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I need something epic, and I need to cry

isaac17isaac17 Registered User regular
edited July 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Alright, basically I've been feeling the rising need for a source of 'epic' entertainment, and it's gotten to the point where it's all I really think about over the last few days. I watched Lord of the Rings 1 tonight, and while that was in the area of what I'm looking for, I've seen it too many times for it to effect me like I want. Basically, I need either a new book, a new game, or a new SOMETHING. I'm really looking to be completely pulled away again, and I really want it to be emotionally captivating (don't call me a pussy, I just like it when a story pulls me in so much that it actually makes me cry).

I just quit my second job that I've been working on weekends, so I have a bunch more time now, and I'm not going to college until september. I'd really like something handheld that I can take everywhere, so I've been shopping around for handheld systems, but none really have that perfect game for me. I think a Final Fantasy that I haven't played might be the answer, but I'm not really sure.

Some things I've been considering:
Final Fantasy IV DS-looks captivating, never played 4 before, not sure how it fits with emotionally captivating.
Final Fantasy III DS-same deal
Golden Sun, possibly?
Read Lord of the Rings again, last time I read it was in the 6th grade, and I didn't understand it all that much.

To sum it up, looking for a captivating and emotional, fantasy-type story, in any form, that I can get sucked into. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    There Will Be Blood is an excellent epic style movie, but not fantasy. Knights of the Old Republic is very, very good if you haven't played any of them. The two newest Elder Scrolls games, Morrowind and Oblivion are both very long and epic. I'm not a fan of JRPGs so I can't suggest any of that.

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    isaac17isaac17 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Already played a lot of/beaten morrowind recently, although it's very close to what I'm looking for, KOTOR's battle sucked so bad I couldn't enjoy the story/quit early on. I bought oblivion a few weeks ago but haven't had the time to play it, but I'm looking for something a little more portable. TWBB got an 8.4 on IMDB, so I'll have to give that a go sometime, though still not quite what I'm searching for.

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    LerageLerage Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you've played Final Fantasy VII before, you could try Crisis Core for the PSP. It has a really good story, and gets quite intense towards the end.

    I've played FFIII for the DS - it's all about level grinding, there's very little story, talking or character development, so you might want to steer clear. I can't say much about FFIV - I played a bit of the original and it seemed more...involved, so if you're set on getting a DS, it could be worth a try.

    If you're deciding between DS and PSP, I would suggest PSP for the sort of style you're wanting - a lot of games have voice acting, which can straight away make it more involving.

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    isaac17isaac17 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Lerage wrote: »
    If you've played Final Fantasy VII before, you could try Crisis Core for the PSP. It has a really good story, and gets quite intense towards the end.

    I've played FFIII for the DS - it's all about level grinding, there's very little story, talking or character development, so you might want to steer clear. I can't say much about FFIV - I played a bit of the original and it seemed more...involved, so if you're set on getting a DS, it could be worth a try.

    If you're deciding between DS and PSP, I would suggest PSP for the sort of style you're wanting - a lot of games have voice acting, which can straight away make it more involving.

    Alright, that kinda confirms what I've been hearing about III. I played VII, and looked up crisis core earlier today, but it just didn't look like the giant-pull-you-in-world that I really want, though it did look way cool. I couldn't find any RPGs on the PSP that looked like what I'm looking for, but I'm open to suggestions. They seemed to all be strategy or action RPGs. I'm not set on getting a DS per say, I just liked what I was seeing of FF IV, DQ IV, and Chrono Trigger coming soon.

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    LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Have you played Planescape Torment? If not, that would be my first recommendation.

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    SunkenSunken Registered User new member
    edited July 2008
    isaac17 wrote: »
    Read Lord of the Rings again, last time I read it was in the 6th grade, and I didn't understand it all that much.

    If you're looking for an epic fantasy series to get sucked into, you can't go wrong with A Song of Ice and Fire.

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    isaac17isaac17 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Sunken wrote: »
    isaac17 wrote: »
    Read Lord of the Rings again, last time I read it was in the 6th grade, and I didn't understand it all that much.

    If you're looking for an epic fantasy series to get sucked into, you can't go wrong with A Song of Ice and Fire.

    I LOVED a Game of Thrones, but half way into the second book, I couldn't take the graphic sex and violence, and put the book down (just a few months ago, actually).

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    space_satanspace_satan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    If you want to read something completely epic, read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. 7 books made of pure epic.

