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UPHEAVAL!! BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM!
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So Rene Marie pulled a fast one.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,375164,00.html
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Singer Opts for 'Black National Anthem' Over 'Star-Spangled Banner'
Wednesday, July 02, 2008
A jazz singer shocked some Denver residents after replacing the words to the national anthem with those of the "Black National Anthem" during the annual State of the City address this week.
Rene Marie was asked to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper delivered the annual address on Tuesday. Instead, she sang the lyrics of "Lift Every Voice and Sing" — a hymn commonly referred to as the "Black National Anthem" — to the tune of the national anthem, MyFOXColorado.com reported.
"If anyone has got a right to be angry it's probably me," Hickenlooper told the station. "I guess what I feel most is just deeply disappointed."
The mayor said only Marie, her husband and a musical adviser knew what the local jazz singer had in mind.
"What she said was that she was very sorry, that she meant no disrespect, that she was trying to make a creative expression of her love for the country," Hickenlooper said.
But the change in lyrics angered many residents, including City Councilman Charlie Brown.
"I was mad," he told MyFOXColorado.com. "I almost walked off the stage."
Brown said the matter needs to be addressed. "There is no substitute for the national anthem."
After hearing this on various network news stations and reading some reactions online, I can't help but think "BFD."
She made a political and artistic point to turn some head and ellicit discussions regarding the Black American experience and are larger national pride. Good for her. Although I do think it is borderline annoying -- at most.
So,
Is it un-patriotic for Rene to have done what she did?
Or, are those incensed to rail against Rene Marie simply showing their white-American* asses?
*No I'm not trolling here, just referring our conservative majority in which being white is ubiquitous.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,375164,00.html
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FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.
Singer Opts for 'Black National Anthem' Over 'Star-Spangled Banner'
Wednesday, July 02, 2008
A jazz singer shocked some Denver residents after replacing the words to the national anthem with those of the "Black National Anthem" during the annual State of the City address this week.
Rene Marie was asked to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" before Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper delivered the annual address on Tuesday. Instead, she sang the lyrics of "Lift Every Voice and Sing" — a hymn commonly referred to as the "Black National Anthem" — to the tune of the national anthem, MyFOXColorado.com reported.
"If anyone has got a right to be angry it's probably me," Hickenlooper told the station. "I guess what I feel most is just deeply disappointed."
The mayor said only Marie, her husband and a musical adviser knew what the local jazz singer had in mind.
"What she said was that she was very sorry, that she meant no disrespect, that she was trying to make a creative expression of her love for the country," Hickenlooper said.
But the change in lyrics angered many residents, including City Councilman Charlie Brown.
"I was mad," he told MyFOXColorado.com. "I almost walked off the stage."
Brown said the matter needs to be addressed. "There is no substitute for the national anthem."
After hearing this on various network news stations and reading some reactions online, I can't help but think "BFD."
She made a political and artistic point to turn some head and ellicit discussions regarding the Black American experience and are larger national pride. Good for her. Although I do think it is borderline annoying -- at most.
So,
Is it un-patriotic for Rene to have done what she did?
Or, are those incensed to rail against Rene Marie simply showing their white-American* asses?
*No I'm not trolling here, just referring our conservative majority in which being white is ubiquitous.
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Maybe I'm just cynical.
EDIT: I just realized what "BFD" means.
So, yeah, she didn't sing the Star-Spangled Banner. That was a tiiiiny little bit douchey of her because that wasn't really the time or place for a personal statement; but ultimately it's not worth the uproar. What's worse is all the white folks who are going to grumble about how the black folks don't respect the country or some shit like that.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Your not the only one. I'm Canadian, and if someone sang some other song when they were suppose to sing the national anthem, I would consider it trolling, a dumb stunt. I would not call the singer unpatriotic, I'd call him/her a sleazy sell-out.
Of course, your national anthem is awesome.
Yeah, and if there were some major injustice that she was protesting then she'd ethically get a free pass in my book. Like if the Denver mayor were engaged in some flagrantly racist activity, for instance. Singing the black national anthem at a speech given by David Duke? That would be classy. Or if this had been done right at the height of the civil rights movement, or right after MLK's death. That would have made sense, too. This is just silly, and IMO counterproductive.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
On another note, why does our national Anthem suck? I ask merely out of curiosity. I always liked it, especially coming from the context of how and when it was written.
How insensitive, now they have to get their fix somewhere else!
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I like the song. I hate the tendency by most everyone who sings it to turn it into a yodeling endurance contest.
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I hate you.
Does that mean he owes you $40?
Baseball games are the worst in that respect.
I refer you now to my sig.
my master plan is coming together nicely
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Edit: Maybe that's why it sucks. It's hard to sing-along to.
Seriously. I hate how one person sings it and everyone else just stands there and listens like it's some goddamn religious ritual. It's the national anthem, everyone should be singing.
It's rambling and doesn't have much of a good continual tone or beat or whatever the hell the musical term is. Plus you only ever hear the first verse. There are four others and it just keeps going. And don't get me wrong, most national anthems are pretty shitty we aren't unique in that regard.
It wasn't even that great of a battle either. You'd think it would have been some amazing victory from the Revolutionary War or something, but no, it was from the fucking War of 1812 in a battle that we won mostly by default because we were defending against some guns that couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Eh. I like Canada's a lot. I also really like the Soviet/Chechen anthem, and I'll say that I probably like the Russian one, though I can't say for certain since they seem to change it every bloody year.
And even if it was, we win is not really the kind of message I want in my national anthem.
A piece whose best known rendition was as the signature song of a blind man of color.
Yes.
EDIT: God Bless America is often substituted, but that's not very good either.
As for the song substitution, I say it was unprofessional of her not to sing the song she was asking to sing, but it's definitely not deserving of even the slightest outcry.
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Although Lift Every Voice and Sing is about pretty much the same as the Star Spangled Banner, I can see why a lot of people got upset. I wouldn't have liked it myself, and I'm a black guy.
Your'e thinking of God Bless America.
I'd nominate Stranger Than Fiction by Bad Religion myself, but I suspect that wouldn't fly with the 64-and-up demographic.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I see what you did there
With feral and jeffe on this, but I have to say the lyrics quoted would make a much nicer anthem IMO.
Yeah, because it's only ever played in key B-flat-whatthefuck.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
uh
what?
What was the cause and perseverance behind invading Canada?
And losing?
Agreed. Whenever I substitute teach for a middle school or above and lead my class to our school-wide pledge of allegiance an odd-smile always creeps across my face which is always shared among quite a few other students. The irony of our pledge is shared class-wide.
It's not that I hate America or wish to show unpatriotic disapproval to a group of teenage students it's simply that I don't worship my country. I don't worship anything.
Nah, Winona's Big Brown Beaver. What's more American than thinly veiled sexual allusions and references to fast food?
Awesom'd.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
"Proud to be an American" pisses me off, because I am proud to be an American, but the song just makes me think of blind militant jingo bullshit.