Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited July 2007
Considering that everything he is saying is total hearsay
I don't exactly understand the significance of his coming forward.
The evidence, man.
The evidence.
He's just got enough to get the pin booked but that's about it.
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Suicide SlydeHaunts your dreamsof mountains sunk below the seaRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
Yea, the evidence factor bugged me as well. I figured if Moon Knight can take police to the location where he was shot and identify the lackeys that shot him, it would be enough to pick him up, but it's not like the Kingpin doesn't have the money to post bail.
Yea, the evidence factor bugged me as well. I figured if Moon Knight can take police to the location where he was shot and identify the lackeys that shot him, it would be enough to pick him up, but it's not like the Kingpin doesn't have the money to post bail.
It had more to do with his reputation, Ultimate Kingpin has yet to be charged/accused with a single crime, outside the police and the lower classes, he´s a pretty famous self-made "bussinessman"... and the police were waiting for something like this, so that they could dig up all the shit they know he did and put it out.
Think OJ Simpson, yeah he walked away, but his reputation never recovered.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited July 2007
He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
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He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
I could have sworn I heard of a pedophile being convicted of child pornography after a burglar went to the police with his discovery.
I read your statement wrong - it's damn early still for me :P In that case, the evidence could be admissable. In a superhero world though, I don't imagine it would be tough to prove that the hero was working as an agent for the police department when they gathered the evidence.
He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
I could have sworn I heard of a pedophile being convicted of child pornography after a burglar went to the police with his discovery.
Wouldn't the police then be easily able to get a warrant based on this information, and thus obtain the evidence with ease and legality?
Guys, I been thinking about getting back into comics after a few years, and specially US. I actually have all the issues up to Issue 50 or so. Would you guys recomend just picking up trades in order, or is there one trade I must pick up due to it's awesomeness?
Guys, I been thinking about getting back into comics after a few years, and specially US. I actually have all the issues up to Issue 50 or so. Would you guys recomend just picking up trades in order, or is there one trade I must pick up due to it's awesomeness?
Buy them all up to the newest one than get comics.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
I could have sworn I heard of a pedophile being convicted of child pornography after a burglar went to the police with his discovery.
Wouldn't the police then be easily able to get a warrant based on this information, and thus obtain the evidence with ease and legality?
They can't get a warrant based on illegally obtained evidence or information.
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He got off the murder rap because the tapes were obtained via an illegal search and seizure. So, to be fair, it's not like it'd be particularly hard to get that case thrown out.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
I could have sworn I heard of a pedophile being convicted of child pornography after a burglar went to the police with his discovery.
Wouldn't the police then be easily able to get a warrant based on this information, and thus obtain the evidence with ease and legality?
They can't get a warrant based on illegally obtained evidence or information.
No but it is pretty easy to bullshit a warrent based on some other random thing. Like suspicious activity going on, around, or inside the house.
If the police have something lawfully in their possession, even though it was illegally obtained it can still be used as evidence. For example a thief steals your favorite stuffed teddy bear. The cops find the thief and recover the teddy bear. It is legally in their possession until the owner can get it back (needed as evidence etc to put the guy away). If a dog happens to walk by and happens to sniff the kilo of coke hidden in the teddy bear, this provides probably cause to search the bear, find the coke, and arrest you with possession with the intent to distribute.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited August 2007
That's an unrelated example, though.
You can't steal the teddy bear from my house and then turn it in to the police.
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Suicide SlydeHaunts your dreamsof mountains sunk below the seaRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
Ok so the previous charges didn't stick. Is there any hope of the charges going anywhere on the Kingpin this time? I mean it's pretty hard to convict someone of attempted murder when all you have is witness testimony from a crazy bastard.
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
edited September 2007
I really don't know how I feel about the new artist.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
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Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
I really don't know how I feel about the new artist.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
Me, I don't have any problems with the new artist. I think he's been doing great with this first arc. It's just strange having a new artist at all after such a long time. I have to remind myself that this is Ultimate Spider-Man, because it doesn't look like the USM I know.
I really don't know how I feel about the new artist.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
Me, I don't have any problems with the new artist. I think he's been doing great with this first arc. It's just strange having a new artist at all after such a long time. I have to remind myself that this is Ultimate Spider-Man, because it doesn't look like the USM I know.
It's probably because I'm so used to Bagley's art, but I'm not digging the new artists Spider-man. He just looks like 616 Spider-man. I always liked how USM actually looked like a teenager/kid.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited October 2007
Go read NEXTWAVE and then you'll be ready to give Stuart Immonen a pass for not being Bagley (and yes, I also miss Spidey's teenaged hero look, but Immonen is just settling in....)
Suicide SlydeHaunts your dreamsof mountains sunk below the seaRegistered Userregular
edited October 2007
I think Immonen does a great job showing Peter but as Spidey it's like he has aged 10 years, I mean he looks absolutely massive. He has a style that isn't Bagely but keeps the universe feeling visually familiar. As far as Death of Goblin is going, I'm not sure, it's good but not near what I should be expecting from Ultimate Spider-Man.
