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    BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Killjoy wrote: »
    holy fuck that is a terrible law pony

    you sure that's real?
    yes sir

    it was on digg maybe three days ago

    http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/27/canadas-coming-dmca.html

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.
    maybe for you
    but the ability to cherrypick the tracks you want and also the ability to mount a virtual cd drive instead of using actual cds would still make this a good option for people that want the convenience of buying music online

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    it'd be nice if Apple actually sold some ACC Lossless music.

    I've converted FLAC stuff into ACC Lossless on a number of occasions so I can play it on my iPod and it's pretty good.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    Fari how do I change the "convert to" format in iTunes?
    It's been so long since I set it up that I've forgotten

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    on the upside, C-61 will probably die

    because Canada is in a minority government where the two left-wing parties (the Liberals and the NDP) hold the majority of the seats

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    FabricateFabricate __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    I love FLAC so much.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    on the upside, C-61 will probably die

    because Canada is in a minority government where the two left-wing parties (the Liberals and the NDP) hold the majority of the seats

    yay for gridlock wooooo



    if you're coming in to the U.S., U.S. courts have pretty much already said that airport dudes can check your computer data and such for "illegal files" without a warrant or needing probable cause. pretty lame.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    on the upside, C-61 will probably die

    because Canada is in a minority government where the two left-wing parties (the Liberals and the NDP) hold the majority of the seats

    yay for gridlock wooooo



    if you're coming in to the U.S., U.S. courts have pretty much already said that airport dudes can check your computer data and such for "illegal files" without a warrant or needing probable cause. pretty lame.

    it's not gridlock

    in a minority government, the majority parties can actually strike down laws attempting to be passed by the ruling party

    and can even dissolve parliament and force a new election at the drop of the hat

    it's sort of a nice situation in a way because it forces the ruling party to compromise

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    JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    Faricazy wrote: »
    it'd be nice if Apple actually sold some ACC Lossless music.

    I've converted FLAC stuff into ACC Lossless on a number of occasions so I can play it on my iPod and it's pretty good.

    Why would you store lossless on an iPod? There's no way the sound quality on those earbuds is good enough to notice, and the space premium is much more noticeable.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    on the upside, C-61 will probably die

    because Canada is in a minority government where the two left-wing parties (the Liberals and the NDP) hold the majority of the seats

    yay for gridlock wooooo



    if you're coming in to the U.S., U.S. courts have pretty much already said that airport dudes can check your computer data and such for "illegal files" without a warrant or needing probable cause. pretty lame.

    it's not gridlock

    in a minority government, the majority parties can actually strike down laws attempting to be passed by the ruling party

    and can even dissolve parliament and force a new election at the drop of the hat

    it's sort of a nice situation in a way because it forces the ruling party to compromise

    oh, okay. either way C-61 would've been a law full of suck.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    Dru, that article is bullshit.
    MPAA Says No Proof Needed in P2P Copyright Infringement Lawsuits

    No. They are saying this:
    "The only purpose for placing copyrighted works in the shared folder is, of course, to 'share,' by making those works available to countless other P2P networks," the MPAA wrote.

    Which would indeed prove intent to commit copyright infringement. Should they sue the poor lady for millions of dollars? No. Are they wrong in saying that intent to illegally share songs should be enough because it can be impossible to track those she would be sharing it with? Not really.

    Copyright infringement is not an intent crime.

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Lol! wrote: »
    Fari how do I change the "convert to" format in iTunes?
    It's been so long since I set it up that I've forgotten
    iTunes only converts ACC to MP3, but it can import a regular disc to a variety of formats including ACC Lossless. It's in options.

    On the Mac i use an app called XLD to convert stuff.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    You can convert from MP3 to whatever your default format is, too
    Just right click and select "convert to AAC" or whatever yours is
    It's pretty nice

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    Faricazy wrote: »
    it'd be nice if Apple actually sold some ACC Lossless music.

    I've converted FLAC stuff into ACC Lossless on a number of occasions so I can play it on my iPod and it's pretty good.

    Why would you store lossless on an iPod? There's no way the sound quality on those earbuds is good enough to notice, and the space premium is much more noticeable.
    Well also to import it into iTunes.

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    BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    Faricazy wrote: »
    it'd be nice if Apple actually sold some ACC Lossless music.

