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Computer Overheating

tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Lately I have been having a problem with my PC whenever I dont use the integrated card. When I bought

this computer (a Dell Inspiron 530) way back last December I also bought an ATI Radeon X1650 graphics card.

Though the power requirements for the card said i needed 350w power supply and I only had 305w, I did not really have any problems using

it until around May, when things started to get hot. Now if I try to use it my computer will turn itself off in about

five minutes. The integrated card works fine, but it simply isnt good enough to run most of the games I

play. Before I go out of my way to buying stuff I wanted to know what my options were to fix this

problem (getting a stronger power supply, or anything else that costs money.) I'll try my best to come up

with any other information about the system if needed. A permanent solution would

be greatly appreciated!

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  • .kbf?.kbf? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If things used to be OK and now they're not then something is wrong with one of the parts.

    What are the computer specs and is it the GPU thats overheating or the CPU?

    Are the fans on the GPU and CPU heatsinks moving?

    If the motherboard has onboard video try just taking the videocard out and seeing if it still reboots after a couple seconds.

    After determining which part is the culprit we can move on to aftermarket cooling and the like although I'm going to make a prediction and say that at least one of your components is toast.

    A computer doesn't just randomly start overheating unless somethings broken.

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  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Well he did say there hasn't been a problem until the room temperature got up.

    That said, kbf's advice is sound. As a band-aid solution, you can open your computer case and keep it open and see if that helps (and when you do it, check if there's excessive dust in the grille surrounding the display adapter fan).

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  • dgs095dgs095 Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Yeah i second a part being faulty.
    if you won't void a warrently or something just turn it on with the case open and see if everything looks normal-fans spinning and what not. If your convinced it is overheating you could try cooling it. I just used a large upright fan, opened my case and aimed it right in there. Cooling with the fan didn't seem to fix my problem at all, so I figured it wasn't heat related.

    I ended up switching out a stick of ram and it fixed my problem (computer lock up completely after a few minutes of gaming). If you have more then one stick of ram and you can game with less then all your ram, you could try switching them out to see if one is faulty. Ditto for hard drive/power supply or any part you have an extra of really.

    Does it affect only one game or does it affects all games and your fairly sure it is hard ware related? What exactly happens when it crashes?

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    .kbf? wrote: »
    If things used to be OK and now they're not then something is wrong with one of the parts.

    What are the computer specs and is it the GPU thats overheating or the CPU?

    Are the fans on the GPU and CPU heatsinks moving?

    If the motherboard has onboard video try just taking the videocard out and seeing if it still reboots after a couple seconds.

    After determining which part is the culprit we can move on to aftermarket cooling and the like although I'm going to make a prediction and say that at least one of your components is toast.

    A computer doesn't just randomly start overheating unless somethings broken.

    the specs are:

    Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor E4600 (2MB L2 Cache,2.2GHz,800 FSB

    windows XP professional

    2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs

    250GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cacheâ„¢

    Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 ( I'm using an ATI Radeon X1650)

    305w power supply


    I never thought to chekc the GPU for movement, but i know the CPU ones do

    Im pretty sure the problem is the video card though, since the only time i have a problem with overheating

    is if im plugged into it

    im not near the computer in question but i will be soon so if anything else needs to addressed ill be able to

    help make a better picture of things

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2008
    http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

    download it, install it and run it. Run it with both the integrated card and the new card you have. See what the temperatures say.

    Then report back here.

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    dgs095 wrote: »
    Does it affect only one game or does it affects all games and your fairly sure it is hard ware related? What exactly happens when it crashes?


    Well at first it only acted up when I played Age of Conan, otherwise the other games worked fine (team

    fortress 2, the counter-strike games) but now i dont even have to start a game to make it overheat, and, as I have said before, only happens when i start using the bought video card

    one thing i brought up to my cousin who fixes stuff like this is that theres dust around the card's fan, but he said it probably wouldnt give me this bad a problem. Does anyone else agree?

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  • RankenphileRankenphile Passersby were amazed by the unusually large amounts of blood.Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2008
    dust is almost always bad, and is simple to fix

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  • .kbf?.kbf? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    dust is almost always bad, and is simple to fix

    This.

    On a side note if the GPU got extremely hot once it could have toasted the thermal paste, which is why, after one bad overheat, you might get continual overheating (FYI I've only seen this happen once).

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    dust is almost always bad, and is simple to fix

    ok ill give it a good cleaning, but im gonne be out for awhile so i wont be able to report in until much later

    thanks for all the posts so far!

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  • Aurora BorealisAurora Borealis runs and runs and runs away BrooklynRegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    My laptop had a fan just give up and quit a while back, and I had a similar problem. Couldn't play anything more complicated than cakemania. Boy was that lame.
    My woes were in the computer itself though, not an outside video card like yours seems to be.

    I knew it had to be a fan because a) it was super warm to touch and I couldn't hear the gentle whirring anymore, and b) it ran much better when I set it up atop a box fan.

    Since it was a hardware issue my warranty covered it, and they fixed it without it costing me a dime. Not even postage, they sent me a nice cushiony box to send it in even. I mailed that sucker out and got it back within three days, runs like a dream now. I have an Acer and not a Dell though, so YMMV.

    I totally took it apart to see if I could look at the problem too, but the fans in mine are buried way in the back, under a dozen things that were beyond my expertise to move. Also like a million tiny screws. I managed to put most of them back properly... man I love unscrewing things.

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    UPDATE: So I have done what Rank said and cleaned the fan off and gotten that speedfan program and so far everything seems to be running fine. I heard a weird machine beep sound a few minutes ago (though it was different from the sound i usually hear when the computers gonna restart) so i took a quick screen shot of the speed fan analysis:
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    but i dont think anything looks really bad, and I havent seen any of the numbers go higher than the ones shown

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  • SoaLSoaL fantastic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    That is some pretty high CPU usage, I think. Were you in a game and just alt tabbed or something?

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Especially to have the first core maxed, and the second one > 75%

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  • .kbf?.kbf? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Under load those temps are fine but that -11 is making me think some of those temps may be inaccurate.

    Also, why are the VCores different? I thought the Intel voltage stepping applied to the whole CPU not individual cores...

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    SoaL wrote: »
    That is some pretty high CPU usage, I think. Were you in a game and just alt tabbed or something?

    i was updating age of conan and looking at the forums, thats about it

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    ok it crashed again, and now i remember when this stuff usually happened: whenever i made a new character on age of conan. The machine will usually beep twice and shut itself, and wont work again properly unless i let the machine sit for a few minutes before turning it on again. before the pc started closing everything around i got a chance to look at the numbers on spped fan and the temps were even lower than the ones in the picture above. Something that i noticed while in the game though was when the beeping occurred the PC became dead quiet, like it wasnt running anything doing anything. could this be some sort of hard drive problem?

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  • .kbf?.kbf? Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    tsplitter wrote: »
    ok it crashed again, and now i remember when this stuff usually happened: whenever i made a new character on age of conan. The machine will usually beep twice and shut itself, and wont work again properly unless i let the machine sit for a few minutes before turning it on again. before the pc started closing everything around i got a chance to look at the numbers on spped fan and the temps were even lower than the ones in the picture above. Something that i noticed while in the game though was when the beeping occurred the PC became dead quiet, like it wasnt running anything doing anything. could this be some sort of hard drive problem?

    Hmm... what you've described sounds more like a PSU issue. Reseat all your wires just to be sure.

    Also what motherboard do you have? You can probably look up in the fault codes what two consecutive beeps means.

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  • adamadam Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Put a fridge next to it and open the door, and a window for excess freon.

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