round up and shot.
    Unless they're NSFW, in which case they should be send to me first.

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  • RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited August 2006
    Aroduc wrote:
    Neofly wrote:
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

    Probably that they can't be cached so need to be freshly loaded each time the page is opened.

    hm, I think they COULD be cached if implemented the right way. But they probably are generally NOT implemented the right way.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2006
    was orthanc's avatar implemented the right way, way back when?

    this is just for curiosity's sake

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2006
    Ramius wrote:
    Aroduc wrote:
    Neofly wrote:
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

    Probably that they can't be cached so need to be freshly loaded each time the page is opened.

    hm, I think they COULD be cached if implemented the right way. But they probably are generally NOT implemented the right way.

    I'm not really sure you can have a rotating image use the browser cache in this context. The only way to do it would be to have the browser make a request for the image and then have the server spit back the actual image path (like /images/sig34.jpg), but since the only way to trick phpbb into reading an image rotator is to put a placeholder path into tag, your browser is always looking for that placeholder. And since the placeholder is constantly changing, it won't cache right. If it did, your sig would never rotate.  Here's a test one I set up on mcc's rotator, for example.sig.pl?Mono

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited August 2006
    Monoxide wrote:
    Ramius wrote:
    Aroduc wrote:
    Neofly wrote:
    What is so bad about rotating sigs?

    Probably that they can't be cached so need to be freshly loaded each time the page is opened.

    hm, I think they COULD be cached if implemented the right way. But they probably are generally NOT implemented the right way.

    I'm not really sure you can have a rotating image use the browser cache in this context. The only way to do it would be to have the browser make a request for the image and then have the server spit back the actual image path (like /images/sig34.jpg), but since the only way to trick phpbb into reading an image rotator is to put a placeholder path into tag, your browser is always looking for that placeholder. And since the placeholder is constantly changing, it won't cache right. If it did, your sig would never rotate.  Here's a test one I set up on mcc's rotator, for example.sig.pl?Mono

    The way the forum works though, is just inserting whatever you put in the tags into a <img> tag without bothering to check what it actually outputs. Most other boards tend to check that there's a valid file name attached. Submitting an avatar does, which is why mcc has to activate some special little thing so the source ishttp://sig.grumpybumpers.com/host/aroduc.gif instead of just http://sig.grumpybumpers.com/sig.pl?aroduc but not for general image tags, and by extension, sigs.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2006
    Okay, but if it's looking for aroduc.gif, it's going to see that hey, it's different now, and re-download the image. So that's actually the wrong way to go about doing it, if a right way is even possible.

    Edit: Though, it does seem that those are redirecting to my image host, so it could be doing it right. I don't know, and I definitely don't feel like testing it. Let's just say that sig rotators are okay as long as you don't fill them with really large images, like it has been.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2006
    Yeah, whenever I use rotating sigs, I try to keep them between 1 and 2kb.

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