I really like Immonen's work here. The panel with Peter's line about protecting May was great. It's too bad they re-used the same May panel right after that.
I really don't know how I feel about the new artist.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
Me, I don't have any problems with the new artist. I think he's been doing great with this first arc. It's just strange having a new artist at all after such a long time. I have to remind myself that this is Ultimate Spider-Man, because it doesn't look like the USM I know.
It's probably because I'm so used to Bagley's art, but I'm not digging the new artists Spider-man. He just looks like 616 Spider-man. I always liked how USM actually looked like a teenager/kid.
One of the TPBs has notes all over Bagley's art(written by him, of course) about how Spidey and Pete should look similar, but keeping in mind that the Spider-man costume is tighter fitting then Pete's clothes. And shit like how Spidey is thinner than in 616 because he hasn't spent years building muscle by swinging around town.
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I really don't know how I feel about the new artist.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
Me, I don't have any problems with the new artist. I think he's been doing great with this first arc. It's just strange having a new artist at all after such a long time. I have to remind myself that this is Ultimate Spider-Man, because it doesn't look like the USM I know.
It's probably because I'm so used to Bagley's art, but I'm not digging the new artists Spider-man. He just looks like 616 Spider-man. I always liked how USM actually looked like a teenager/kid.
One of the TPBs has notes all over Bagley's art(written by him, of course) about how Spidey and Pete should look similar, but keeping in mind that the Spider-man costume is tighter fitting then Pete's clothes. And shit like how Spidey is thinner than in 616 because he hasn't spent years building muscle by swinging around town.
Yeah, there were also notes about how he should have big hands and feet, as he hadn't grown into his body yet.
So, how come the 115 variant cover had a goddamn zombie spider-man when that had nothing to do with the issue?
In any case, I liked the issue. Shadowcat's solo hero costume was pretty nifty.
Golden YakBurnished BovineThe sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered Userregular
edited November 2007
It's a Marvel Zombies 2 promotion. Marvel Zombies 2 started up in October (which was designated as Marvel Zombies Month), so most Marvel book are going to have MZ variants to help promote it.
Because Marvel Zombies didn't have enough exposure before.
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That takes ballllllllls.
I don't exactly understand the significance of his coming forward.
The evidence, man.
The evidence.
He's just got enough to get the pin booked but that's about it.
It had more to do with his reputation, Ultimate Kingpin has yet to be charged/accused with a single crime, outside the police and the lower classes, he´s a pretty famous self-made "bussinessman"... and the police were waiting for something like this, so that they could dig up all the shit they know he did and put it out.
Think OJ Simpson, yeah he walked away, but his reputation never recovered.
My digital art! http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=8168
My pen and paper art! http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=7462
But other than that yeah.
I thought it would have only been illegal if the police had ordered it. Isn't all evidence, even stolen materials, admissible when it's obtained by law enforcement courtesy of a third party??
People still have rights. I can't just sneak into someones house, take the evidence without them knowing it and turn it in for a trial. As much as it pains me to say, even shitheads have constitutional rights that can't be violated.
I could have sworn I heard of a pedophile being convicted of child pornography after a burglar went to the police with his discovery.
Wouldn't the police then be easily able to get a warrant based on this information, and thus obtain the evidence with ease and legality?
Buy them all up to the newest one than get comics.
They can't get a warrant based on illegally obtained evidence or information.
No but it is pretty easy to bullshit a warrent based on some other random thing. Like suspicious activity going on, around, or inside the house.
Oh god don't do that, don't summon him here.
You can't steal the teddy bear from my house and then turn it in to the police.
I mean, the in-costume parts all look great, but the normals often look like they don't have lips and eyebrows.
Me, I don't have any problems with the new artist. I think he's been doing great with this first arc. It's just strange having a new artist at all after such a long time. I have to remind myself that this is Ultimate Spider-Man, because it doesn't look like the USM I know.
It's probably because I'm so used to Bagley's art, but I'm not digging the new artists Spider-man. He just looks like 616 Spider-man. I always liked how USM actually looked like a teenager/kid.
One of the TPBs has notes all over Bagley's art(written by him, of course) about how Spidey and Pete should look similar, but keeping in mind that the Spider-man costume is tighter fitting then Pete's clothes. And shit like how Spidey is thinner than in 616 because he hasn't spent years building muscle by swinging around town.
Yeah, there were also notes about how he should have big hands and feet, as he hadn't grown into his body yet.
So, how come the 115 variant cover had a goddamn zombie spider-man when that had nothing to do with the issue?
In any case, I liked the issue. Shadowcat's solo hero costume was pretty nifty.
I hate the whole Zombie Variant Bandwagon.
I was reading the whole issue trying to decide when Pete was going to turn into a zombie.
Because Marvel Zombies didn't have enough exposure before.
I was just curious is all...
July 21st seems a bit early for Halloween.
They've been doing this for a few months, there just happened to be a few extra in October.