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    ComahawkComahawk Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm watching Eureka Seven right now and it is pretty awesome.

    Not sure if you're into anime at all, but if you are you may want to check it out.

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    DaemonionDaemonion Mountain Man USARegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Movies:

    Batman Begins
    Braveheart
    Gladiator
    The Patriot
    Saving Private Ryan
    Lawrence of Arabia
    Ben Hur
    Lord of the Rings Trilogy


    Games:
    Mass Effect
    Oblivion (see mods)
    Max Payne series (maybe, depends on taste)
    Call of Duty 1, 2, 4 + expansions

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    DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you do like anime (or don't hate it at least), Grave of the Fireflies, while not epic, WILL make you cry.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Epic games? Half-Life 2 and the episodes?

    Want to cry? Go see WALL-E.

    Though truth be told, asking for things that might evoke a strong emotional response is really just setting yourself up to be prepared for it. I saw WALL-E at release with very little information ahead of time, and was woefully unprepared for the reaction I had to it.

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    ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Read the A Song of Ice and Fire series. It's not finished yet, but it's already an epic rollercoaster.

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    UnknownSaintUnknownSaint Kasyn Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you want something that will make you cry and is also a little epic, read The Road.

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    TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It's not fantasy but it's definitely epic and emotionally compelling, but if you haven't already watched it you should check out the HBO miniseries Band of Brothers.

    Otherwise I'd second all the other opinions here in picking up one of the Bioware/Black Isle RPGs like KotOR or Baldur's Gate II.

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    BetelguesePDXBetelguesePDX Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I don't know if it is epic, but certainly a classic and guarenteed to make anyone with a heart cry: The kite runner (the movie). The book is great too but the movie is just stunningly beautiful and well made.

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    D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Read "Shogun" by James Clavell, if you're interested in Feudal Japan, Samurai, and all that jazz.

    It's about a Dutch trade ship with an English captain that gets shipwrecked in Japan. All the men on the ship are taken prisoner, and the ship's captain - along with the weaponry on the ship - ends up being used as leverage by a Daimyo looking to become the next Shogun.

    It's long, but it's so engrossing that I was reading 200 pages in a sitting. It's incredibly epic; there's lots of great battles, struggles for power, lots of backstabbing and political intrigue, you'll learn a little bit about Japan, and there's a beautiful love story as well.

    Can't recommend it enough to satisfy your craving.

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    MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Princess Mononoke seems to fit the bill. It's an anime movie by Studio Ghibli. Most rental stores have it in their small anime section, or you can buy it off amazon for around $20.

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    Chop LogicChop Logic Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Djiem wrote: »
    If you do like anime (or don't hate it at least), Grave of the Fireflies, while not epic, WILL make you cry.

    I hate anime and this movie still made me cry.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Another recommendation for Planescape: Torment.

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    Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The following books make me cry every time I read them.

    By Guy Gavriel Kay:
    Tigana
    The Fionavar Tapestry (a trilogy containing The Summer Tree, The Wandering Fire, and The Darkest Road)
    The Lions of Al-Rassan

    By Steven Erikson:
    Deadhouse Gates
    Memories of Ice

    Both authors should give you what you're looking for. Kay writes lyrical, beautifully-crafted fantasy based (with varying degrees of closeness) on historical events. Tigana's setting is very loosely rooted in the Italian city-states of the medieval age; The Lions of Al-Rassan is a retelling of the Reconquista, the great series of battles between the Christians and the Moors in Spain. Most of his books are standalone works, with the exception of The Fionavar Tapestry and The Sarantine Mosaic, but several of them are set in the same semi-historical world, and you can catch some little references between them. Kay actually helped to edit The Silmarillion by Tolkien, which most people seem to have forgotten.

    Erikson, on the other hand, is more traditional fantasy. He has incredible world-building powers - most fantasy stories are rooted in the shallow present, with the occasional reference to some epic event a thousand years ago, but the history of Erikson world goes back hundreds of thousands of years, and it's all relevant. It is as epic as Gilgamesh, Achilles, King Arthur, and El Cid fighting each other in the Thunderdome to decide the fate of the free world. The only downside is, his books are a series, and the first book in the series - Gardens of the Moon - can be pretty tough to get through for some readers. It was written about ten years before he started on the other books, so his writing style isn't quite as solid. And he pretty much just drops you into the world and lets you figure things out for yourself, which is tricky to do when you're immediately faced with a cast of about 100 characters, including mortals of various species, ancient tyrants, gods, ascendants, and Kruppe.

