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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
Compositionally you have created the feeling of spinning in a counter-clockwise direction in my opinion.

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edited December 2008
cakemikz wrote: »
Compositionally you have created the feeling of spinning in a counter-clockwise direction in my opinion.

Yeah, spinning/moving in general is really what I was going for, I should've clarified. Counter-clockwise or clockwise both work for me.
Tam wrote: »
edit: actually I think maybe just the space between the bottom wing and tail is the problem area. Making that negative space a somewhat simpler shape would help.

Too complex? I kinda feel the same way about it. I'll make a version where that shape is less complex, and see if that helps.

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• ancient crust Registered User regular
edited December 2008
Mmm yes I'd agree with these two chaps.

Also, I don't know if it's getting compressed or not, but the curves just don't seem like they flow from one to the next.

Still as a logo, it works really well, almost like one of those stamps used to seal wax on letters.

• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
cakemikz wrote: »
Compositionally you have created the feeling of spinning in a counter-clockwise direction in my opinion.

Yeah, spinning/moving in general is really what I was going for, I should've clarified. Counter-clockwise or clockwise both work for me.
Tam wrote: »
edit: actually I think maybe just the space between the bottom wing and tail is the problem area. Making that negative space a somewhat simpler shape would help.

Too complex? I kinda feel the same way about it. I'll make a version where that shape is less complex, and see if that helps.

I'd say lop off the tail section that branches out toward the wing. You might have to restructure the tail a bit after that though. I think maybe given the nature of the phoenix, you might want to position the head as high as possible- "rising from the ashes" and all that.

edit: hope you don't mind the adjustment, but here's my idea

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• Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
Tam's definitely reads more like a bird - on the original it's difficult to associate the head with any position but the top of the circle.

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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
it automatically makes me think of mortal kombat
which isn't to say that i don't like it, but i think the comparison would come up from more than me

i love the colours, and i think circle logos are very attractive, but the ragged edges on the bird aren't doing it for me at all

mully on
edited December 2008
The light gray parts on the sides are what the background will consist of.

Does the logo read at this level? I heard'd your comments about it...I'm going to smooth it out a bit more, turn the whole thing so the head is higher up, and simplify the negative shapes a bit.

boop boop

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• ancient crust Registered User regular
edited December 2008
The page looks nice and if you tinker with the logo a bit more I think you'll have a winner.

The white on the egdes is a bit jarring but I dunno too much about web design either so...

• Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
It looks good, but I'm not sure what the purpose of the borders is.

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• perth, ausRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
I thought it was to show what the background would look like on large monitors/resolutions?

desperaterobots on
edited December 2008
I thought it was to show what the background would look like on large monitors/resolutions?

Bingo!

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• perth, ausRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
Huzzah! Although I know the first thing my web-coder friend would say if I showed him that design would be 'I can't do a drop shadow on the background! Simplifyyyyy, man!'

It looks okay otherwise, do you have any dummy content to show us how your grids/columns will work?

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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
One lesson that I learned while putting my site together, is that using those diffused drop shadows over a patterned background is very difficult to get to line up on multiple resolutions. That is, if you plan on centering it...which I assume you do.

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• perth, ausRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
Yeah, I wouldn't bother trying with the drop shadow thing if I were you.

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edited October 2021
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• ancient crust Registered User regular
edited December 2008
coolio

• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
Hey ND I thought i'd let you know that the WoW lady character attempt is really cool.

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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
But it could use bigger shoulder pads.

4:200000000

Edit: onnneeeeee

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• Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited December 2008
With regards to drop shadows; have you tried transparent PNGs? I think the number of people using IE7 may be high enough to give it a go.

• perth, ausRegistered User regular
edited December 2008
Better yet, lose the drop shadow. It doesn't break the look of the site without it.

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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
I like it, but yeah I don't think there needs to be that much going on for the borders. I'd rather see the drop shadow remain though with a mellower pattern.

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edited October 2021
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• Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited December 2008
Seems the background image isn't loading, which might be where Shiboe's confusion is coming from; looking at the source (tables? tsk...), it seems the BG.jpg file isn't where it ought to be.

• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
I like the look of the site, but as Crawdaddio mentioned, tables are a bad choice to base your site on, maybe learn how to use DIV ID's and DIV Classes with CSS for your design.

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• Registered User regular
edited December 2008
Yeah if this is also supposed to be a web design portfolio then I would be more cautious about how you choose to approach it. If it is only supposed to be an art portfolio then who gives a shit if you use tables. I use a giant image map because I am friggin lazy.

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• Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited December 2008
Oh, yeah? I'm so lazy I don't even have work to put up on a site I don't even have.

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• Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited December 2008
Actually, it still doesn't seem to load for me; loading the image as it's pointed out in the source shows a red x, so that may have something to do with it. There's the same problem with the background on the update section (on the right side, where the text is), which I wouldn't have noticed if I weren't bored enough to go through your layout to DIV-ify it (more on that in a bit). It's an odd problem, because if I type in a file which doesn't exist, it shows a 404 page, whereas with those two background files, it's a red x--I don't know what that may mean, but hopefully it helps figure out what's up.

Anyway, as to DIVs versus tables, I agree, it doesn't really make that much of a difference; as I understood it, the justification is a bit pedantic, namely that html shouldn't be used to define layout, but rather to lay out structure. As long as it comes out the way you want in all the major browsers, it doesn't make any difference. That said, I will say that aside from the headache of making the DIVs look the same in every browser and for every resolution, they do make the content easier to read, so that if you wanted to go back and change something, you don't have to go digging through myriad TDs and TRs.

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• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
All I get is a line of text repeating the URL when I click those links. I'm digging the website design though.

Flay on
edited January 2009
Alright, I just checked the permissions on the files, apparently (for some reason) they weren't what I imagine they should've been. I just changed them, is the problem still happening?

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• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
Yes, I'm afraid.

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• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
In Mozilla Firefox and Opera neither of those two JPG's appear, but in Safari they do, very odd.

You might want to try validating your code, see if it meets up with the W3C's standards, it might give a reason as to why certain things are happening as well.

Hope that helps.

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BBOY KRILLIN's ART cause i likes to draws an stuff
edited October 2021
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• Tacoma, WARegistered User, ClubPA regular
edited January 2009
I don't think it would be the code, seeing as the links themselves seem not to work. Aside from permissions, which you've changed, I can't imagine what might be causing it...

• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
Kind of jumping in out of nowhere --- The background file isn't in CMYK mode is it? Apparently Safari will view CMYK jpegs, whereas internet explorer / firefox won't/dont.

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• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
I was having this issue too with firefox. >> you just shrugged it off when I said the images wouldn't load.

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• Registered User regular
edited January 2009
that's quite odd.

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edited October 2021
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NightDragon on
edited January 2009
PROX TO THE RESCUE!!!

*fanfare and confetti*

For whatever reason (actually, just now I remembered something weird going on when I tried to upload those two files originally) the files were corrupted...Safari still was able to load them (which is why "corrupted files" never would've crossed my mind). I re-saved the files in Photoshop, deleted them off the server and re-uploaded them (as prox suggested after he noticed they were corrupted), and then I cleaned up my CSS and HTML.....and now it loads properly in Firefox and IE 6!

I imagine it works fine in Opera and IE 7, too, then...things aren't too complex just yet

All hail the great proxinator.

 CELEBRATORY TOTP [/edit]

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