    I've converted FLAC stuff into ACC Lossless on a number of occasions so I can play it on my iPod and it's pretty good.

    Why would you store lossless on an iPod? There's no way the sound quality on those earbuds is good enough to notice, and the space premium is much more noticeable.

    the space premium argument is a good one and one i subscribe to

    but if i had endless space, i'd go with flac too

    because i use an 8th inch to RCA jack to plug ingot my car system and home system

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    Furthermore, if you download music you already own in other formats, that's 100% legal. The RIAA is in a legally impossible situation. They can't technologically prove other people are infringing, and they can't use their own evidence since by virtue of their position, they only engage in authorized downloads.

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Meh, I have an 80GB ipod and a 160GB laptop drive and a 250GB external.

    I am not lacking for space at the moment.

    Though that iPod might overfill soon.

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    has anyone actually challenged the RIAA on any of their attempted lawsuits?

    I don't think they've won anything since Napster

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    JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    Only one, and it's in the appeal process because there is dispute over whether the judge properly instructed the jury.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Furthermore, if you download music you already own in other formats, that's 100% legal. The RIAA is in a legally impossible situation. They can't technologically prove other people are infringing, and they can't use their own evidence since by virtue of their position, they only engage in authorized downloads.

    as long as US courts aren't willing to slap the RIAA for their ex parte shenanigans, they can continue pulling this crap regardless of legality or "evidence" :(

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    BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    has anyone actually challenged the RIAA on any of their attempted lawsuits?

    I don't think they've won anything since Napster

    this is hot off the presses

    victory number two where the RIAA had to pay out

    http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/judge-orders-le.html

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Pony wrote: »
    has anyone actually challenged the RIAA on any of their attempted lawsuits?

    I don't think they've won anything since Napster

    http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/ is a good blog that gets regularly updated on RIAA legal proceedings.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2008
    I was not aware of those cases!

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    However my iPod won't take it.

    Why have two copies when one encoded in ACC Lossless will do just fine.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I was not aware of those cases!

    hey Munkus, what year of law school are you in now?

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    jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    But there is when you re-rip it with a lossy format.

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    JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    jwalk wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    But there is when you re-rip it with a lossy format.

    So re-rip to a lossless format, if you care so much.

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    jwalk wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    But there is when you re-rip it with a lossy format.
    Why does it have to be a lossy format?

    And either way, if you're burning a disc from 128kbps AAC files, ripping it back in 128kpbs AAC won't damage the quality.

    (for the record 128kpbs AAC is equivalent to about 192kpbs MP3)

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    Janin wrote: »
    jwalk wrote: »
    right, and if you're gonna buy a blank CD and spend the time burning it and ripping it back, and losequality in the process... might as well just buy the damn CD in the first place.

    There's no quality loss burning to a CD.
    But there is when you re-rip it with a lossy format.

    So re-rip to a lossless format, if you care so much.

    Such as Apple Lossless which you can set as your default import format

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    BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    i felt these were appropriate for the thread

    propaganda_in_the_internet_age.jpg

    and the vastly superior

    121003609765iq6.jpg

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    One Thousand CablesOne Thousand Cables An absence of thought Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I don't mind rockin' out with the Man. I mean, look at that bitchin' hat and monocle are you kidding me

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    I rock out with my cock out, does that count

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    BomanTheBearBomanTheBear Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    yeah, but communism actually seems interested in what you're doing onscreen

    the man is content to just look fly

    and dude, i know for a FACT that if i'm rocking out with my cock out, i'd prefer it not be with the man

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    JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    What's going on in those two pictures:

    In the first, you and Communism are listening to pirated mp3s.

    In the second, The Man has no headphones on. This is because you're not listening to music, you're just scowling at the screen trying to figure out why the music you bought isn't playing. The Man knows that eventually, you will give up and just pay him more money.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2008
    And they said you can do the same thing that you can do with iTunes
    Rerip it and remove DRM

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I don't think i've ever had a single issue with music DRM of any sort

    i am saying that as both a purchaser of CDs and as a huge pirate

    fuck buying things digitally

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I actually still buy CDs but I don't do it very often.

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    FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    yeah i only buy CDs

    if i'm paying for something i want to actually own the damn thing in real life

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