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    Cowboy BebopCowboy Bebop Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I thought the Korean film 'Old Boy' was a pretty awesome film when it came out. As for games Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater is an amazing game that plays almost like a film, the same can be said for Mass Effect as well.

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    WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Watch Cloverfield.

    'tis epic.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2008
    Phantom Dust.

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    ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Hero, a Jet Li movie, really got to me the first time I saw it. It's confusing at first, but it all comes together smoothly and the ending is beautiful.

    300. Ignore the brutal, stylized action (though it is a lot of fun), and focus on the story. The ending really hit me, and in my mind, the word epic really comes to mind.

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    mullymully Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Children of Men would be my immediate, urged suggestion. I am not a very emotional person when it comes to media but this movie blew me away.

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    eric.eric. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    Read Dune.

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    George Fornby GrillGeorge Fornby Grill ...Like Clockwork Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Defintely seconding Grave of the Fireflies for a movie. You will cry.
    And also the Half Life series. You don't have to play 1, but HL2+Episodes 1 and 2 are pretty intense. The end of episode 2 is a really emotional experience, as far as games go.

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    RainbulimicRainbulimic Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    While it's not fantasy, The Shadow of The Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón is an amazing book that had me in tears at several parts. It's also a very intriguing story.
    Might not be your thing (I'm a big fantasy fan too, was surprised I loved this as much as I did), but give it a bit of a read to see if it catches you.

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    WiseguyWiseguy __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    I third Planescape: Torment.

    If you don't feel like unloading tons of bucks for the game, you can actually find a word format of it online - it pieces the story of the game, which is undeniably the best part, together with great fluidity and makes a great, emotional read.

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    TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    It's also on Gametap for 99 cents for the first month.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Another for Planescape Torment. I think it's on Gametap btw. It is hands down the most beautifully written game ever made.

    I'll also second George R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones and it's sequels. Excellent books.

    Edit : Ahh ty TC

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2008
    I tried to play planescape torment, but my eyes bled too much. Is there a version of the game where the graphics don't cause retinal damage?

    Also I highly suggest reading The Silmarilion if you are into LoTR. Its pretty much like The Bible but way cooler deities.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Pfft crybaby. :p

    Actually there is a widesreen mod I believe.

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    LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Shamus wrote: »
    Hero, a Jet Li movie, really got to me the first time I saw it. It's confusing at first, but it all comes together smoothly and the ending is beautiful.

    Shamus speaks the truth. At least, he speaks the truth about Hero. I thought 300 was garbage, but I'm well aware I'm close to alone in that opinion.

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    CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you want to read something completely epic, read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. 7 books made of pure epic.


    This. This is a great series of books, guaranteed to suck you in. I'm gonna have to dig mine out and read it again.

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    SueveSueve Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    oooooh i like this thread.

    Master and Commander- The sea voyage movie is epppppppppiccccccccccc

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    INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If you want to read something completely epic, read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. 7 books made of pure epic.

    Definitely epic, and The Dark Tower is probably the only book that has evoked such a strong emotion from me that I simply could not continue reading it (for about a week, I mean, I finished it, but goddamn.)

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    Chake99Chake99 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Children of Hurin by J.R.R. Tolkien is pretty fucking epic.

    It was published only a few years ago, but it is composed wholly of Tolkien's assembled notes, and it is an incredibly epic tragedy. The language, etc, may be a bit much (much thicker and old english-y than lord of the rings) but it is definitely worth a read.

    the maturity and epicness in Tolkien's work goes

    The Hobbit --> LotR --> Silmarillion/Children of Hurin

    Children of Hurin shares a lot of material with both the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales, but I'd definitely recommend CoH first. It's the most polished and novel-ly.

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    FembotFembot Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    The following books make me cry every time I read them.

    By Guy Gavriel Kay:
    Tigana
    The Fionavar Tapestry (a trilogy containing The Summer Tree, The Wandering Fire, and The Darkest Road)
    The Lions of Al-Rassan

    I cannot lime this enough. All of the Kay books are excellent, and these are great ones to start with. Even though I've read them all many times, they still get to me - and my husband re-reads The Lions of Al-Rassan about once a year (it's his all-time favorite book). Kay's style of writing is so incredible that I just wish I could eat it or make love to it, or something.

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